Drowning in the bath

[SadGirl32]

Do you think that this method would be reliable - to overdose quetiapine and to sleep in the bath?
I am not sure how much I would be conscious and suffering.

 

[Samsal112]

This is the way I was planning on ctb, but I am not sure how reliable it is. I was going to overdose on benzos though. My reasoning for choosing it is that drowning is a guaranteed death. Benzos will help me pass out so I don't have to actually feel the drowning by losing oxygen. A bathtub because I don't have access to a pool or lake. Also, I think I would like to go in a familiar place and not some random lake. But, someone here who has done a lot of research says that your face may float up to the top and prevent a drowning.

Do you mind sharing why this is your chosen method?

 

[Crazy4u]

it is a tricky method. I don't know anyone who ctbed that way

 

[waitingforrest]

I think the hardest part of that method is keeping your head under water and not being found.

 

[Ta555]

You can but it would require a lot of planning. It's not just like taking a bunch of pills and lying back peacefully. You're not very likely to just automatically sink to the bottom. You might just end up having a very long sleep in the bath. There are bathtub suicides reported in the literature and most of them involve meds like benzos and some include weights. You would have to ensure your face goes below the waterline once passed out and stays there long enough. This is hard to do without weights or restraining yourself.

 

[Arrow]

Could work if there was something holding you down maybe. If you just fell asleep in the bath you could resurface which would be problematic. and also drowning is pretty painful.

 

[Circles]

There was a megathread called Shallow water blackout, but it got locked due to the fact that people became aware that it was too risky and may end up in a vegetative state instead of dying, though some people back then still believed it could work.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/shallow-water-blackout.4315/

 

[Ta555]

There was a megathread called Shallow water blackout, but it got locked due to the fact that people became aware that it was too risky and may end up in a vegetative state instead of dying, though some people back then still believed it could work.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/shallow-water-blackout.4315/

Any method can leave you in a vegetative state so what's the point of just locking this thread? Sorry, not directed at your personally it just sounds strange.

 

[Circles]

Any method can leave you in a vegetative state so what's the point of just locking this thread? Sorry, not directed at your personally it just sounds strange.

Cause some methods can have a higher likelihood of failure and chance of a vegetative state and this is one of them in my opinion. There's too many variables where your body or head is going to float back to the surface while unconscious. In my opinion if you're going to do drowning then then go somewhere that's deep instead of a bathtub.

 

[summers]

Do you think that this method would be reliable - to overdose quetiapine and to sleep in the bath?
I am not sure how much I would be conscious and suffering.

No, not reliable at all. Drowning is one of the most si-inducing methods. Not peaceful in the slightest. Please consider a different option.

Also, please don't try to ctb in your house if you live with other people. Not sure if this is the case, but it seems like it could be. As others mentioned, if you try this, and make some noise unconsciously, they will try to resuscitate you, and you could have permanent brain damage from oxygen deprivation.

 

[Ta555]

Cause some methods can have a higher likelihood of failure and chance of a vegetative state and this is one of them in my opinion. There's too many variables where your body or head is going to float back to the surface while unconscious. In my opinion if you're going to do drowning then then go somewhere that's deep instead of a bathtub.

Some of us don't have access to anywhere bigger . Also this is why you eliminate variables with weights, restraints and sedatives.

No, not reliable at all. Drowning is one of the most si-inducing methods. Not peaceful in the slightest. Please consider a different option.

Also, please don't try to ctb in your house if you live with other people. Not sure if this is the case, but it seems like it could be. As others mentioned, if you try this, and make some noise unconsciously, they will try to resuscitate you, and you could have permanent brain damage from oxygen deprivation.

I wouldn't say it's not reliable at all. Just attempting to hold your head under water until you pass out is unreliable. Adding restraints, weights and sedatives makes it more reliable. It's like saying hanging is unreliable but it all depends on HOW you do it eg good rope, correct knot good anchor point etc. If you don't know what you're doing even hanging will go wrong. Same with drowning. For me it's the most accessible method along with full suspension. But full suspension is really painful and you can break the delicate bones in the front of your neck.
Also any method can leave you with permanent brain damage if you're found early or don't execute the method properly so drowning is not unique in this. At least with drowning you're either above the water and can breathe or below and you can't. It seems you're either living or dying. With hanging you might only compress your arteries partially and then not enough oxygen is getting into your brain even though you don't die. That's a danger with partial. With drowning you might get brain damage and then float up to the surface and not die sure, but with a weight you can make sure you stay down.

 

[summers]

@Ta555 I'm not saying drowning itself is unreliable, just doing it in the bathtub is. I'm sure it's pretty much 100% if you go into a body of water deeper than you are tall with some kind of weight vest on. The bathtub is equivalent to trying to hold your head in a bucket of water until you die.

 

[UpandDownPrincess]

I don't think quetiapine is a great choice here.

It can be overdosed in massive amounts without ill effects and it has been found that for many people, the more you take, the less sedating it becomes.

 

[Ta555]

@Ta555 I'm not saying drowning itself is unreliable, just doing it in the bathtub is. I'm sure it's pretty much 100% if you go into a body of water deeper than you are tall with some kind of weight vest on. The bathtub is equivalent to trying to hold your head in a bucket of water until you die.

I respectfully disagree. I think it's possible with weights and has been documented in the literature but it sure requires a lot of thorough planning.

 

[summers]

I respectfully disagree. I think it's possible with weights and has been documented in the literature but it sure requires a lot of thorough planning.

Fair enough. I think the size/shape of the bathtub, and height of the person would have a big impact on the success as well.

Still think there are many, many other methods that are easier and more peaceful.

I don't think quetiapine is a great choice here.

It can be overdosed in massive amounts without ill effects and it has been found that for many people, the more you take, the less sedating it becomes.

What about just od-ing on H, and skipping the water altogether.

 

[Ta555]

Fair enough. I think the size/shape of the bathtub, and height of the person would have a big impact on the success as well.

Still think there are many, many other methods that are easier and more peaceful.

Yes for sure, a 6ft fit athlete is gonna have a problem. For a smaller/average sized person it's easier but requires weights to make sure they stay down. Elevating feet helps too. Also it could be at least semi-peaceful if enough sedatives are ingested. I wouldn't try it without at least a bunch of benzos. Probably painkillers and alcohol too.

 

[_Minsk]

I agree with UpandDownPrincess. I doubt quetiapine will be enough to keep you unconscious.

 

[motel rooms]

Cause some methods can have a higher likelihood of failure and chance of a vegetative state and this is one of them in my opinion.

No, shallow-water blackout is not one of them, unless you're a moron who attempts to die by SWB in a public swimming pool. Also, I really wish people would stop confusing SWB with ordinary painful drowning, especially in a damn bathtub. If you achieve cerebral hypoxia & pass out with your face underwater, you can't regain consciousness. How do you make your brain hypoxic? Well, visit this site & purposely do what people of all ages & levels of fitness who died from SWB did: https://www.shallowwaterblackoutprevention.org/how-it-happens You just have to be able to swim, repeatedly hold your breath as long as you can & find a body of water where no nosy fools can interfere with your plan.

There's no mention of any thrashing about in any of the stories & videos on http://www.shallowwaterblackoutprevention.org/
This type of death comes silently & quickly. Irreparable brain damage occurs within a couple of minutes.
The people in your video experienced convulsions because they didn't stop breathing/inhaling oxygen. When you pass out from cerebral hypoxia with your face underwater, you can no longer raise your oxygen levels & regain consciousness. Your lungs fill with water & you don't even feel it because your brain is so deprived of oxygen it can't register pain.

Here's "Chandler's story" from http://www.shallowwaterblackoutprevention.org/

Myself, my dad and Chandler were swimming in the resort pool, playing the familiar game of seeing how far we could swim from one end of the pool to the other without taking a breath. Mom, Addi (older sister) and Erin (Chandler's wife) were watching from their pool chairs. Chan said he could go from one end to the other without taking a breath. Understand, this is a game we play all the time so nothing seemed out of the ordinary. Chan grabbed scuba goggles and was off underwater. And he did it, going from pool end to pool end without a breath.

After Chan touched the wall, he stayed underwater, sitting at the bottom. My dad and I saw bubbles at the surface and thought that he was just seeing how much longer he could last holding his breath. My mother was visibly worried and upset (thank God for "mother's intuition"); and started saying, "Someone needs to get him up now!" Dad and I insisted he was fine, as we saw bubbles come to the surface of the pool. About 20 seconds passed and finally, Dad went to pull Chandler up and instantly knew something was wrong. He was limp and lifeless and the second my dad lifted him up, we saw his grey skin and blue lips. Chandler's heart had stopped.

My dad immediately started mouth to mouth in the pool as we carried his lifeless body to the stairs. Mom screamed for help and Erin and Addi got up in shock. Once we got to the stairs, there was a man who let us know he was an ICU doctor. He immediately started chest compressions on Chandler, yelling out that he didn't have a pulse. In the midst of all this happening, another doctor came over and assisted. Between the compressions and mouth to mouth, they pumped and worked on him for what felt like a lifetime. I cannot put into words how traumatic this was to witness. This went on for five minutes, Chandler's body not responding with no heartbeat, no pulse.

Everyone was doing everything they could as we waited for paramedics to come. After the long minutes of CPR, the doctors placed the defibrillators on his chest to begin use. Just before using the defibrillator the two doctors yelled out they had a pulse.

Immediately after Chandler came back to us, he was ferried off the island by the medics and taken to a local hospital. The doctors at the hospital then monitored him for six hours. They told us that Chandler was a victim of something called "shallow-water drowning" or "shallow-water blackout." The prolonged lack of oxygen caused his brain to shut down without warning, and he went into immediate cardiac arrest.

We had never heard of shallow-water drowning. The fatality rate of this kind of incident is over 90% because there are simply no signs of distress and nobody notices that the person has passed out. This specific type of drowning kills 4x faster than normal drowning. As you hold your breath for long periods of time you are not in pain or distress and it plays a trick on the mind. The effect is immediate when your lungs reach their limit.

When we hold our breath, oxygen levels in the bloodstream decrease. Usually the carbon dioxide rises in our body to a certain degree, telling us we need to breathe. But when you continuously and deliberately hold your breath, it keeps the carbon dioxide levels in the body extremely low, blocking the brain's signal to breathe. To put it simply, you black out before you realize what is happening. Chandler does not remember anything about the incident.

 

[summers]

No, shallow-water blackout is not one of them, unless you're a moron who attempts to die by SWB in a public swimming pool. Also, I really wish people would stop confusing SWB with ordinary painful drowning, especially in a damn bathtub. If you achieve cerebral hypoxia & pass out with your face underwater, you can't regain consciousness. How do you make your brain hypoxic? Well, visit this site & purposely do what people of all ages & levels of fitness who died from SWB did: https://www.shallowwaterblackoutprevention.org/how-it-happens You just have to be able to swim, repeatedly hold your breath as long as you can & find a body of water where no nosy fools can interfere with your plan.

That's fine in theory, but all I'm saying is that a gram of H, spoon, lighter, and syringe sounds a lot easier and more peaceful. You can light some candles, lay down on your bed, put on some music you like, and just fall asleep.

 

[Foresight]

Some of us can't get a gram of h

The difficulty of suicide is obnoxious.

 

[Ta555]

Some of us can't get a gram of h

The difficulty of suicide is obnoxious.

If I could get even one good dose of a strong painkiller I would've already hanged myself. So I hear you.

 

[motel rooms]

That's fine in theory, but all I'm saying is that a gram of H, spoon, lighter, and syringe sounds a lot easier and more peaceful. You can light some candles, lay down on your bed, put on some music you like, and just fall asleep.

That's also fine in theory. I'm not too lazy to do some swimming & simple breath-hold diving.

 

[SadGirl32]

I am living alone. At night when I am alone my friends will not contact with me, I don't have family, no one.
I would prefer to die in a peaceful way. I know that overdosing meds is not a good choice this is why I wanted to choice connect it with drowning while sleeping.
I tried partial hanging however it was to difficult for me to overcome SI.
But my s.thoughts are really serious. My husband has left me because of my borderline. I lost everything I had. I am in a huge crisis since 3 weeks. I can't stand my reality anymore.
I am suicidal since 15 years. I am in therapy, I take meds. But this does not help me enough to want live.

 

[summers]

I am living alone. At night when I am alone my friends will not contact with me, I don't have family, no one.
I would prefer to die in a peaceful way. I know that overdosing meds is not a good choice this is why I wanted to choice connect it with drowning while sleeping.
I tried partial hanging however it was to difficult for me to overcome SI.
But my s.thoughts are really serious. My husband has left me because of my borderline. I lost everything I had. I am in a huge crisis since 3 weeks. I can't stand my reality anymore.
I am suicidal since 15 years. I am in therapy, I take meds. But this does not help me enough to want live.

It sounds like you're in a state of crisis - but please keep in mind, your husband was not all you had. Never give that much power to another person. He left - fuck him.

 

[Ta555]

I am living alone. At night when I am alone my friends will not contact with me, I don't have family, no one.
I would prefer to die in a peaceful way. I know that overdosing meds is not a good choice this is why I wanted to choice connect it with drowning while sleeping.
I tried partial hanging however it was to difficult for me to overcome SI.
But my s.thoughts are really serious. My husband has left me because of my borderline. I lost everything I had. I am in a huge crisis since 3 weeks. I can't stand my reality anymore.
I am suicidal since 15 years. I am in therapy, I take meds. But this does not help me enough to want live.

I'm sorry you're going through this. I hope you can overcome it. Please think about this method carefully if you choose to CTB. It is not that simple to pull off and requires testing and planning. Please don't do anything impulsive. Sending you well wishes.

 

[kerchbabylon]

This is an interesting method because I was thinking of drowning in a lake with some weights (I have a pretty big lake near me) and disguise the weight in my backpack. The only problem is that I heard once you drown your reflexes kick in and then try to basically flow upward. I nearly drowned as a child…And let me just say the reflexes kicked in. But now I am thinking if you have some weights and some kind of rope around the neck and then fill the bathtub with water and take some sleeping pills and alcohol while you lock the bathroom door when no one is there it might be successful? Thoughts?

 

[SadGirl32]

This is an interesting method because I was thinking of drowning in a lake with some weights (I have a pretty big lake near me) and disguise the weight in my backpack. The only problem is that I heard once you drown your reflexes kick in and then try to basically flow upward. I nearly drowned as a child…And let me just say the reflexes kicked in. But now I am thinking if you have some weights and some kind of rope around the neck and then fill the bathtub with water and take some sleeping pills and alcohol while you lock the bathroom door when no one is there it might be successful? Thoughts?

However this process of drowning is painful. I am not sure if I could be sleepy enough to avoid the suffering.

 

[Ta555]

This is an interesting method because I was thinking of drowning in a lake with some weights (I have a pretty big lake near me) and disguise the weight in my backpack. The only problem is that I heard once you drown your reflexes kick in and then try to basically flow upward. I nearly drowned as a child…And let me just say the reflexes kicked in. But now I am thinking if you have some weights and some kind of rope around the neck and then fill the bathtub with water and take some sleeping pills and alcohol while you lock the bathroom door when no one is there it might be successful? Thoughts?

This is one of my plans exactly except benzos instead of sleeping pills. The only thing I am worried about is if you start to thrash around and spill water out of the bath. I don't think you'd spill a lot but the thought still worries me.

 

[kerchbabylon]

I understand hence why I have been testing how to get rid of my reflexes. I have a leather belt from Walmart and 35 kg pound weight and alcohol and some Advil. I do not have prescriptions for benzodiazepines so I am wondering if tylenol or Advil do the trick for the pain….the only thing is that To get rid of the fear and to make sure no one is there. Once you start to get sleepy and tired that's the signal one needs to get the belt and/or rope ready and lock the door and just lay there…..

 

[Ta555]

I understand hence why I have been testing how to get rid of my reflexes. I have a leather belt from Walmart and 35 kg pound weight and alcohol and some Advil. I do not have prescriptions for benzodiazepines so I am wondering if tylenol or Advil do the trick for the pain….the only thing is that To get rid of the fear and to make sure no one is there. Once you start to get sleepy and tired that's the signal one needs to get the belt and/or rope ready and lock the door and just lay there…..

Hmm, I'm interested in your set up in more detail. Can we pm?