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spanishguy22

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Do you guys think it's a good idea?
I thought of drinking a ton of butanediol in the middle of the ocean, after taking a inflatable raft. Drink it and jump out.
My dear is that I'll feel me drowning despite taking it. Does butanediol work fast enough to knock you out quick?
 
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an inflatable raft into the middle of the deepest darkest ocean........jesus christ!!!!
 
purplemoon

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Please don't use the ocean... seriously, it has so many SHARKS that could eat you alive and rip off your arms and such.

Just saying... wish you the best but at least if it were me... not the ocean full of creepy critters in the dark?
 
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I'm worried about you. This seems like a situation that has many possibilities of being painful. I'm not recommending it but it's just as easy to do painful in the comfort of home.
 
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I'm worried about you. This seems like a situation that has many possibilities of being painful. I'm not recommending it but it's just as easy to do painful in the comfort of home.
Yeah its a post from months ago i dont like this idea now lol
 
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Exactly, please don't risk Shark attacks and bites, talk about way too nightmarish.
 
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It doesn't come on instantly, and isn't that strong a painkiller until long after you'd be dead by natural drowning. You'll be struggling desperately to stay above water as you fight against sleepiness, and will probably drown before you are unconscious enough to not feel the panic and pain. Alcohol even has NMDA antagonist activity and is a more effective painkiller at sub-coma doses, but both options have the same drawbacks - too slow, not injectable. Even N probably wouldn't hit you quickly enough to not have at least a few minutes of experiencing your drowning, and at that point in its onset, it wouldn't be much of a painkiller either.

If your goal is to drown without feeling it, then your only real option is to use something injectable, because that is the only almost instant way of taking drugs. I don't think 1,4BD is suitable for injection, and it requires a dose so large that drinking it is the only viable way. 1000mg of ketamine though, should eliminate the pain factor, and could be combined with heroin for extra pain relief/sleep, and any benzo, like 100mg diazepam, to keep you calm and asleep, and all of that would fit in a small syringe. That's the only way I can imagine a "sea death" being anything less than horrific.
 
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:wink: Thank you Dysphoria... You know, i've occasionally wondered about the Horse... but I'm too frightened of getting in trouble... so never did or would venture there. I can't even handle life outside a cage, too terrified to risk it.

I read they made a derivative of ketamine for depression (if only it were that easy) but is the kind of ketamine you're referring to umm... available in stores? or a prescription?
 
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spanishguy22

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Exactly, please don't risk Shark attacks and bites, talk about way too nightmarish.
I dont think its be likely at all though hehe. At least in spanish waters. Id still be scared now that you mentioned it tho
It doesn't come on instantly, and isn't that strong a painkiller until long after you'd be dead by natural drowning. You'll be struggling desperately to stay above water as you fight against sleepiness, and will probably drown before you are unconscious enough to not feel the panic and pain. Alcohol even has NMDA antagonist activity and is a more effective painkiller at sub-coma doses, but both options have the same drawbacks - too slow, not injectable. Even N probably wouldn't hit you quickly enough to not have at least a few minutes of experiencing your drowning, and at that point in its onset, it wouldn't be much of a painkiller either.

If your goal is to drown without feeling it, then your only real option is to use something injectable, because that is the only almost instant way of taking drugs. I don't think 1,4BD is suitable for injection, and it requires a dose so large that drinking it is the only viable way. 1000mg of ketamine though, should eliminate the pain factor, and could be combined with heroin for extra pain relief/sleep, and any benzo, like 100mg diazepam, to keep you calm and asleep, and all of that would fit in a small syringe. That's the only way I can imagine a "sea death" being anything less than horrific.

Great post thank you.
 
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:wink: Thank you Dysphoria... You know, i've occasionally wondered about the Horse... but I'm too frightened of getting in trouble... so never did or would venture there. I can't even handle life outside a cage, too terrified to risk it.

I read they made a derivative of ketamine for depression (if only it were that easy) but is the kind of ketamine you're referring to umm... available in stores? or a prescription?

There are some clinics charging people ridiculous, extortionate amounts for ketamine infusions, and naturally, pharmaceutical companies are looking for new patents on something old. A gram only costs $20 on the black market, and less in wholesale, and typical recreational doses are 100mg-200mg, so compared to opioids it's really quite cheap and domestic shipping eliminates any risk. As for being available in stores - afraid not, haha. Even most street drug dealers would be confused if you asked about it. Wouldn't personally rate it as an antidepressant, as like any drug there is a comedown, and your brain operates counter to the temporary relief, and it has the added problem of destroying your bladder and kidneys if used too often, which is a distinct possibility as it is addictive, particularly to people who feel they have nothing to lose. Google "ketamine bladder syndrome" and the stories are pretty grim... With that said, it is my favourite drug and one of the few things to offer temporary relief from depression, followed by even more crippling depression.
 
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I dont think its be likely at all though hehe. At least in spanish waters. Id still be scared now that you mentioned it tho


Great post thank you.

Exactly!! There could be all sorts of critters munching on your feet as you're trying to have a final moment!!
 
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It doesn't come on instantly, and isn't that strong a painkiller until long after you'd be dead by natural drowning. You'll be struggling desperately to stay above water as you fight against sleepiness, and will probably drown before you are unconscious enough to not feel the panic and pain. Alcohol even has NMDA antagonist activity and is a more effective painkiller at sub-coma doses, but both options have the same drawbacks - too slow, not injectable. Even N probably wouldn't hit you quickly enough to not have at least a few minutes of experiencing your drowning, and at that point in its onset, it wouldn't be much of a painkiller either.

If your goal is to drown without feeling it, then your only real option is to use something injectable, because that is the only almost instant way of taking drugs. I don't think 1,4BD is suitable for injection, and it requires a dose so large that drinking it is the only viable way. 1000mg of ketamine though, should eliminate the pain factor, and could be combined with heroin for extra pain relief/sleep, and any benzo, like 100mg diazepam, to keep you calm and asleep, and all of that would fit in a small syringe. That's the only way I can imagine a "sea death" being anything less than horrific.

Hi, @dysphoria. First ever post. Thanks for this. My goal is to take a dose that will get me to pass out while in the water and to sink into the water. Time won't really be an issue. I'd like to avoid a high enough dose that it shows up on autopsy. Any input on that? I've read plenty over the last week about how difficult it is to show in an autopsy, but GHB certainly does.