Xaphous

Xaphous

hikikomori
Nov 11, 2018
550
What would make you think you were not welcome?

I think people use the site for a whole spectrum of reasons. Some just to get clarification on a method, others to bounce ideas around with people, safe in the knowledge they don't have to over-explain or worry about not making sense due to brain fog because people will understand.

Some have depression or suicidal feelings that wax and wane so they can be up one minute and down the next, which is where I think the 'off-topic' section is good. It's a sort of low key area for slightly 'better' moments, maybe, where 'better' might be being that you still can't leave your house or interact irl as anxiety is out of control. Or it may be the middle of the night for some users who can't sleep. I don't see why users can't use a forum for fun if that makes them feel better about ctb in the same way that discussion of suicide makes others feel better. I don't know why people would want to feel judgemental of other depressed people?

Thank you a lot it means a lot that someone responded like you did, the isolating is eating away at me so heavily that I automatically assume everyone is against me. In real life I think it is true though even more because usually they are.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Jan 1, 2019
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Thank you a lot it means a lot that someone responded like you did, the isolating is eating away at me so heavily that I automatically assume everyone is against me. In real life I think it is true though even more because usually they are.

You can always send me a message if you want someone to chat to, don't feel all alone. That is one of the grim things about depression - the ways it is isolating, and it makes you want to isolate yourself more because it's hard for people in real life to understand. And when you want to ctb you naturally push people away even more as it's easier than trying to deal with their feelings projected on you.

I think thinking people are against you is also a symptom too. Sometimes it's triggered by life events when it happens for real then we put up invisible barriers almost because we expect it to happen again. X
 
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JustAboutDone

Illuminated
Jan 1, 2019
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I can't lie that some posters I've seen on here (only 2 or 3) appear to just be show off attention seekers in my opinion, it's not cool when people are here as they are truly in such hell that they want to kill themselves and others are using this site to get attention to gratify there ego's, go do that shit on another forum, depression, disabilities, anxiety, intense suffering, diseases etc ain't no fuckin joke.

It's the same irl life though - the person you see laughing and joking the most is often the person in a coffin tomorrow. People suffer in different ways.

A very sweet person recently departed this site. They were eternally grateful to have this place for lighthearted laughs and giggles at the end of their life as everything irl for them was so serious, here was the only place they could joke about death and not be judged.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Jan 1, 2019
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Came here to research methods when I was actively suicidal..
Now I know about the means to end it but not ready to go through, still I think about suicide all day long so I end here every time because there are not many places where I can openly share my desire to die.
Sorry if that's wrong.

I don't think there is any right or wrong way to use the site and don't ever think otherwise xx
the more people here the better as the more chance that someone will have experience of what you are going through and can offer support or advice on a method - or even just a cyber hand to hold if you need one without you having to explain every tiny detail.
 
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Johnnythefox

Johnnythefox

Que sera sera
Nov 11, 2018
3,129
Yes there are unscrupulous users here. Some who gawk at us or maybe some psychologists who come here out of curiosity.
There is one user I know of who admits to not being suicidal and says that he finds what suicidal people have to say interesting.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Jan 1, 2019
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There is one user I know of who admits to not being suicidal and says that he finds what suicidal people have to say interesting.

Well I guess that's quite open! And should they become suicidal in the future I guess they will be prepared a bit
 
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odette

odette

Student
Feb 5, 2019
149
So does it bother people if someone is here who doesn't really want to commit suicide? If someone thinks they probably have to kill themselves, but is still trying to find another way so they can keep living? Does that cause a bother for people here?
 
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Kikoo Loool

Kikoo Loool

Enlightened
Feb 25, 2019
1,128
So does it bother people if someone is here who doesn't really want to commit suicide? If someone thinks they probably have to kill themselves, but is still trying to find another way so they can keep living? Does that cause a bother for people here?

Of course not!
 
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Didymus

Didymus

Clutching at invisible straws
Dec 11, 2018
348
I can't lie that some posters I've seen on here (only 2 or 3) appear to just be show off attention seekers in my opinion, it's not cool when people are here as they are truly in such hell that they want to kill themselves and others are using this site to get attention to gratify there ego's, go do that shit on another forum, depression, disabilities, anxiety, intense suffering, diseases etc ain't no fuckin joke.

If it's only a few for you, you can use the ignore option.
 
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odette

odette

Student
Feb 5, 2019
149
Of course not!
I don't know, I guess I am looking for attention or using this place as a suicidal facebook. I came here looking for methods, but I'm also whining about my problems and it's an enormous help to me when forum members respond with compassion. But if people find that annoying or feel like this isn't the right place for it, then I don't want to be bothering anyone.
 
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Kikoo Loool

Kikoo Loool

Enlightened
Feb 25, 2019
1,128
I don't know, I guess I am looking for attention or using this place as a suicidal facebook. I came here looking for methods, but I'm also whining about my problems and it's an enormous help to me when forum members respond with compassion. But if people find that annoying or feel like this isn't the right place for it, then I don't want to be bothering anyone.

You won't bother anyone.
 
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Redt2go

Redt2go

flower child
Jan 5, 2019
1,643
Why does the entire forum have to be negative and depressing. Say a depressed suicidal person comes here to vent a bit but also to get a pick me up from the flowers thread or from a fellow member. If it was only about death and dying it'd be kind of boring because the whole thing would be hanging questions over and over. Who's to say that's not a coping mechanism for whatever the poster is going through that they don't always feel the need to share their whole life with everyone in the forum... Why does there have to be a proper way to use the site? Just ignore people who bother you??
 
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JustAboutDone

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Jan 1, 2019
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I don't know, I guess I am looking for attention or using this place as a suicidal facebook. I came here looking for methods, but I'm also whining about my problems and it's an enormous help to me when forum members respond with compassion. But if people find that annoying or feel like this isn't the right place for it, then I don't want to be bothering anyone.

You're not bothering anyone x
People can choose to customise the site to how they want it so they can turn off notifications from users they might think are being "frivolous" or whatever. You carry on doing whatever you like!
 
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DepressionsAHo

DepressionsAHo

Heaven gained a new ho
Feb 15, 2019
831
Why does the entire forum have to be negative and depressing. Say a depressed suicidal person comes here to vent a bit but also to get a pick me up from the flowers thread or from a fellow member. If it was only about death and dying it'd be kind of boring because the whole thing would be hanging questions over and over. Who's to say that's not a coping mechanism for whatever the poster is going through that they don't always feel the need to share their whole life with everyone in the forum... Why does there have to be a proper way to use the site? Just ignore people who bother you??
Fully agree with you tbh
In real life
I make everybody laugh
My college knows me as the person who cusses like a sailor and can make you piss with laughter
None of them know or could guess I'm suicidal and if news gets out to them, they'll prolly be in shock
 
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WhiteRabbit

WhiteRabbit

I'm late, i'm late. For a very important date.
Feb 12, 2019
1,449
There are users here who have lots of posts and are generally good natured. I would certainly be shocked if one of them put up a goodbye post tomorrow, but sometimes that's how depression works. You can take it, until one day you can't anymore.
 
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Johnnythefox

Johnnythefox

Que sera sera
Nov 11, 2018
3,129
So does it bother people if someone is here who doesn't really want to commit suicide? If someone thinks they probably have to kill themselves, but is still trying to find another way so they can keep living? Does that cause a bother for people here?
Well the person in question has a habit of taking a shit in peoples PMs, did it to me one time, reported him and was told to ignore him. He's blocked and he'll stay that way, I personally find his reason for being here unusual, I wouldn't think of joining a forum where people are discussing personal issues that are totally unrelated to me.
 
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pleasethistime

Experienced
Jun 25, 2018
256
I am curious if there are shrinks, social psychologists and shit
 
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RememberWhatUCameFor

RememberWhatUCameFor

dont cry for me im already dead
Nov 20, 2018
590
People find this place as a safe haven and they get comfortable and it becomes a habit. I see some users with thousands of posts treating this site as some sort of suicidal facebook, I feel really bad for them and I hope I don't get too comfy here and forget what I am here for. In essence, none of us wants to be here.


only a small minority on here will ctb
 
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Thisisme373

Thisisme373

Arcanist
Feb 16, 2019
416
Came here to research methods when I was actively suicidal..
Now I know about the means to end it but not ready to go through, still I think about suicide all day long so I end here every time because there are not many places where I can openly share my desire to die.
Sorry if that's wrong.

That's not wrong at all, I'm in a similar situation. I think people are more talking about people joining this forum who are not depressed, sad, troubled or suicidle at all, just show offs looking for attention.
 
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JustAboutDone

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That's not wrong at all, I'm in a similar situation. I think people are more talking about people joining this forum who are not depressed, sad, troubled or suicidle at all, just show offs looking for attention.

How do you know who is and isn't suicidal or sad or troubled?
 
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Thisisme373

Thisisme373

Arcanist
Feb 16, 2019
416
I don't know, I guess I am looking for attention or using this place as a suicidal facebook. I came here looking for methods, but I'm also whining about my problems and it's an enormous help to me when forum members respond with compassion. But if people find that annoying or feel like this isn't the right place for it, then I don't want to be bothering anyone.
Nobody finds that annoying, venting is good, letting it all out is good, I also know how much help it is to talk to others on here. Maybe I've misinterpreted the OP but I thought they were more talking about people who join this forum who don't have problems, depression, illness or suicidle etc but are just wanting attention.
 
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Thisisme373

Thisisme373

Arcanist
Feb 16, 2019
416
How do you know who is and isn't suicidal or sad or troubled?
I guess I don't, maybe it's just in my mind about a couple I've seen post, my mind is a paranoid anxious mess, anyway I don't want people to think im saying only truly suicidle people should be here, I believe all that are suffering and suicide has entered their minds at all should be welcome here to air their thoughts without judgment, look for methods etc as some comfort if things do get worse and also talking with others could help them hang on that bit longer, I know for a fact this site has helped me, when I came here I was desperate to ctb but I am now a little more content, still depressed as fuck but not begging for death.
 
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JustAboutDone

Illuminated
Jan 1, 2019
3,532
I guess I don't, maybe it's just in my mind about a couple I've seen post, my mind is a paranoid anxious mess, anyway I don't want people to think im saying only truly suicidle people should be here, I believe all that are suffering and suicide has entered their minds at all should be welcome here to air their thoughts without judgment, look for methods etc as some comfort if things do get worse and also talking with others could help them hang on that bit longer, I know for a fact this site has helped me, when I came here I was desperate to ctb but I am now a little more content, still depressed as fuck but not begging for death.

- sometimes I'm not sure what's worse to be honest, at least when planning to ctb we can muster enthusiasm for it, the deep depression is just grim isn't it x
 
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Thisisme373

Thisisme373

Arcanist
Feb 16, 2019
416
- sometimes I'm not sure what's worse to be honest, at least when planning to ctb we can muster enthusiasm for it, the deep depression is just grim isn't it x
It certainly is, I feel totally stuck, zapped of all energy or motivation, I sometimes feel like I'm in some sort of dream state like I'm watching someone else's life
 
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Johnnythefox

Johnnythefox

Que sera sera
Nov 11, 2018
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Thisisme373

Thisisme373

Arcanist
Feb 16, 2019
416
Thanks, it's my own work, and a summation of how I feel.
Its very good, it honestly felt strange as it was describing everything I feel, think and do, the dark theme music and background fitted well.
 
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Johnnythefox

Johnnythefox

Que sera sera
Nov 11, 2018
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Sixfeetunder

Sixfeetunder

Specialist
Jan 12, 2019
319
Now that I know what I'm going to do to ctb, I am here more for fun until the semester ends. I'm waiting until the end of the semester so that if I somehow fail this time, I won't fail my classes as well.
 
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