Discussion Does SI depend on the method?

[ImpairedLowlife]

Would it be easier to drink SN than hang oneself?

 

[novem]

I think SI is just a form of fear and expectation of change for the better.

Which equates to cortisol+dopamine
Funny enough, these are the motivation buttons in the brain: fear and desire.

Pain and suffering induce fear.
Expectation of peasure from the process can leseen SI too if you are able to maintain yourself in the state of your decision during the process.
I think fear is the only component you can control with benzo.

I for example cannot even make myself buy the supplies, I am in such a fear of doing it and I still have hope for life when I am hooked on desire to live by people or memories.

I suppose one could supress cortisol with benzo and expect pleasure from H. This would be the ideal mix for ctb, but the law says Nooooo slaves can't just leave this way.

 

[don't want it]

I think SI is just a form of fear and expectation of change for the better.

Which equates to cortisol+dopamine
Funny enough, these are the motivation buttons in the brain: fear and desire.

Pain and suffering induce fear.
Expectation of peasure from the process can remove fear if you are able to maintain yourself in the state of your decision during the process.

I for example cannot even make myself buy the supplies, I am in such a fear of doing it and I still have hope for life when I am hooked on desire to live by people or memories.

I suppose one could supress cortisol with benzo and expect pleasure from H. This would be the ideal mix for ctb, but the law says Nooooo slaves can't just leave this way.

How can we reduce the survival instinct to a low level by hanging

 

[novem]

How can we reduce the survival instinct to a low level by hanging

Anything against anxiety like benzo I think.

 

[stermc]

I don't think it depends exactly on the method. It's a humane thing so it's inside of us all the time.
There are some methods that are going to make you more afraid, such as hanging or jumping. But even with SN, SI will probably kick in if you don't take any medication.
The only thing we know is life. To run away from dying is, I guess, almost an automatic reaction.

 

[justwanasleep]

I'm going to hang myself, once I'm swinging I've won there will be no si because there's no going back. I have dreams that I have pentobarbital and I panic like fuck once I've drank some and want help. I don't want to be sat around waiting to get unwell and die, I'd much rather choke.

 

[AreWeWinning]

Would it be easier to drink SN than hang oneself?

It would be easier to drink SN, because you would know you can vomit it or call an ambulance if you change your mind. Which there is a chance you will.

It is harder to do full suspension hanging, because you know once you step off that chair, it's final.

 

[ImpairedLowlife]

I think SN would be better since you don't have to go through a lengthy process. You just order the SN, mix the 25g into water and drink away. With hanging you have to find the right rope, the right knots, practice them, find the right anchor point that is strong and wont snap, drive to your destination (in my case a forest), tie the rope into a noose and the other end to the anchor point, put the noose around your neck and kick the chair/ladder away. A lot more steps and a lot more things that can go wrong. Also higher chance for the SI to kick in somewhere in between.

That's pretty much what happened to me. I couldn't place the rope to the anchor. I got too scared. Perhaps drinking SN is more peaceful thus less scary.

 

[FuneralCry]

At least to me I believe that a poison method would be easier to go through with than hanging, the hanging method to me sounds difficult, awful and risky but if someone has SN that method is well known to be reliable if done correctly and all that the person has to do after all, is just drink it. There is a reason as to why so many people wish to obtain SN. I do actually think that the SI does depend on the method, I think that the more complicated and painful the method, the more difficult it will be to overcome the SI.

I think that with especially terrifying methods like jumping and train, I think that many of those who managed to go through with it, must had been very desperate in order to get the courage to free themselves from this world. I just know that if I had a peaceful, poison method like N I would literally have no problems ctb, so of course there would be a big difference with the survival instinct for different methods.

 

[Sunset Limited]

Gun seems to be the best method in this regard. If you have a gun in the house, pull the trigger in a rage moment. Planned suicide is really hard. Because SI starts working days in advance. So I'm still here because my SI worked fine. I got caught by my balls and it squeezes really well.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

It's all difficult but there's no way most people aren't going to find jumping harder than SN (even if it's a guaranteed instant death after jumping). That's one reason I think SN is popular, that psychologically it's most palatable to ingest something. After all we do that every day. Every other method involves some unusual action and that can really trigger SI.

 

[TAW122]

For a simple answer, yes I believe different methods can affect one's SI and depending on one's circumstances (whether they have good pain tolerance, ability to tolerate discomfort, level of courage, their knowledge, confidence levels, etc.), some methods may be easier (or harder) depending on the person. For some people, instantaneous death (firearm/explosion/blunt force from falling/impact) may be easier because (in their mind) they know they won't feel pain, won't suffer, and would be gone before they could register what happened. For others, it may be the opposite, meaning that they fear the violent method (even if it may be instantaneous) as they could not stomach the process of dying that manner. In the end, it depends on the person and how comfortable one is with whatever method they choose.

 

[missingpeace]

Would it be easier to drink SN than hang oneself?

I think this is what I will resort to, I am trying to hang myself off the door but SI kicks in and I pull it off, need to keep trying. I also have SN but i would rather just go at home, if I take SN I will have to go away for a couple of days.

 

[lionetta12]

Would it be easier to drink SN than hang oneself?

Hypotethically, SI can depend on method. If you're almost passed out drunk or on LSD you might have a lower SI than if you're sober.

 

[grandeur.egg]

Hypotethically, SI can depend on method. If you're almost passed out drunk or on LSD you might have a lower SI than if you're sober.

why specifically LSD? lmao, i feel like LSD while trying to ctb is not a good idea because of how varied of a response psychadelics/hallucinogens can have depending on the persons current and past experience

 

[lionetta12]

why specifically LSD? lmao, i feel like LSD while trying to ctb is not a good idea because of how varied of a response psychadelics/hallucinogens can have depending on the persons current and past experience

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4220298/

There's been some scientific articles and news articles about how some people end up trying to accidently CTB during LSD or their SI was a little decreased during it, I only read about it because I was researching what drugs could help decrease SI like half a year ago and that's when I came accross some of it. I have 0 experience with LSD or any drugs at all so I don't know how it's like obviously.

 

[novem]

I think SI is just a form of fear and expectation of change for the better.

Which equates to cortisol+dopamine
Funny enough, these are the motivation buttons in the brain: fear and desire.

Pain and suffering induce fear.
Expectation of peasure from the process can leseen SI too if you are able to maintain yourself in the state of your decision during the process.
I think fear is the only component you can control with benzo.

I for example cannot even make myself buy the supplies, I am in such a fear of doing it and I still have hope for life when I am hooked on desire to live by people or memories.

I suppose one could supress cortisol with benzo and expect pleasure from H. This would be the ideal mix for ctb, but the law says Nooooo slaves can't just leave this way.

Sadly, hope is the desire to get better, but if it is a lie?
How to cut all the hope?