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dune7263

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this is something that worries me a lot
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Obviously, no one has proved this yet- otherwise, we'd all know about it. I guess we can only go on what we can observe. Unless this is the 'starter' planet- so, our first 'go' at life, we can assume one of two things. Either we don't have multiple past lives or, the huge majority don't remember them.

So effectively, even if we do reincarnate, it seems predictable we'll have no sense that we have already lived before. Are your past lives causing you stress or, is it this one? So- I try to tell myself- there's likely nothing to be concerned about either way. If my consciousness does miraculously turn up again, it will have no memory or left over trauma of my life. That's my feeling anyway.
 
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Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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I sometimes think about how everything is made up of matter and energy just particles being rearranged endlessly. Stars explode, their dust forms planets, those planets grow life, and then that life dies and decays and becomes something else. It's all a cycle. We can observe this on a physical level. Nothing is ever really destroyed it's just reshaped, reused. So it doesn't feel like much of a stretch to imagine that consciousness, whatever that truly is, might also get shuffled around in the same way.

I mean, why would consciousness be the one thing in the universe that doesn't follow this pattern of recycling?

Maybe when we die, the arrangement that was us our body, our brain, our thoughts dissolves, but the pieces go somewhere. And maybe, just maybe, something like "us" forms again somewhere else. Not as a continuation in the linear sense, but more like a reassembly. A remix. Like how a cloud becomes rain becomes a river becomes an ocean becomes vapor again. Maybe consciousness whatever it is works like that too.

The tricky part is memory. If I have lived before, I clearly don't remember it. And if I come back again, I probably won't remember this life either. That actually brings me some comfort. If there's no memory, then there's no leftover pain, regret, or worry to carry forward. The suffering of this life won't follow me. It'll dissolve just like everything else, like heat from a cooling ember.

So even if reincarnation is real even if I do show up again on some other planet, in another body, another timeline I probably won't know I was ever me. This self I'm living now, with all its stresses and thoughts and fears, will fade. And that makes it easier to let go of the fear of death. If I don't come back, then I'll be gone and unaware. And if I do come back, I'll be someone new, starting fresh, unburdened.

That's how I try to look at it: Matter gets shuffled. Energy gets reused. Maybe consciousness does too. And if so, it's probably not something to worry about. It's not punishment or reward it's just the universe continuing to rearrange itself.
 
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easypeasy

The.only.white.sheep
Jul 1, 2024
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No. It can't reincarnate automatically. Your consciousness, you, your spirit, your esssence.. but essentially YOU..Will first undergo a period of silent reflection. With wise, evolved guides helping you through unconditional love and understanding where you have arrived after your life, and allow you to acclimate to your new surroundings and digest this information. I say silent because your ability to understand is a lot more efficient in spirit. You don't need long sentences to explain things. You can communicate thorough intention (as long as it is pure). If you are not at that level yet, you are given opportunities to grow and heal and learn where you end up. The opportunities are vast and wide. And it is not hard, but very rich and very simple compared to the current state of mind you are in.

I hope this helps xoxo
 
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bankai

Paragon
Mar 16, 2025
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I don't think so simply because there are 10s of billions of us who have existed and are existing currently. It doesn't make sense. We are just a species that exists on this planet for now. That's that.
 
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VoidButterfly

Flitterby
May 17, 2025
37
There is no reason to suspect that in my opinion. Our brains produce consciousness, when they are damaged that consciousness changes. When the brain is dead there is no reason to believe that the consciousness suddenly gains an ability to leave the brain.
 
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TemporaryToTesting

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Apr 11, 2025
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OP, if it calms your nerves, I highly recommend you read the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy page on consciousness. It'll probably cover everything you might be worried about, and there are arguments for and against basically every other opinion. It's a little long though (given how complex the nature of the subject is!) so if you haven't the time to read through it, I think the concluding paragraph summarises any question when it comes to consciousness at this current stage of philosophy and science:
A comprehensive understanding of consciousness will likely require theories of many types. One might usefully and without contradiction accept a diversity of models that each in their own way aim respectively to explain the physical, neural, cognitive, functional, representational and higher-order aspects of consciousness. There is unlikely to be any single theoretical perspective that suffices for explaining all the features of consciousness that we wish to understand. Thus a synthetic and pluralistic approach may provide the best road to future progress.

The short version: Nobody has a fucking clue LOL, there's little to no reason worrying about it as people smarter than all of us combined have been doing the same for millenia.

Usually I would recommend some of the posts on the r/askphilosophy subreddit but when it comes to the discussion of consciousness there, it's a mixed bag of quality, with some posts basically just stating what I have above while other older posts (when the subreddit was less actively moderated) are too short and don't elaborate on much.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
3,359
why this topic is important to me. knowing what i am . also that there won't be any more extreme suffering after my brain dies.

consciousness is created only by a brain.there is no evidence for anything other than that. so a human is just that particular brain in your head .

whatever consciousness or thinking a mouse , fly or other animal has is a product only of that animal's brain.

the more you read book about the brain , consciousness, evolution, the cell, and other research the more this becomes obvious. i'm just my brain, cells, a machine , chemical reactions.

what i am is a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain. how is that something good? some people say enjoy this. is watching a youtube video or eating a sandwich worth even a minute of the constant worse pain for even a minute of that pain? no. much less hours or days or years of the worst pain which is possible.

nobody wants even 10 seconds of the constant worst pain , much less a minute , 10 minutes , 10 hours, 10 days of the constant worst pain. i don';t get it why people are not scared of life and living as really bad pain or suffering can strike any day. and extreme suffering is also possible as long as consciousness continues so why wouldn't people be afraid of possible afterlives also? i can't separate the worst suffering and worst pain from the pleasurable addictions like eating , entertaining videos ,social media as they are both part of this hell. but the worst pain makes everything else meaningless. non-existence forever is the only guarantee of never suffering so bad it's a trillion times worse than you can imagine. while living there is no such gurantee. this is why non-existence is better than living or being conscious.

it is important for me to know that i'm no different from a lizard, mouse , crow, fly, bug, fish , ameoba, a cell, a machine , chemical reactions.

there is zero evidence for a soul, afterlife, reincarnation, other dimensions, multi-verses, quantum immortality , computer simulation , and countless other theories people made up. why are all these things like souls hiding ? why after decades of trying to find evidence not a single peice of evidence for any of this ? because they don't exist.

however there is libraries of books of evidence that consciousness is created only by the brain. same for that all life is just cells and every organism including a human descended from a single one celled ancestor : so we are all just that first cell.

most ? people keep saying we don't know . but massive evidence is out there on the internet in books etc for what a human is . saying we don';t know is saying we don't know what life is , what a human is , how did it originate : but all this has been figured out.

i guess one reason people believe a lot of these theories is that they don't realize that there is no evidence for any of them other than the brain generates consciuosness which there is massive evidence for . the rest are just theories that some human decided to invent like a novelist writes a novel but puts "fiction" on it then people know it's fiction. something is fiction untill proven with reproducible evidence.
 
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JesiBel

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Dec 5, 2024
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Only the dead have the answers, and they can no longer write here. The rest will be theories depending on each person's religion or belief.
 
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ToTheNeverland

Spaghettification
May 11, 2025
21
Hopefully not. I will take the deep, dreamless sleep over any and all forms of afterlife, or another life for that matter.
 
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divinemistress36

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Jan 1, 2024
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Like others have said nobody knows despite some people thinking they have the answers on here. Watching peoples reports of ndes on youtube is interesting though
 
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Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
5,504
what if re emergence of consciousness isn't a thing then, it's eternal nothingness after death
and if re emergence of consciousness is a thing then, it could be as something fragile, fearful, short-lived.
But that's just part of the cosmic roulette the same one that gave you this life.

I don't know what happens after this. Maybe nothing. Maybe something.
But I know I exist now. i know that when i die my lights will go out

it's either Eternal nothingness or Eternal recurrence — but as anything, anyone, anywhere, with no control.
But if consciousness can re-emerge, you're tossed back into the cosmic dice roll.
 
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bananaolympus

Specialist
Dec 12, 2024
302
there is theories like quantum immortality but at the end of the day nobody knows for certain if such things exist in my opinion if such things exist they are above human comprehension like how difficult is for the mind to imagine how a 5,6,7 dimensions would look like
 
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Griever

SN
May 1, 2025
437
I have no idea what comes after death, I just hope that I will find my long-awaited and well-deserved peace
 
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PrettyWhiteFlower

Use my corpse to grow mushrooms, preferably magic
May 14, 2025
38
I like the thought that reincarnation is real and that we are actually souls/energy that has existed for much longer than we imagine. That would mean this shitty life is only a tiny part of my existence and maybe I've lived lives were I was happy. That our souls have an intelligence and understanding that we cannot perceive. That in that form we aren't the confused, upset and damaged humans we are now. I have no evidence and I don't care if people agree because it's the only thing that calms the existential dread and anxiety I get when thinking about the afterlife and the concept of forever
 
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purelydaft

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Apr 5, 2024
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there is theories like quantum immortality but at the end of the day nobody knows for certain if such things exist in my opinion if such things exist they are above human comprehension like how difficult is for the mind to imagine how a 5,6,7 dimensions would look like
Not a theory, and I think it would be best for all laymen (or anyone, really) to not base their life decisions on anything even vaguely quantum related. It is ultimately a philosophical question, and attributing credibility to such thoughts via (pseudo)science is misleading.
 
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bananaolympus

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Dec 12, 2024
302
Not a theory, and I think it would be best for all laymen (or anyone, really) to not base their life decisions on anything even vaguely quantum related. It is ultimately a philosophical question, and attributing credibility to such thoughts via (pseudo)science is misleading.
ofc is not a theory in a science sence but is a belief i brought for op question one who can't be proven or disproven like any other after death related beliefs
 
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ghost5555

Member
Oct 4, 2024
11
I don't really have anything to base this off of scientifically or logically but I do believe this and I'm not exactly religious per se, and at least not in the traditional sense. I don't think it's a good or bad thing, it just is. I also believe there's an aspect of choice in it.
 
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white_car

Member
Dec 22, 2024
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No idea...

But the thing that makes the most sense and is somewhat approachable, is to think of it as similar to before we were born... Non existence...

The best way to say it is the expression "dreamless sleep", but permanently.
 
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yxmux

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Apr 16, 2024
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(warning: unhinged speculation by amateur wikipedia scraper)

consciousness during death would likely be progressively more basic and decomposed as there would be less coherent power supply and less of a structured organ to supply a complex consciousness. subjective experience would undergo retardation until it is level with the power output of the surrounding environment.
 
Darkover

Darkover

Archangel
Jul 29, 2021
5,504
"Stay Lost and Found"
by you

There's a conclusion to my illusion—
I assure you this.
But there's no end to the confusion
If you let it win.

You did well—
Can't you tell
What you are giving?

There is a light to all this darkness,
I will tell you this:
There is redemption in you—
That's why it is
That some answers
Are better left unspoken.

You're not getting any younger, are you?

Why do we fight to get our loving?
I've been wondering...
How your mind will leave you hanging,
Your heart lining—

Stay lost and found,
Whoever stays around.
You are forgetting:

There's a way
To be yourself.
There's a way
To get your dream—
Without falling asleep.
 
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dune7263

Student
Jan 26, 2025
183
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No. It can't reincarnate automatically. Your consciousness, you, your spirit, your esssence.. but essentially YOU..Will first undergo a period of silent reflection. With wise, evolved guides helping you through unconditional love and understanding where you have arrived after your life, and allow you to acclimate to your new surroundings and digest this information. I say silent because your ability to understand is a lot more efficient in spirit. You don't need long sentences to explain things. You can communicate thorough intention (as long as it is pure). If you are not at that level yet, you are given opportunities to grow and heal and learn where you end up. The opportunities are vast and wide. And it is not hard, but very rich and very simple compared to the current state of mind you are in.

I hope this helps xoxo
how do you know this?
 

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