does it scare/anger you guys when you think about god and the future?

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when i think about the future and what i want to be or want to do, i cant imagine being happy or wanting to do anything else. but you see things about people pursuing something their entire lives and then god has plans for them doing something completely different. for example, in the bible there are some stories where people believe "i could never be a priest" but then god leads them on a path to become a priest anyway. the idea of god having me doing something completely different than what i want to do scares me and makes me angry at him. i cant imagine myself being happy doing anything else and the fact that he has the complete power to take that away from me makes me mad. i feel like in the future hes going to take it away from me and put me in a job i would hate even if it makes more money. do you guys feel the same way?

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

The stories you are talking about happen because of a thing that in magic is called "magician's choice" sometimes also known as equivocation; (this thing didn't officially exist back in the dark ages but it functions similarly to what they would do to get you to complain) so do not worry, god has plans for you as much as I do, zero. The only thing that has power over you is the influence of others.

The brain is wired in very ambigious ways that we still can't understand. You choosing to believe this whole "god has a plan for me" shtick can and will (if you keep doing it) influence you into picking the one thing you were afraid of. Because it can lead to two paths: A) You willingly go with it and B) You are skeptical of it but you then get influenced by other people who shower you with other lies saying "it's the devil who wants you to be skeptical of it! You must do it!!!!"; Or option C) You get the hell away from religion, back in the days they could kill you for it, now you can flip them off on the way out and they'll do nothing about it because they can't.

Religion doesn't exist, and the people who are so devoted to it are the same as any other online fictional fanboy, they defend the only thing that gives them a sense of safety; of course they give absolutely 0 shits about anyone other than themselves so sometimes people like you get distressed because too many people played along with their fantasy in front of you and made you question if reality as we all know it is fake and some bearded guy in the clouds will actually give you hell for disobeying the mortal chieftain called "the priest"

And I say this living in one of the more religious countries in the world, Romania.

 

[chunkercat_]

The stories you are talking about happen because of a thing that in magic is called "magician's choice" sometimes also known as equivocation; (this thing didn't officially exist back in the dark ages but it functions similarly to what they would do to get you to complain) so do not worry, god has plans for you as much as I do, zero. The only thing that has power over you is the influence of others.

The brain is wired in very ambigious ways that we still can't understand. You choosing to believe this whole "god has a plan for me" shtick can and will (if you keep doing it) influence you into picking the one thing you were afraid of. Because it can lead to two paths: A) You willingly go with it and B) You are skeptical of it but you then get influenced by other people who shower you with other lies saying "it's the devil who wants you to be skeptical of it! You must do it!!!!"; Or option C) You get the hell away from religion, back in the days they could kill you for it, now you can flip them off on the way out and they'll do nothing about it because they can't.

Religion doesn't exist, and the people who are so devoted to it are the same as any other online fictional fanboy, they defend the only thing that gives them a sense of safety; of course they give absolutely 0 shits about anyone other than themselves so sometimes people like you get distressed because too many people played along with their fantasy in front of you and made you question if reality as we all know it is fake and some bearded guy in the clouds will actually give you hell for disobeying the mortal chieftain called "the priest"

And I say this living in one of the more religious countries in the world, Romania.

i do believe in god and thats something we have to agree to disagree on but i wanna ask out of curiosity. what lead you into disliking religion and religious people so much. and how do you think everything started? like the universe and the earth and so what. and do you have any specific reason for believing all religion is fake?

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

i do believe in god and thats something we have to agree to disagree on but i wanna ask out of curiosity. what lead you into disliking religion and religious people so much. and how do you think everything started? like the universe and the earth and so what. and do you have any specific reason for believing all religion is fake?

It's fine if you do believe, I just wanted to tell you that you shouldn't let others control you and influence you. I don't believe because I never found a reason to, if a higher being exists they are either just or unjust, I don't care to ruminate about what ifs and the religious people in my country are like a cult.

I did believe when I was very little and started believing less and less as I aged because I noticed that most religious people just aren't the best people and use religion as a crutch to forgive themselves of their shitty mistakes and shitty way of life; and on top of that are very judging. I don't need that so I won't be religious regardless, even if I could be one of the good ones in theory, it's just something I don't allign with!

Also most religions hate groups of people because "god" tells them too , in reality they just don't like certain groups , hate them and then say like a little kid "but god told me to!". Sometimes I really wonder what's the difference between this artificial schizophrenia of *SOME* religious people and the diagnosed real schizophrenia.

I can answer, one of them is a traumatic , unfair and unjust mental illness who makes day to day life of the one who suffers from it a nightmare and the other is a traumatic , unfair and unjust mental illness who makes the day of others a nightmare and affects their very safety in some cases (see what happens to gay people in Islamic countries!) Guess who's who, well I kind of gave it away on the last thing.

 

[chunkercat_]

It's fine if you do believe, I just wanted to tell you that you shouldn't let others control you and influence you. I don't believe because I never found a reason to, if a higher being exists they are either just or unjust, I don't care to ruminate about what ifs and the religious people in my country are like a cult.

I did believe when I was very little and started believing less and less as I aged because I noticed that most religious people just aren't the best people and use religion as a crutch to forgive themselves of their shitty mistakes and shitty way of life; and on top of that are very judging. I don't need that so I won't be religious regardless, even if I could be one of the good ones in theory, it's just something I don't allign with!

Also most religions hate groups of people because "god" tells them too , in reality they just don't like certain groups , hate them and then say like a little kid "but god told me to!". Sometimes I really wonder what's the difference between this artificial schizophrenia of *SOME* religious people and the diagnosed real schizophrenia.

I can answer, one of them is a traumatic , unfair and unjust mental illness who makes day to day life of the one who suffers from it a nightmare and the other is a traumatic , unfair and unjust mental illness who makes the day of others a nightmare and affects their very safety in some cases (see what happens to gay people in Islamic countries!) Guess who's who, well I kind of gave it away on the last thing.

you make some really good points because a lot of people i meet in Christianity are very judgmental along with them doing things because god told them too. i think its because a lot of people in Christianity (I'm only talking about Christianity because I'm Christian) only focus on the connection with god rather than the connection with people. that's because that's how you go to heaven is by having a relationship with god which is very selfish to only focus on that. i understand why people do it but i find it hard to bring myself to respect those people. and i have also deeply thought about how people have god telling them to do things and i still think about it a lot. i don't think god has every talked to me directly because i think god has done all the talking through the bible but people have taken that so literally they think they hear his voice in their head. it just seems like placebo to me but there's so much pressure and belief that god can directly talk to you that people start hearing their voice in their head. i don't think having "his voice" is particularly bad though because i think its just your mind thinking from a Christian perspective. its like, in a way, asking yourself if what you're about to do is considered Christian or the right thing to do. but when people think its actually god talking to them is when it becomes a problem. then they believe that whatever the voice in their head says is true and the word of god but its not (in my opinion). there also isn't enough people challenging each others personal beliefs in Christianity which leads to people assuming that everybody that goes to the same church just believes in god the same way they do. its a deep rabbit hole that 90% of people don't want to step in and never question which i think is a huge problem. and it makes me angry how oblivious people can be to the deeper side of things. we are kinda similar in our resentment in those kind of religious people. hope i explained everything well

 

[StupidCat]

osaker : )

 

[Forever Sleep]

I don't really believe in God but sure, the future is scary. Hopefully, I have less of it in front of me now- I'm 45.

But, addressing your example, we change as people as we grow. A child or young adult may grow up loving skate boarding say. Maybe they have a serious injury. Maybe they just become bored with it or, realise they can't make enough money doing it. But, maybe they discover that they love something else in their twenties- just as much or, even more than they loved skate boarding. Surely, you'd see that as a 'blessing'? That something else came into their lives that they were just as interested in?

The priest in your example. You didn't describe whether he resented his path. Presumably, he became a priest because, in that moment, he really wanted to. Doesn't really matter so much how he felt about it when he was 18. He isn't that 18 year old now.

Of course, the things to worry about are when you so desperately want to do something but, you can't. Often because you can't afford it. You know it would be unwise to pursue as a career. Maybe you can still do it as a hobby but, maybe not. Life likely will be a bunch of compromises for a lot of us. God or fate or whatever will no doubt br throwing us a bunch of curved balls.

If there is a God, sure I'm angry with them. If there isn't then, maybe it's just all chance. I can still feel resentful towards my parents though- for exposing me to all this risk.