oziinnz

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I know that it is meant to be a peaceful death?
But is dying painful always even with nembutal/ pentobarbital?

Will a struggle to be breathe or pain cause your body to convulse or wake you up as you die?

Does it take long to die?
 
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There was literally a thread about this very topic, on this very page, not even halfway down the page. Was this really necessary?
 
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There was literally a thread about this very topic, on this very page, not even halfway down the page. Was this really necessary?
Maybe they didn't see it? They are a fairly new member.
Here is a thread that might help you. If I had the money to afford N I would use that as my method. Not much can seem to go wrong. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/is-n-really-painless.85004/
 
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Oh, it's horrible, and extremely, EXTREMELY painful. I once read a story about someone who survived, after 120 hours of severe torture, who said it was the worst pain imaginable. Worse than watching THE VIEW.
I'd suggest something less gruesome, like severing an artery while trying to saw a leg off.
Maybe they didn't see it? They are a fairly new member.
Here is a thread that might help you. If I had the money to afford N I would use that as my method. Not much can seem to go wrong. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/is-n-really-painless.85004/
And yet, they knew that N was "meant to be a peaceful death".
Notice they didn't ask about charcoal, or SN, but N.
They knew enough to ask about N specifically, in order to poke holes in the argument against the "holy grail" of peaceful deaths.
 
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Sodium pentobarbital (Nembutal) is the most peaceful way of dying ever known to humankind, period.

Ingest sodium pentobarbital. Drift off to sleep. Go into a deep sleep. Go into a permanent sleep. That's all, as simple as that!

One wouldn't even know one is about to die. No pain at all. No discomfort at all. Just go into a deep sleep, and make that sleep a permanent one. I don't know why people still have doubts on something as simple as this. 🤔
 
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Oh, it's horrible, and extremely, EXTREMELY painful. I once read a story about someone who survived, after 120 hours of severe torture, who said it was the worst pain imaginable. Worse than watching THE VIEW.
I'd suggest something less gruesome, like severing an artery while trying to saw a leg off.

And yet, they knew that N was "meant to be a peaceful death".
Notice they didn't ask about charcoal, or SN, but N.
They knew enough to ask about N specifically, in order to poke holes in the argument against the "holy grail" of peaceful deaths.
I searched and looked at the results and the "has this been posted before" suggestions and didn't see it....
Maybe I needed to just search the word alone?
I searched is nembutal painful. I'm guilty of not searching hard enough but I'm not trying to poke holes in it. I am an overthinker and am pretty close to ordering it from D. I'm scared of pain but from what I can tell from reading Ppeh N or exit bah and nitrogen sound the least painful but I just wanted to know what everyone on here thought.
I did google it after posting this question and it sounds like all the reports that it is painful are from pro life and euthanasia groups who are trying to dissuade people.
Sorry that I maybe didn't go through many posts with the word nembutal or see the one you were talking about but you sound pretty on the attack.
I searched and looked at the results and the "has this been posted before" suggestions and didn't see it....
Maybe I needed to just search the word alone?
I searched is nembutal painful. I'm guilty of not searching hard enough but I'm not trying to poke holes in it. I am an overthinker and am pretty close to ordering it from D. I'm scared of pain but from what I can tell from reading Ppeh N or exit bah and nitrogen sound the least painful but I just wanted to know what everyone on here thought.
I did google it after posting this question and it sounds like all the reports that it is painful are from pro life and euthanasia groups who are trying to dissuade people.
Sorry that I maybe didn't go through many posts with the word nembutal or see the one you were talking about but you sound pretty on the attack.
I meant anti*** euthanasia groups
Maybe they didn't see it? They are a fairly new member.
Here is a thread that might help you. If I had the money to afford N I would use that as my method. Not much can seem to go wrong. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/is-n-really-painless.85004/
Thankyou. I didn't see it and I did search but obviously not very well lol
 
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I searched and looked at the results and the "has this been posted before" suggestions and didn't see it....
Maybe I needed to just search the word alone?
I searched is nembutal painful. I'm guilty of not searching hard enough but I'm not trying to poke holes in it. I am an overthinker and am pretty close to ordering it from D. I'm scared of pain but from what I can tell from reading Ppeh N or exit bah and nitrogen sound the least painful but I just wanted to know what everyone on here thought.
I did google it after posting this question and it sounds like all the reports that it is painful are from pro life and euthanasia groups who are trying to dissuade people.
Sorry that I maybe didn't go through many posts with the word nembutal or see the one you were talking about but you sound pretty on the attack.

I meant anti*** euthanasia groups
No reason to be sorry. Just keep going through the threads read and learn as much as you can. The questions that you have asked have been answered several times over and over you just have to look through threads.
 
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Smart No More

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For the sake of clarity, any new members reading should be aware that animosity on these topics isn't personal. You can thank trouble makers from various corners of the net/world that come here and post honey trap type posts looking for things to screenshot and post elsewhere in opposition to this forums existence. When people see a low post count or new members posting in apparent naivety it often stinks of goading or trapping. The knee jerk response is to call it out or ignore it so not really helpful to genuine posters. That said, it's always worth a few searches because there are so many of these threads and info surrounding N and the more popular/commonly accessible methods so whilst it's a shame their actions impact the flow of good info the info already exists and is available to find via search function. Not sure how long it takes for new members to get access to search bar. Not long though I don't think.
 
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So the actual process is extremely simple.
Drink the medicine, in 2-3 gulps. Relax in bed maybe play one last song, go to sleep like normal. You will be asleep in 2 mins maybe 5 minutes depending on few factors, often people go to
Sleep mid sentence. You will go into a barbiturate coma. From there you will have breathing slow down until it stops. You won't feel It as you'll be in a coma.
You will die within 30 minutes usually sometimes up to few hours but as you'll be in coma time recollection will not matter.

There is 0 chance of pain or it acting differently, it works the same for everyone only difference is some people who overweight need a bit more
 
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I get this. N seems like a very good option, very likely the best available, and likely one I will eventually take, even if I sometimes have doubts. I don't see there being any harm in asking about those doubts so long as one's intent is finding the truth or finding peace of mind and not pro-life fearmongering or anything. I'm a firm believer that the truth holds up to scrutiny.
 
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Nembutal death is the 'easiest' death. Just the usual suicidal instinct and paranoia applies still for lot of people, also I think there's a financial aspect of it being around a thousand dollars in some places.
 
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I know that it is meant to be a peaceful death?
But is dying painful always even with nembutal/ pentobarbital?

Will a struggle to be breathe or pain cause your body to convulse or wake you up as you die?

Does it take long to die?
Few seconds at dignitas but how on earth can it be obtained I'd say near on impossible?
 
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I get this. N seems like a very good option, very likely the best available, and likely one I will eventually take, even if I sometimes have doubts. I don't see there being any harm in asking about those doubts so long as one's intent is finding the truth or finding peace of mind and not pro-life fearmongering or anything. I'm a firm believer that the truth holds up to scrutiny.
I'm with you on truth holding up to scrutiny. However there is a weak link in the chain which is many humans instinct to interpret results selectively based on their (varied) ulterior motives or vested interests. This in turn muddy's the waters as truth is only observed by the recorded results of scrutiny and therefore there ends up being a case of 'chinese whispers' and echoed falsehoods so discovering the truth becomes a matter of interpreting things correctly. Something that can't be done reliably without all the facts available. It's a bit of a paradoxical situation which presents no real solution bar a lot of investigation. Therefore I'm in thorough agreement with your sentiment in that it should be acceptable to ask as many questions as necessary to discover the truth for oneself.

That said, it shouldn't be a replacement for doing ones research. Lackadaisical research is prone to incorrect results.
 
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Yeah N is considered the "Holy Grail" of a peaceful death by the PPH. I suggest reading it (its posted in the pinned threads) to gain a good understanding of each method.
 
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People get operated on while under and don't feel pain so Nembutal probably doesn't hurt.
 
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I got news for y'all, NO ONE, who has been successful at ctb with N, or any other method for that matter, can tell you how much discomfort, if any, they had. I've got a sneaky suspicion that dying by ANY MEANS produces some type of discomfort, at least, based on only what dying is. You stop breathing, Your heart ceases. All your metabolic mechanisms stop. Your brain stops working. It may not last long, and again, I don't know since I have never died, but I would bet that there is some momentary amount of discomfort, or pain, when body systems shut down. I don't believe that the difference between life and death is comparable to shutting off a light. And this isn't even a good analogy because, if you have ever noticed, when you flip a light switch off, the light bulb doesn't instantaneously turn off. No, it burns still for a fraction of a second until it consumes the residual electricity in the wire. N may be the most peaceful method available, but that is based on what science knows, and what is understood, about what happens when the human body ceases to function. There will always be a " * " next to any proclamations made about how "peaceful" a method is. That's the "unknown unknowns". I suppose YMMV.

People get operated on while under and don't feel pain so Nembutal probably doesn't hurt.
True enough. But, then again their hearts were still beating, they still had respirations, and their brains were still functioning. Even when they do a heart replacement or bypass, the blood circulation is never stopped. Actual death stops blood circulation. And you know what happens to diabetic limbs when enough blood fails to circulate to the limbs. The limb turns gangrenous. And when tissue has a lack of blood, that results in extreme pain. No one can ever know for sure how much pain someone experiences upon death.
 
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Going Out Soon

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There was literally a thread about this very topic, on this very page, not even halfway down the page. Was this really necessary?
My cognitive issues are such that I hardly have enough mental energy to read a post that is longer than a single sentence, let alone learn how to navigate this website. I've scrolled down and still have no idea where this original thread is. My brain doesn't work at all. I can be staring right at something and not comprehend it. Please take into consideration that others may be like me.
For the sake of clarity, any new members reading should be aware that animosity on these topics isn't personal. You can thank trouble makers from various corners of the net/world that come here and post honey trap type posts looking for things to screenshot and post elsewhere in opposition to this forums existence. When people see a low post count or new members posting in apparent naivety it often stinks of goading or trapping. The knee jerk response is to call it out or ignore it so not really helpful to genuine posters. That said, it's always worth a few searches because there are so many of these threads and info surrounding N and the more popular/commonly accessible methods so whilst it's a shame their actions impact the flow of good info the info already exists and is available to find via search function. Not sure how long it takes for new members to get access to search bar. Not long though I don't think.
People make it sound so easy. The fact that new members don't get a search bar is a major problem if you want to avoid repeat questions. As a new member, I'm grateful for OP's post because I can't see the other N threads.
 
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I personally cannot understand why someone would worry about the minor discomfort from arguably the best method of suicide if legal.

I suppose because I don't understand why the fear of mild physical discomfort is greater than the torment making someone suicidal in the first place.

If somone wants to ctb, then continued existence itself is suffering.

If the poster doesn't know that X or Y method are supposed to relatively painless than it make some sense to inquire about the pain level. But you still have to get the head around a little pain being something of concern when life is pain.
 
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My cognitive issues are such that I hardly have enough mental energy to read a post that is longer than a single sentence, let alone learn how to navigate this website. I've scrolled down and still have no idea where this original thread is. My brain doesn't work at all. I can be staring right at something and not comprehend it. Please take into consideration that others may be like me.

People make it sound so easy. The fact that new members don't get a search bar is a major problem if you want to avoid repeat questions. As a new member, I'm grateful for OP's post because I can't see the other N threads.
For what it's worth I agree with you. I was just explaining why people are quick to react that way at times. I, at one point was all for giving new members search access and voiced it in the forum suggestions section. I see logic for withholding it too though. Truth is, anyone can search the forum with or without the search bar by using a search engine and inputting the site name and your search terms. You can get quite specific about it. Most people with ill intent (and the intelligence to use it) probably already know how to use that so it may well be that it's not much use to withhold it from new members. It may be a formality/loophole that circumnavigates some kind of potential legal litigation or whatever too though. Guess we just have to trust the Administration with this stuff.

Regarding your cognitive issues. We are alike. I know just how you feel and it's not just hard work it's soul destroying to be half a person or a shadow of your former self.
 
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