My post first started off asking a question and asking for clarification. I was engaging the poster. I then ended with listing some people I felt, and other black friends of mine feel,
No offence, but if your gonna draw for the black friends defence you'll have to give me numbers (how many black friends do you have that listen to these people?)
I have to ask because this is a super common talking point for racists online. not to tar you with that brush, but flags are already being raised when you immediately go for the black friend defence.
are more inspirational and motivational than someone she quoted. Is it up to the poster whether they wish to look at that list I provided or not. I just found it disheartening that someone she looked up to said something that was self defeating. If everyone you look up to says you are going to fail, well, it is hard to succeed.
Sure, but if your going to listen to a black conservative grifter who simultaneously defended Hitler...
And claimed the BLM movement is unjust/bad because Tucker Carlson(popular with white supremists) told her so...
"Tucker Carlson told the truth about #BLM: it has nothing to do with black lives. When 18 black people were murdered in 24 hours in Chicago #GeorgeFloyd riots, plus 10 people shot in Brooklyn in one hour — the movement is about black anarchy. And I will never bend a knee to that."
Candace Owens, Twitter, June 9, 2020.
She also claimed White Supremecy isn't an issue for Minority Americans as they aren't harming Black Americans...
"Based on the hierarchy of what's impacting minority Americans, if I had to make a list of 100 things, white nationalism would not make the list. White supremacy and white nationalism is not a problem that is harming Black America."
Candace Owens in testimony in front of a U.S. House Oversight Joint Subcommittee hearing Sept. 20, 2019.
It's safe to say she's not on your side, and probably more harmful to listen too than someone simply stating the truth that your life will be harder as a black person or POC.
I pose the same question to you that I did to the poster, could you clarify what troubles you are having with dating as a black man that is unique to you that other individuals are not dealing with? You said you were dating both black and white women so it gives the impression you are doing better than most.
Sure. Worth noting my dating data pool is taken from my dating experience of 10+ years. This was also before my mental health declined massively.
So as a black guy, you're automatically hyper-sexualised, there's a huge expectation from every
other race, and there's this ridiculous hyper masculine standard your supposed to meet because black men are always portrayed that way from pop culture to porn. Always.
Now, this can work in your favour depending on the type of person you are. I'm pretty introverted so I relied on my personality to win myself over with prospective partners. Though i'm not exactly ugly, i'm slim but athletic, and i'm blessed in other areas too, (which im super thankful for) however, if your a black guy who doesn't meet that criteria, it's tougher to attract people based on your true self. You're kind of forced to put on a front to attract
any kind of attention. But even in this case, a good personality can get you there. It really can.
If you can make a woman feel comfortable and laugh around you, you're doing great. Just try and be self aware.
What usually throws people off with my posts is that I do not speak in absolute terms and I do not make claims for large groups of people and I wont. I talk about my experiences and experiences of others I have directly talked to. When I look at you I am not going make any assumptions about you because you are black and I am not going to make assumptions about you because you are a guy. I won't be foolish and pretend to know anything about you based on your skin color, sex or any other attribute. I will engage you as an individual. There isn't anything global to any specific race or sex. Even then you are better off breaking things down by sub cultures. I have got a bit of hate on the forum for treating people as individuals instead of assuming things about an entire race. Very puzzling.
No. I don't think this is the case at all.
I'm willing to bet its because you disregard the shared experience certain groups have to endure, therefore you're not considerate of that persons struggles with their racial identity. While each person is individual and unique, society as a whole doesn't always treat us so. There are certainly triggers you could be hitting while trying to "treat this person as an individual" because you're neglecting that racism has any effect on their personal life.
Asian women as often stereotyped as being sub-servient, timid, quiet, passive etc...
If i were talking to an Asian woman on here, I would avoid criticism of her being too loud, vocal, independent, opinionated, outspoken etc..
While people
can be obnoxious regardless of race, some people are also made to feel like they don't have an equal say
because of race. This can also cause a vicious cycle.
You can apply this to any race ^
I disagree with your assessment of Candice and know plenty of black people who agree with her, which you probably have something bad to say about them as well?
In a lot of cases, yes. You can be black and conservative, but you can also be black and racist. Owens is racist. And if you follow her, I have to question you.
While I haven't listened to everything she has said, and will not claim I agree with everything she says, what I have heard was accurate and reasonable to me. You are free to mention something specific and we can discuss that. I do know she has never once claimed racism doesn't exist, as most reasonable people do not make such claims, but you are free to post where she made that statement, if you feel I am in error, and I will happily look it over. I will definitely stop recommending her if that is the case.
maybe we can start with the stuff i quoted at the top of my reply.
She's definitely claimed institutional racism doesn't exist, she's also a paid speaker for Prager-U, the same Prager-U that put out a
pro-slavery video.
You probably about to type about "
what about this video is racist or pro-slavery, give an example"
So i'll save time and post this video that Hasan summed up perfectly.
Now answer this, what kind of self respecting, self aware black person would endorse Prager-U's racist propaganda??
easy answer.
a grifter millionaire out to make a quick buck. She's in it for the money, her views and perspective are dictated by cash.
Oh, and lets not forget her stigmatization of Anthony Bourdain after he took his own life.
when anthony bourdain took his own life, candace owens made a video where she blamed it on "pc culture" and the "culture of victimhood" and bragged about how because she was outspoken she wasn't prone to suicidal ideation
So do you really want to suggest her to a suicidal black woman on a suicide forum? like really dude? ...you still sure about her?
Do you have opinions about any of the other people on the list or does having her name there make you dismiss the entire list?
EDIT: Are you saying I claimed that people preferred their own race or were you speaking in a general way? Also, are you claiming I am pro racism in some way?
she might be worst in that list, but some of the others are hardly a beacon of light for minorities.
RE: preferring race - no this was generally aimed at anybody trying to make that claim. not you specifically, when i hit post comment it just added it to my previous post.