Discussion Does anyone else want to end the world?

[StrangeAndDeath]

I've been trying to ctb, but peaceful methods are beyond my reach. And since I come from a religious background, I consider some aspects of afterlife events as plausible. Mainly, hell and reincarnation. I think that if those two exist, we may be in for an even shittier time than we realize. But I feel that destroying the human race would stop potential others from sharing our fate.

This is the only goal I'm attracted to at all. I would give up my ctb goals if I think it can be achieved. But I can't help but wonder if this is how serial killers are made.

I'm not evil, I just want to give myself and everyone else some form of mercy.

 

[Rounded Agony]

Yeah, that's not normal. Forcing your beliefs on others, pro- or anti- life or death, is bad. It's one thing to not care whether all life ended, another to want to bring that about.

 

[universe]

It's totally understandable. The human world is terrible, made of suffering, violence and pain. I wish I never existed, I have no place in this world, I never had and I never will. I cannot accept living in this world. If tomorrow, one or more nuclear bombs hit the planet and everything was destroyed, I would be indifferent. It would even suit me if the bomb were dropped on my house. Basically whether the human being disappears or not, it has no importance, impact in the universe. This, however, would make the suffering and violence disappear. Human beings are profoundly evil and their extinction would not be a bad thing (in my opinion).

However, I also hate the animal world, life in general. For me life should not exist in the universe, I find planets without any form of life much more grandiose. When I look at them, I tell myself that they look so peaceful: there is no war, no living being who suffers. Simply calm, serenity and eternity.

 

[StreetSweeper]

Nope, thats fucked up

 

[dtjb]

No. Just like I don't want others deciding for me, I don't get to decide that for others.

Plus, as much as I don't relate or understand it, some people enjoy life and being here, so it would be terrible to force them to leave, just like it's terrible to force us to stay just to suffer.

 

[Smart No More]

You don't have to be evil for your actions to be evil. Many an atrocity has been born from good intentions.

Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water!

Genocide is not an altruistic occupation. Its just as cock eyed as the fixers mentality.

Think about it...... would you abolish water incase people occasionally drowned?

Killing with kindness is still immoral.
You claim to believe in hell. In murdering everyone you're just sending them there quicker. It's idiotic!

 

[Forever Sleep]

Honestly, I do believe this world would be better off without the human race leeching off of it. I think we do more damage than good. Plus, the 'good' we do is usually only for our own benefit- or to 'right a wrong' that we did in the first place.

That said- given the opportunity to wipe out all human life (even peacefully), I'm not sure I could do it. I wonder if you REALLY could? Stood in front of 'the button'- would you REALLY press it knowing that you were murdering billions? Some of us would be grateful to not have to ctb ourselves of course but I imagine the majority of our race wants to survive.

 

[AmDead]

I want to destroy the world. No humans=no suffering/grief/evil/everything bad. Extinction of mankind would be a favour to humanity. Even those who want to live cant be mad or regret or grieve after they're dead.

 

[eldiablo666]

You don't have to be evil for your actions to be evil. Many an atrocity has been born from good intentions.

Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water!

Genocide is not an altruistic occupation. Its just as cock eyed as the fixers mentality.

Think about it...... would you abolish water incase people occasionally drowned?

Killing with kindness is still immoral.
You claim to believe in hell. In murdering everyone you're just sending them there quicker. It's idiotic!

Honestly as crazy as it may sound, from the sheer amount of experience I've gathered being alive I wouldn't say it's immoral anymore.

 

[sleeps]

while i do think that ending the human race would be a good thing in terms of reducing the overall amount of suffering in the universe, i very much don't think its my decision to make. i'd just want a quick painless death to be easily accessible to anyone who decides they want it.

 

[piger]

I consider myself a piece of shit, but humanity is an even greater piece of shit flooded with degeneracy and corruption. It disgusts and frustrates me. We only keep digging ourselves a deeper hole. I would gladly end the world given the chance. Everyone deserves death, even me.

 

[Le_Dauphin]

If people have put you in a situation in which you defy your own survival instinct to the point of wanting to die, it is only normal However, luckier people on this forum will condemn you. It is hard to keep decency, compassion and empathy when people screw you over just enough. There's not much rationality or common sense when there's true will and necessity to suicide.

 

[Smart No More]

A section of humanity is shit, not all of it. There are good, decent people out there. We can make observations and point fingers but it is not for us to act as judge and juror. What people are advocating for is murder and genocide. I'm pretty long in the tooth myself and witness a lot that makes me disgusted by humanity amd I have been vocal about that but there is absolutely no justifying a blanket kull. I can't even believe this needs saying!

 

[Darkover]

the whole universe should be destroyed imo so there can be nothing to hurt you, the universe shouldent of existed in the first place there should just be nothing

 

[gomenasai]

It's totally understandable. The human world is terrible, made of suffering, violence and pain. I wish I never existed, I have no place in this world, I never had and I never will. I cannot accept living in this world. If tomorrow, one or more nuclear bombs hit the planet and everything was destroyed, I would be indifferent. It would even suit me if the bomb were dropped on my house. Basically whether the human being disappears or not, it has no importance, impact in the universe. This, however, would make the suffering and violence disappear. Human beings are profoundly evil and their extinction would not be a bad thing (in my opinion).

However, I also hate the animal world, life in general. For me life should not exist in the universe, I find planets without any form of life much more grandiose. When I look at them, I tell myself that they look so peaceful: there is no war, no living being who suffers. Simply calm, serenity and eternity.

I couldn't agree more, it's like I'm reading my own post.

 

[StrangeAndDeath]

Honestly, I do believe this world would be better off without the human race leeching off of it. I think we do more damage than good. Plus, the 'good' we do is usually only for our own benefit- or to 'right a wrong' that we did in the first place.

That said- given the opportunity to wipe out all human life (even peacefully), I'm not sure I could do it. I wonder if you REALLY could? Stood in front of 'the button'- would you REALLY press it knowing that you were murdering billions? Some of us would be grateful to not have to ctb ourselves of course but I imagine the majority of our race wants to survive.

A section of humanity is shit, not all of it. There are good, decent people out there. We can make observations and point fingers but it is not for us to act as judge and juror. What people are advocating for is murder and genocide. I'm pretty long in the tooth myself and witness a lot that makes me disgusted by humanity amd I have been vocal about that but there is absolutely no justifying a blanket kull. I can't even believe this needs saying!

I also don't believe in making decisions for people. I don't even think of killing anyone that's already alive. But people keep birthing and keep bringing more suffering into this universe. And it's not just humans. All life is appalling to me.

But the chances that I'll get even close to deleting life are really slim in any case. I'll probably even ctb before then

You don't have to be evil for your actions to be evil. Many an atrocity has been born from good intentions.

Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water!

Genocide is not an altruistic occupation. Its just as cock eyed as the fixers mentality.

Think about it...... would you abolish water incase people occasionally drowned?

Killing with kindness is still immoral.
You claim to believe in hell. In murdering everyone you're just sending them there quicker. It's idiotic!

Everyone ends up in hell either way. I'll just speeding up the process and ending production

 

[Ligottian]

This post reminds me of a cartoon I once saw. A little girl is praying on her knees beside her bed. "Please, God. Make everyone die".

 

[FuneralCry]

The only thing that I really want is for me to be finally free from this world as if I was gone then I wouldn't have to experience anything and I would finally be at permanent rest. The world would end for me. Whatever happens in this world after I'm gone could never be my concern as I won't exist at that point.

But I do believe that in general, the concept of life is a cruel, tragic and unnecessary mistake. The existence of life is tragic as there is too much unnecessary suffering in this world. Creating life means creating endless problems and pain that will inevitably be experienced and inflicted on to other beings. This world is filled with so much cruelty and it would be ideal if people did not procreate. Those that never exist never suffer, but the problem is that many people continue to deny the true horrifying nature of existence and bring life here. Life shouldn't have been a thing in the first place. There is no real value or benefit to being alive, only ways in which to suffer more.

My personal belief is that non existence is always preferable to being alive, but it's so unfair how we are denied peaceful methods if we wish to leave. We at least deserve that choice, the thing that is really wrong is how suicide is so stigmatised.

 

[StrangeAndDeath]

The only thing that I really want is for me to be finally free from this world as if I was gone then I wouldn't have to experience anything and I would finally be at permanent rest. The world would end for me. Whatever happens in this world after I'm gone could never be my concern as I won't exist at that point.

But I do believe that in general, the concept of life is a cruel, tragic and unnecessary mistake. The existence of life is tragic as there is too much unnecessary suffering in this world. Creating life means creating endless problems and pain that will inevitably be experienced and inflicted on to other beings. This world is filled with so much cruelty and it would be ideal if people did not procreate. Those that never exist never suffer, but the problem is that many people continue to deny the true horrifying nature of existence and bring life here. Life shouldn't have been a thing in the first place. There is no real value or benefit to being alive, only ways in which to suffer more.

My personal belief is that non existence is always preferable to being alive, but it's so unfair how we are denied peaceful methods if we wish to leave. We at least deserve that choice, the thing that is really wrong is how suicide is so stigmatised.

You are absolutely right. For a civilization that favors the right to self determination, it is ironic that we still hold them to a contract that they didn't even consent to

 

[Forever Sleep]

This post reminds me of a cartoon I once saw. A little girl is praying on her knees beside her bed. "Please, God. Make everyone die".

She'll get her wish at least sooner or later...

 

[Musichater]

There are people who enjoy their lives. As much as I envy them, it feels wrong to take it from them. So, no, I wouldn't go all villain mode even if I were given some godly power that enables me to destroy the world.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Not at all. Die and let live.

 

[makethepainstop]

It might have taken millions of years for us to evolve, let's don't waste the species efforts. I would not want to end the world, I want to end ME!

 

[DeadButDreaming]

I wouldn't mind if you destroyed the world and/or universe.

 

[Smart No More]

I also don't believe in making decisions for people. I don't even think of killing anyone that's already alive. But people keep birthing and keep bringing more suffering into this universe. And it's not just humans. All life is appalling to me.

But the chances that I'll get even close to deleting life are really slim in any case. I'll probably even ctb before then

Everyone ends up in hell either way. I'll just speeding up the process and ending production

So instead of suffering on earth everyone's suffering should be made worse and transferred to hell? Give your head a wobble!

 

[Harasaki]

I don't think you're evil. You're probably just an anti-natalist, you should read the book "Better never to have been" by David Benatar, I think he is the most famous anti-natalist

Basicaly although for some people once they are born it might be worth it to keep living since suicide adds to the suffering in the world, it is even better if they had never existed in the first place, most people will think this is stupid but it is very logical, if you've never existed, you are not really missing out on anything that you might think is good, also you can't suffer, it's a neutral state, nor good or bad.

So if I had a button that would wipe humanity out? It'd probably be tempting but I wouldn't press it.

But if I has a button that would make it impossible for animals to breed? I'd smash that mf, suffering is intrinsic to sencient life, there should be only plants and bacteria in this planet

 

[Codependent loner]

There is a lot to unpack here…I'm not the one to do it. however if you could kill all humans… likely other Species would also be harmed. I draw any line at animals dying.

 

[Astral Storm]

Life itself is a heinous, disgusting, parasitic, and predatory system that keeps replicating cruelty and violence. It's a literal disease. All of life and existence is freaking madness and a slaughterhouse.

It's obviously not a condition worth respecting, following, glorifying, and perpetuating at all. There's no moral, ethical, or good way to live as harm is inherent to existence. Existence itself is immoral. The basic state is an endless struggle for nothing. The inherent cruelty and violence in the world is never acceptable or justifiable, even if it had any meaning. Replicating and perpetuating this process is the most heinous thing ever.

I would do it, but I wouldn't be proud of it. Isn't continuing billion years of torment just as morally wrong as well? The bottom line is that there are no genuine moral choices. There are only immoral choices that include a greater and a lesser evil. In this way, ending life once and for all is a lesser evil than allowing brutal torture to continue without end.

 

[StrangeAndDeath]

So instead of suffering on earth everyone's suffering should be made worse and transferred to hell? Give your head a wobble!

They End up there regardless. All I would be doing is stopping them from procreating

There is a lot to unpack here…I'm not the one to do it. however if you could kill all humans… likely other Species would also be harmed. I draw any line at animals dying.

I get your point. I don't want to hurt any living thing. Sentient or not. But the animals are in the same boat as we are. It's a controversial topics but my preference is to end them too if it can be done very quickly and painless

Life itself is a heinous, disgusting, parasitic, and predatory system that keeps replicating cruelty and violence. It's a literal disease. All of life and existence is freaking madness and a slaughterhouse.

It's obviously not a condition worth respecting, following, glorifying, and perpetuating at all. There's no moral, ethical, or good way to live as harm is inherent to existence. Existence itself is immoral. The basic state is an endless struggle for nothing. The inherent cruelty and violence in the world is never acceptable or justifiable, even if it had any meaning. Replicating and perpetuating this process is the most heinous thing ever.

I would do it, but I wouldn't be proud of it. Isn't continuing billion years of torment just as morally wrong as well? The bottom line is that there are no genuine moral choices. There are only immoral choices that include a greater and a lesser evil. In this way, ending life once and for all is a lesser evil than allowing brutal torture to continue without end.

Yes. It hurts my soul to think of it

I don't think you're evil. You're probably just an anti-natalist, you should read the book "Better never to have been" by David Benatar, I think he is the most famous anti-natalist

Basicaly although for some people once they are born it might be worth it to keep living since suicide adds to the suffering in the world, it is even better if they had never existed in the first place, most people will think this is stupid but it is very logical, if you've never existed, you are not really missing out on anything that you might think is good, also you can't suffer, it's a neutral state, nor good or bad.

So if I had a button that would wipe humanity out? It'd probably be tempting but I wouldn't press it.

But if I has a button that would make it impossible for animals to breed? I'd smash that mf, suffering is intrinsic to sencient life, there should be only plants and bacteria in this planet

I am an antinatalist. And I've also heard of Benatar's book but I haven't read it.

As for your talk of plants, I agree with you for the most part. But we have to understand that even plant life has the potential of developing sentience somewhere along the line

 

[HelloIMustBeGoing]

No, I have not had any genocidal thoughts.