Does anyone else want to die because they’re too genetically flawed to be truly loved by a woman?

[hermestrimegistus]

Ahh. All the people in here telling tall tales. You can talk all you want about liking someone's personality. But you can't fuck personality. Otherwise you'd be fucking your friends. This is coming from an ugly girl. I can accept who I am.

I think people can find unconventional looking people attractive but let's be honest with ourselves. Pretty privilege exists. The conventional attractive are at the top of the pyramid and can fuck and get into a relationship with anyone they want.

Us uglies never had a chance. The only wya you're getting laid or god forbid into a relationship, is by finding someone on your level. And thats impossible. Because most of us are too deluded and trying to get someone from the top of the proverbial food chain. Hot people don't want us uglies. They want hot little girls who model on instagram.

If you want someone to find you attractive based on your personality, you, in turn, have to do the same.

I've seen a lot of internet dudes talk about hypergamy in women, but lets be honest, it absolutely goes both ways. Its a hard knock life for us uglies. If you truly believe in being attracted to someone's personality, find someone you actually like beyond their flesh. It's easier said than done. But you're gonna spend most of your time alone in the process. Its really a matter of what you value more. Genuine companionship, or someone shiny you can show off. Take your pick

 

[Jinxyxx]

This is so sad and very true. The reality we live in is so cruel.
I myself am not bad looking but im short af and that reason alone is enough to get made fun of and rejected so extremely often. It maybe sounds weird to some people but wanting to cbt cause of a reason like that is completely valid and makes sense. Fuck this place man

 

[D!psh!tMcgee]

I obviously have more reasons than that for why I want to die. But this is one of the major ones. Probably number one if I'm being honest.

I was born an ugly and short male, life simply isn't worth living as an ugly short guy. Nobody respects you or cares about you, or takes you seriously.

And most women don't wanna date you or have sex with you. And the ones who do date you, they can easily replace you with a better looking guy. You will likely be forced to settle, if you get "lucky".

Ugly men are destined to be alone or date someone they won't be happy with and it's just very disheartening.

Why bother trying at life when I know that life is luck based and I drew a bad card. Life is a tall white man's game.

Homie i look like i've been shot with birdshot (partially cause i have) and i've managed to date a few deferent people just make it so they like you for other aspects eg my current bf loves me cause i'm a smooth talker but ya don't need that either most people just want a guy who won't screw them over or abuse em also trust me being alone is better some times cause people are naturally untrustworthy and most people will happily screw you over just cause they can

 

[ropearoundatree]

Sometimes, I have also found... that just by, "lowering your standards" doesn't automatically equate to an increase in desirability. As they, too, obviously - have 'standards!' (which is cool, by the way!)

 

[movinout17]

In terms of long term relationship, yes. but if you are an individual lower on the scale of attractiveness, the issue becomes getting into a relationship, because a high percentage of people won't even give you a shot.

If I could choose between someone who had a pretty face but had weird, creepy and awkward personality, i would rather be someone who's not good looking but have charismatic and interesting personality.

The superficial visual stuff like fitness and style can be worked on easily imo.

 

[Kattt]

Girls might be interested in those superficial aspects, such as height and appearance, but a woman knows that a successful relationship requires a lot more and the qualities that you mentioned are secondary.
I can guarantee you that plenty of short, conventionally less than "good looking" guys have great relationships with wonderful women. In fact, often what you might consider to be conventional good looks don't even make the list of traits that matter to a female. Firstly because it's indicative of vanity, which is often a massive turn off. I know I wouldn't want somebody who is that self obsessed.
Confidence, intelligence, compassion and the ability to make people laugh, to laugh at themselves and to laugh in general are far more important characteristics when considering a relationship that is anything but transient. Looks fade. But a funny, kind, caring and interesting person who genuinely wants to share your happiness is priceless.
The toxic incel ideology poisons the minds of (mostly) young men, to believe this nonsense, when it's untrue. What IS a massive turn off for pretty much all females is the self pitying, twisted, mysogonistic, entitled attitude that consumes these people.

 

[PairOfAirJordan1’s]

If I could choose between someone who had a pretty face but had weird, creepy and awkward personality, i would rather be someone who's not good looking but have charismatic and interesting personality.

The superficial visual stuff like fitness and style can be worked on easily imo.

I'm sure most people would want their partner to have a good personality (not sure who wouldn't) but you are not everyone. A lot of people really do care that much about looks

 

[Tobacco]

I have a few mental health diagnoses and having a just average face doesn't help anything in wanting to have a deep relationship with someone. I have like only two friends and one of them is a cousin.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Would you guys take an ugly woman? An obese one? Just wondering. Because there are an equal number of physically unattractive women as there are men.

Or do you imagine all women to look like cam girls and tictoc girls?

The ugliest man I've ever seen was also one of the most popular with women, his personality did it.

This is what troubles me. Even if they would- would they see that as settling for less? As the OP puts it- being forced to date someone 'they won't be happy with'. In which case- will they just lead them on and then, break their heart? Nice.

Not to say women don't do that kind of thing too but yeah- sometimes I kind of hope these guys don't 'settle' for 'less' (or- equal- sorry but why does either gender feel entitled to someone better than themselves?!!)

From my own witnessed experience though- become rich if a model girlfriend/wife is what you want. I know plenty of short, not all that attractive men with drop dead gorgeous women but- they have money. Women are shallow too. Money makes up for looks for some it seems.

I guess the next thing will be short men don't get any breaks in life. That's not true in all cases though. Obviously, talent in something, confidence and humour probably helps though. Some of those might be more aquirable than others I suppose though.

 

[SexyIncél]

This is what troubles me. Even if they would- would they see that as settling for less? As the OP puts it- being forced to date someone 'they won't be happy with'. In which case- will they just lead them on and then, break their heart? Nice.

Not to say women don't do that kind of thing too but yeah- sometimes I kind of hope these guys don't 'settle' for 'less' (or- equal- sorry but why does either gender feel entitled to someone better than themselves?!!)

Well yeah, that's one of the many difficulties. One suicidally heartbroken woman recently asked me to help her politely reject a good-looking guy because he's younger. We're all psychologically retarded or something. Like our psychologies weren't made for rational life

 

[casual_existence]

People like to pretend that they're oh so much better than animals. That we somehow are very special with our phones, tablets, values and rules. But we're not, not even close. We want and when we don't get what we want we lash out or run away. You know. Fight, Flight or whatever the fuck the other one was.
Now imagine this but directed at yourself. In other words there's 'two' sides to your mind. The side that likes to pretend and the side that actually is. You get rejected once or you fail at something once. Just once and you generalize to EVERYTHING as if that makes any sense! You run away from it all. Or you fight everything (the playboys but the shitty kind).
Worst part is that the animal side is the one that runs the show. It's the one that not only directs your actions but your thoughts too.
This wouldn't be so bad if somehow we could control our animal side but we can't. We can only sorta coax it to do something. But again that side controls EVERYTHING so good luck.
Even worse is that our brain actively tries to predict and kill any thought or action that we might take that won't lead to a good thing or that will lead to a bad thing. Notice how I separated those two because it's absolutely important. Something that COULD lead to a bad thing is thinking that it's TOTALLY worth talking to that good looking man or good looking woman. Your brain will straight up murder that thought before you even think it.
This wouldn't be so bad if it only lead to bad outcome to you but instead of doing the sensible thing and not talk to them and be done at that you will (one potential explanation) instead EXPECT or even DEMAND attention from them without being aware of that and if you don't get that then FUCK that person. Except you're a rational totally educated person right? I mean you probably went to school. You can't think that so instead you rationalize to nobody would want to date me because I'm ugly. Notice how you might not think 'oh nobody wants to date me because I smell like shit' or 'nobody wants to date me because my index finger is at a weird angle'.
I could get deeper into this but I don't want to write more stuff. Trust me or don't I don't care about you you're not nearly as special as you may think you are. Like there's loads of ugly people. Inside, outside doesn't matter. You gotta go through all the rough until you find a diamond. Or a pretty piece of glass. Or an interesting looking rock. Or attain big brain status and love the dirt for the dirt is also beautiful. Just ask soil scientists.

The first couple of minutes of this video perfectly encapsulates what I'm trying to get across. The owners are perfectly fine serving crap and when Gordon Ramsay tells the owners to go and apologize to the guests for serving that, the guy instead says that Ramsay is shutting it down. The lady doesn't even bother.

 

[Tears in Rain]

I remember coming across a thread where a guy said he wanted to ctb because he's short, and I was kinda surprised given that there are obviously a lot of short women too. But then he said that short women, like non-short women, only want to date taller men! Surely that can't always be the case?

While I agree that looks play a big role in attracting someone, it becomes less important as you get older.

 

[Groundhog_Day]

I'm hideous, but I think my extreme anxiety and awkwardness has been more off putting tbh. I think confidence, intelligence and passion for life is more important. I have none of these.

The thing I'll never understand is blaming others. For me it's just randomly getting bad genetics, and I have zero animosity towards women for finding me unattractive.