EmptyBottle

EmptyBottle

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But why does it need to be a singular approach?

Surely a well run society can do both?

Make suicide less stigmatised, there by not isolating or ostracising suicidal people. Making it a less arduous road to travel for suffering people. Stop treating suicidality like leprosy or some other contagious disease that you don't want others to catch basically…

But also put more effort/resources/ideas into fixing the broken parts of society that might make people consider ctb?

It's an absurd situation, that my dog has more of a right to a safe peaceful and civilised death than I do…

I don't see how people can claim that the status quo in society, is either fair or logical.
Indeed....ur suggestion can also make it easier for those who want help to get help.

while the bus may be contagious (putting a whole new spin on one-way public transport :D), hiding the fact that it exists only pushes it underground.

Definitely, Euthanasia seems super easy for animals... and identifying as an animal doesn't really work in the vet... coz they have to feel the leg to give the injection and might notice the fake animal suit then, if not earlier.

And yep, this world is annoyingly unfair... hopefully the afterlife is quite fair... and hopefully the world gets closer and closer to fairness.
 
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rs929

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Dec 18, 2020
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I've heard the "those who actually want to kill themselves just do it" line in real life, but never expected to read it on SaSu.
 
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Beer

Beer

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Dec 14, 2021
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No.

I don't think suicide is way out of financial and similar troubles. And should not be used for that kind of problems
bit strange to have this opinion as a member of this forum
 
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magsx1

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Dec 26, 2025
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I think it sucks that if it was normalised we'd have humane, peaceful methods to pass on from this world be readily accessible to people but because it's taboo and some religions call it a sin now people are seeking ways to do it as painfully and with suffering as possible. Like I can guarantee you that the people who kill themselves don't want to traumatise the response team that comes over to collect their bodies but can you imagine that some serial killers and the most depraved individuals in the states get a really peaceful death via legal injection with a and a nice ass last meal to boot while those who want to quietly and peacefully CTB have to resort to the most painful methods and the possibility of being caught/saved, worsening your quality of life?

Ah man. Happy new year everyone!
 
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catsalvation

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Sep 13, 2025
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Yeah... While the majority of people says they don't understand suicide, I never understood what keeps certain people alive. I mean people who's lives is just endless humiliation and suffering. But it clearly shows the resilience and life instinct (or fear of death) most people have. So I don't think more acceptance would lead to significantly more suicide... It'd just mean that whom decide to do it, could do with more dignity and less judgement and suffering... I experienced that society won't help with anything, but it doesn't let us go peacefully either... Sometimes I think they just want to keep us alive in order to have enough slaves to keep up the system, pay taxes etc...
 
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ChamberOfEchoes

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Sep 8, 2025
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The state has extremely strong interests in presenting itself as pro life, and there is nothing human in this stance, because it is not born of empathy or care but of structural calculation; it does not act out of philanthropy or a supposed defense of life as such, but to preserve order, productivity, and the continuity of the system, and suicide by its very nature represents a radical subtraction from every form of control, a definitive escape that cannot be recovered or reintegrated; for this reason it is surrounded by a narrative of terror, stigmatized as madness, guilt, or deviance, pathologized until it becomes unspeakable, while the rhetoric of prevention serves above all to keep bodies within the social and economic circuit, to prevent the possibility of exit from being perceived as real and thinkable; believing that any form of liberalization would automatically produce greater balance or a healthier society means failing to understand that power does not fear an excess of death but the loss of its grip, and that the sacralization of life is merely a linguistic mask behind which hides a cold and impersonal necessity: not to save the individual, but to prevent them from withdrawing, because a life that can truly choose to leave is a life that can no longer be governed.

If a substance like Nembutal were freely available, the world would not collapse because people would choose en masse to die, but because the invisible premise on which the entire social order rests would disappear, namely the practical impossibility of exit; today life is compulsory not because of an intrinsic value but because the alternative is made remote, terrifying, medicalized, and moralized, and this enforced distance allows the state to present permanence as choice when it is in fact coercion; making exit accessible would strip life of its character as debt, break the silent blackmail that turns existence into obligation, and expose pro life rhetoric as pure consensus engineering rather than care for the human; power survives not because life is loved but because it cannot be left, and the moment exit becomes concrete, simple, and no longer terrorized, every imposed labor loses its moral justification, every enforced suffering reveals its arbitrary face, every promise of the future shows itself as mere deferral; this is why such a possibility is unthinkable for the system, not because it would kill individuals, but because it would kill the monopoly of meaning, and a world in which staying is truly a choice is a world that can no longer be governed by fear.
 
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OzymandiAsh

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Nov 6, 2025
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I kinda see both sides of the debate here. On the one hand, I sympathise with the sentiment that people who have suffered exceptionally painful and difficult lives (and with long clinical histories already), shouldn't really be forced to make a difficult and painful decision to end their lives in a difficult and painful way. If life is already terrible enough, why does death have to be? Why can't death, at least, be without difficulty and pain?

But also if means were more readily available, impulsive suicides would increase, and a state-provided euthanasia option would be very difficult to fully regulate.
 
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