By the way OP, there is a "recovery" section on here which is to support people who are trying to improve their lives and see potential for that to happen. I think the hopeful words to carry on living belong in there, as that type of thing can be very invalidating and dismissive to those who are seriously considering suicide. I believe that in the suicide discussion people wish to have their feelings validated and have their decisions supported and maybe communicate with like minded people. Some people just want a place to vent as well, and discuss the subject of suicide which they cannot do elsewhere. This is the only place where we can be open about our wish to die, and I think that if people wanted invalidating platitudes encouraging them to carry on living then they would go anywhere else, as they will receive that pretty much anywhere in this pro life society. In the suicide discussion the focus is on respecting people's decisions and not pushing life valuing statements onto people. Not everyone values life and I believe that so many of us come here for somewhere to be honest about how much we hate existing without all of the forced positivity and disrespectful unsolicited "advice".
Anyway, in my case there really isn't much of a "story", basically I despise the very nature of existence and I've never wished to be here but sadly I still am. I believe that existence is absolutely not worth enduring and I don't wish to suffer in any way, so therefore as a result of this I am suicidal. The only thing that comforts me is the thought of permanent non existence, where I will finally be free from this hellish world. I believe that those who die are very fortunate.
Judging by your first paragraph, I'm going to go the safe route and say you are DNS. I apologize if I said anything wrong, but I don't think I did. I just want to learn peoples' stories and become better because of it. As for not putting this in Recovery, you are absolutely right. I could have done that instead, I suppose.
But I feel like in this section of the forum people would typically be more pessimistic about their outlook and some even having too much self hatred to actively seek out an attempt at recovery even when the possibilities are right there. There is always the chance of reconsideration; and there are escapes that don't resort to suicide.
If you put DNS in front of your post I won't give you words of support or advice. I already have some posts here that appreciate my positivity, too! That makes me happy, truly. I don't consider this platitudes or 'toxic positivity'. I just want to learn whilst also being supportive of an individual's choice. I don't like the bipartisan thought process of "put pro-life positivity and pro-choice positivity in separate sections". All it takes is thoughtful, honest discussion. Thank you for telling me how this part of the forum works. I appreciate it.
I really wish I had another way of thinking so I wouldn't see the world as I do now. We live to reproduce, just as any other being on this planet. That's how life works and there's no other meaning even if you wanted to make one yourself. Then we die, the world would be as if we never existed and the ones that mourned us will die too, deleting every memory of us. And even if by pure luck/hardwork you manage to get into the history books, the humanity will end someday. There's no escape from being completely forgotten. Every memory of us, every thing we achieved, every trace of our existence will be wiped out of reality no matter what. I hoped I could've found a way to live my life to the fullest, set my own personal goals and just be happy during the short time I have on this planet so at least I make something out of what the universe gave me, but I just can't. I lost people I loved, I have a horrible abusive father that beat me up for the smallest things that also fought with my mother continuously, but for f knows reason they wouldn't divorce. He couldn't stop saying how much of a failure I am even though he was and still is working illegally for 200$ a month, beat me up countless times, sending me to the clinic, and one time even tried to drag me to do a DNA test to prove that I'm not his son. The worst part is that I still have some good memories with him and I don't know how to feel towards him. The person I care about the most, my mother, is working in another country for financial reasons and didn't see her for over 6 years. The only way I contact her is through the phone and I hate it. I want to hug her so bad. I also have no friends, I'm poor, went from top students in my city to the lower end and other things that I'm not comfortable to talk about. I know my situation is nothing compared to what others go through but because of all this, my mental health suffered. Already tried 2 times to end myself with well set up methods, but I was too much of a coward to get the job done. Currently, my only way to cope is through the gym and alcohol. I have nobody to talk to about my problems, so I came here with the hope of finding a way to kill myself while being at ease with death, to which I tend to, or at least live a decent life. In other words, to find my path.
Also, I would like to mention that you seem like a very happy and optimistic person. Please never change!
First of all, thank you for telling me about yourself. I'm glad that you told me. Judging by what you said, you are afraid of true death. I don't want to sound too philosophical or 'wise' or anything, but to summarize that concept there is a saying:
"There are two deaths. One where your heart stops beating, and one where you are thought of for the last time."
At least, I think that's how it goes. It's not exactly verbatim. Regardless, I understand what you are trying to say. We're going to inevitably die, and that includes our loved ones. Nothing can change this. Dealing with our mortality is something that all of us will eventually have to come to terms with. Going your own way and C(ing)TB certainly gives you that freedom of choice. The freedom to choose is a needed one. That being said, coming from a son that went through abuse from their father myself, the things you said made me hurt. Not you, but like, it's just painful to go through that experience and sometimes it's just as painful remembering, if not worse. You fill yourself with regret that drives you to the breaking point, and the further you down-spiral the further you take drastic measures. It happened with my Aunt when she couldn't pay off her credit card debt, and it happened with my one of my best friends when a friend of her own died, several years ago. I have regrets, too. I could have done better, but it's impossible to know for sure when someone you care about is going to die.
With all of that said, I want to tell you how important it is to cherish those you care about, because like you said, they won't be around forever. And neither will you. Leaving your mark on the world is easier than you think, you just have to have the right mindset to understand that. Not to say that the things you are saying are wrong, but wouldn't it be true to say that public servants make a lasting effect on this world? Being remembered for decades to come is another goal altogether. Lots of us fantasize about being famous. Regrettably, some even fantasize about being infamous. Regardless of which path someone takes, 99 times out of 100 they chose that path.
I hope I'm not being overzealous or giving you 'toxic positivity', but I'm certain that you can become better with just some time and effort. Making friends is a key part of that, too. Do you maybe want to share discord tags, if you have discord? I would like to be one of your friends if that isn't too much to put on you. I don't know how PMing works but I should certainly look into that, haha.
I don't mean to sound like a typical therapist with the things I'm saying, since I know most people here don't care for that. I'm just a guy that wants to help. If I make things worse for you, please tell me. In the end it is your choice, but there are some choices people can't take back. I hope you take these words to heart, because I think your life can and will improve with time. Thank you for talking to me, Funeral.
I first kind of knew I wasn't normal around when I was 10, but I really started to want to ctb when I was 11 or 12, when I realized I was LGBT and that my highly religious, conservative area and family wouldn't be accepting of it... I had my first attempt around then, and things kind of spiraled from there, ehehe. I gained a SH addiction I can't live without, I discovered I was just one of the alters in a system rather than being the singular person in this body, I became bulimic to try to control my weight, I had a psychotic break in highschool that led to me being seen as a freak once people found out about it and my SH addiction. I was told I was a monster, a freak, and some other names that I really don't want to repeat because they're just really, really upsetting... People started avoiding me, and I lost all of my irl friends... Once highschool ended I just got worse and worse, developing an intense agoraphobia and a hatred of people looking at me... I'm really only still alive because my online friends and the family I live with want me alive, and I'd be traumatizing them if I ever did ctb... I still really hope to one day, but... For now I exist for their comfort, ehehe.
I'm glad you aren't ending your life right away, and it makes me happy that you thought about those you care about before C(ing)TB. Thank you for telling me your story. Living with hateful parents certainly is a fucking pain, right? I'm a closeted bisexual even today; I could never tell anybody. Not because I'm necessarily uncomfortable with the coming out part, but more-so the sexuality part. It just doesn't seem appropriate for me to talk about my sexuality like that. I can just live my life without caring for coming out, and if they find out they find out. Also, a secret between you and me, I actually haven't had an IRL friend since the 1st grade. Crazy, right? It's been more than a decade since then.
As for you being one of your alters, I have lots of experience with people with DID! In fact, my girlfriend has DID! For privacy I won't speak of her real names but rather her initials. She has a high amount of control, but sometimes can't help but space out and disassociate. Mostly she's K but sometimes she's W, R, L, and several more, although they typically don't take control often. I was also a volunteer counselor for a time and talked to several people with DID, so I'd like to think I have some good second and third hand experience.
Enough about me, though. Some people in society, and I assume this includes your parents, don't believe in the concept of 'online friends'. You should be prepared for people to not understand. It's been hard for you, I can see that. I wish I could give you a hug through this screen.
Being deprived of love is the fucking worst. Most of my suicidal experiences have been because of the loss of a loved one in one way shape or form, so I have first hand experience. That being said, I wouldn't mind being your friend. I limit who I say this to because I believe in quality over quantity, meaning I can't just make 70 friends and expect to be able to have quality relationships with them when I barely would have time to talk to most of them.
And if you don't want to be friends, that's okay too! I'm glad you even told me about yourself. I appreciate what you told me. Thank you for taking your time to talk to a stranger like me. I'd love to talk more!
Ngl idk where to even begin. Abridged version of my life:
Childhood truama. abusive dad, autism and school didnt mix either. at 13 i abandoned him and never saw him again. 14 and i had a bunch of CSA trauma. Easily over... 20+ people? also almost got kidnapped 3 times. got bullied in high school also.
At 16 i got with a 29 year old in a "relationship" and no one seemed to care about the age difference. She taught me about self harm. stealing. etc. thankfully I haven't done anything illegal but. yeah. i was very suicidal at 17. i found the PPH, made plans, didnt do anything, and left her at 18 due to some... abusive tendencies she had.
19, joined a cult. left the same year. got into awful relationships. got cheated on twice. one behind my back for 3m, one for 2y. got a stalker at 21. and inbetween all of this, i was actively, intentionally making my mental health worse to try and feel better somehow. december of 2021 started to finally heal, got knocked down by the pandemic hitting where i live and sending me to be stuck inside out of fear. and now i have a wonderful partner who i, currently, am trying to be alive for.
But its this constant conflict. I only want to be alive for their sake, not my own. and... that's only become a recent thing. i was healing. I'm not anymore. I actively want to get worse to push myself over the edge, and yet, I don't tip over for their sake.
This is only scratching the surface of course. these are just the main things that come to mind. is it any fucking wonder that i want to CTB? I've been failed in so, so so so so many aspects of my life.
Thank you for telling me about yourself. It's normal to live for others. In fact, that's one of the most common reasons for living on in today's world. We have people we care about, and more often than not those people are others, and sadly that sometimes doesn't include ourselves.
Being given failure throughout life is bound to make anyone feel this way. You're not alone in that thought process; I've made so many mistakes that I can't take back. I wasn't the best person in my past. I cheated on my previous SO because of some stupid reason like 'they weren't giving me enough attention'. I paid the price for it. I also drove friends away for a time, secretly wanting to be some sort of prince in distress. I hoped they would stay anyway and tell me they care, but in the end it was just me being greedy for attention. I can't take those mistakes back because they're long gone. And the worst part is, for me, that I deserve those failures. Knowing I was the one in the wrong made me constantly regret my choices. Even today. A day doesn't go by where I have a regret weighing on me.
What's unjust is the fact that your failures were given to you time and time again. It bombards your self esteem and makes you start to overthink. On one hand, it wasn't right for you to be let down several times like that. You did nothing wrong, as far as I am aware. On the other hand, I want you to know that you should at least take some comfort in the fact that you are not to blame. It's not your fault, and thinking it is when you were the one who was wronged is common with victims. There are ups and downs, but I hope you take some positivity out of your life, even when there are things that go wrong.
I don't know if you told your partner about all of the things you've told me here, but it seems like they care about you judging by how to describe them. That constant conflict of feeling like you're shallow for living for them is something I've felt for a while too. I live for my partner, and I'd die for her too. Your partner is someone worth protecting. Worth loving. I'm glad you have them in your life, and I'd love to hear more about why you love them!
I have a whole thread about my story you can check it out here if you want :)
Thread 'Why tf am I still here'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/why-tf-am-i-still-here.102360/
Thanks! I'll take a look.
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