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Flippy

Felis Sapien
Jan 5, 2020
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I agree, though the definition of pushing back seems to be set at a low threshold. Even expressing a slight opposing view seems to be twisted out of proportion! It smacks of desperation. The other consequence to doing this is that if you struggle to assert yourself it teaches people that even their minimal attempt to defend themselves is unacceptably aggressive! Gaslighting again I suppose but it keeps us afraid of defending ourselves.

BPD is bad enough for people who genuinely suffer from it. It takes a special kind of fiend to literally use the same tactics their abusers used when they have made the leap of disclosing their trauma. It's like rescuing an animal for the soul purpose of committing the same abuse because it's been nicely softened up!

I've noticed this trend of "compliance" based diagnosis. Several people I know or know of have had their world's turned upside down when their bipolar diagnosis becomes BPD because they were suffering a relapse. Because as we all know people with bipolar are never anything but the bench mark of perfect mental health.

I think the behaviour towards people with BPD is disgraceful. I've heard of people being forced to sign contracts stating that if they harm themselves they will be refused hospital treatment. Yeah that sounds compassionate, let them bleed out so they "learn their lesson". I suspect this is why patients find themselves inexplicably assigned this diagnosis. They can impose this sort of horror on them rather than actually doing the work they claim makes them so "heroic".

I'm sorry that your family seem to want to use these diagnoses against you and are in cahoots with the psychiatrists :-( It is even worse when instead of trying to listen they add to the misery. My mother used to threaten me with all kinds of horrors when I displayed symptoms of (what I understood later to be) psychosis. This only made me find ways of hiding just how unwell I was. I don't know if it would have ultimately made any difference to how things worked out.

I found out that my mother was diagnosed with a personality disorder when I was a kid. What did the Saint of a doctor do? Help her? Refer her to a specialist? Offer her medication? Of course not, he sent her back to her kids to wreak havoc. If she was that unwell she needed help. Instead we bore the brunt of her distress. Maybe the threats she made were her maladaptive way of trying to protect me from these "professionals"?

I don't know how they can keep accepting payment for their "work".
 
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yellowjasmine88

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severe iatrogenic injury along with Medical PTSD and psychiatric abuse, is the reason I'm here, I couldn't agree more FUCK DOCTORS, and specifically FUCK PSYCHIATRIST FUCK FUCK FUCK THOSE NARCISSISTIC STUPID SOCIOPATHS WHO RUIN SOO MANY LIVES AND GIVE NO FUCKS!!!!!! not even medicine, only pseudoscience, money, control and abuse, it's pure bullshit. They are so stupid and narcissistic and only care about their authority and making money, zero empathy, zero science, "psychiatry" is the dumbest thing I've heard on science. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK THEM ALL. I hate them so so much, they've done so much harm and it makes me so so so so angry. Sorry for this post but I have too much rage inside me :hmph:
I'm so sorry, I have had a similar experience.
 
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Ta555

Enlightened
Aug 31, 2021
1,317
For me doctors have been just useless rather than outright harmful. I experience many physical and psychological symptoms that are reminiscent of MS or myasthenia gravis but I've tested negative for both of these. I can feel something is wrong in the way my brain operates but no current testing can show what's actually wrong. I think I have something like long covid without having had covid (as far as I know) and it started way before I got my vaccine so no anti-vax comments here please.
I have one empathetic specialist who is my cardiologist but he can't really do anything. He said it's a bit embarassing that modern medicine can't do anything for patients like me and that unfortunately I was born in the wrong time to be helped and that in 50 to a 100 years we'll probably have diagnostic tools and treatments that could easily pinpoint and treat the issue but right now medicine is woefully inadequate. It was refreshing to hear a doctor say that.
As a woman I've also been dismissed as 'just anxious' by many medical professionals, both male and female, and I know how demeaning and discouraging it can be.
I'm looking at brain research and looking at stuff by Donna Jackson Hanazawa and such to see what might help. I know it sounds too good to be true but maybe diet and exercise, shock horror, might prove to be beneficial. Idk. I don't want to ctb but I also don't want to keep living this fucking nightmare.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,378
I went to high school with future doctors, some of which are only just getting out of medical school now (I graduated high school in 2012). Most of them cheated their way through high school and through college too.

The majority of them had no interest in actually being a doctor at all for the purpose of saving lives or even helping people. Their only motivation was either money, pleasing their strict parents, or both. Almost all people in the medical profession are no better. When I went to college, a lot of people were trying to get nursing degrees and one even plainly admitted to me that she was only doing the Nursing degree because her grades weren't high enough to put her on the path to becoming a doctor.

These doctors aren't your friend and they don't actually care about your well-being. All they care about is keeping you alive as a milking machine to pump their bank accounts full. The more treatments or drugs they recommend, the fatter their income gets.
 
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Ta555

Enlightened
Aug 31, 2021
1,317
I went to high school with future doctors, some of which are only just getting out of medical school now (I graduated high school in 2012). Most of them cheated their way through high school and through college too.

The majority of them had no interest in actually being a doctor at all for the purpose of saving lives or even helping people. Their only motivation was either money, pleasing their strict parents, or both. Almost all people in the medical profession are no better. When I went to college, a lot of people were trying to get nursing degrees and one even plainly admitted to me that she was only doing the Nursing degree because her grades weren't high enough to put her on the path to becoming a doctor.

These doctors aren't your friend and they don't actually care about your well-being. All they care about is keeping you alive as a milking machine to pump their bank accounts full. The more treatments or drugs they recommend, the fatter their income gets.
Fortunately where I live the health system is not for profit and it's actually hard to get a doctor to order tests or prescribe you anything. We are the opposite where it's hard to get doctors to actually investigate and treat. They just say you're stressed and sent on your way. And if you ask for a particular test 99% of the time you'll just get told, no you don't need that test you don't have that. And it's like how the fuck do you know I don't have that if you won't test me for it?! It's more the attitude of 'I know more than you so shut up and do as you're told' or 'ehh...whatever you have isn't really straightforward so I don't want to deal with it'.
 
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Journeytoletgo

Broken and hated 7-14 years long overdue
May 14, 2018
1,608
I totally agree. I come from a household of poverty so the food we ate was bad and unhealthy I didn't start eating healthy until age 19, and exercise. Antibiotics, shots, citalopram, accutane, alcohol abuse I am a goner, also cavities from chocolate and received fillings. My body is and brain is so out of wack
 
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LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
responded to them saying it just sounded like natural aging (the person had said they were in their early 20s), and that anxiety probably was also playing a role and that they should see a psychiatrist.
Oh the classic "it's just aging" and "it's just anxiety"…they say these things to you over and over again until you actually are of an age where you're declining (so they can use it as an excuse even more so, when it's still likely not the reason) or until you do develop anxiety and are too afraid to even go to ANY doctor to ask for help.
Whenever I used to hear the "it's just aging", I would be like.."Um, excuse me? How the hell old do you think I am!?"
 
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