Discussion do you wonder how people figured out CTB info without this website or a background in biology?

[FutureHanger]

It's so fascinating to me how it seems like some suicides must've been committed by people with prior knowledge yet they don't seem to have a background on this website or with biology, like I saw someone on reddit say they got their noose in a way where they could lose consciousness from laying criss cross apple sauce so I imagine that person found the carotid artery without even being aware of it! or how people know what knots to tie to anchor points also I once saw a video of a woman hanging without tying a noose that compresses her neck and I find that quite impressive how she managed to find a way to hang herself without a noose squeezing her neck

Spoiler: spoiler cuz it's gore

here it is

and I'm sure there's non-hanging suicides that required knowledge yet somehow someone figured it out without a resource like this as I imagine at least one shallow water blackout death that's been ruled as an "accident" was intentional.

 

[FuneralCry]

I envy those people, they are the fortunate ones for managing to ctb even know it's so difficult to die on our own terms.

 

[certified_idiot]

Sometimes its pretty intuitive that you'll die. It's pretty easy to figure out that if you jump off a high enough place you'll die. Sometimes people just figure stuff out by accident, like the guy who figured out how to pass out with the noose. I think it's still a good idea to know the science behind your CTB method, which is why this site is so helpful.

 

[CannabisMuncher]

It's so fascinating to me how it seems like some suicides must've been committed by people with prior knowledge yet they don't seem to have a background on this website or with biology, like I saw someone on reddit say they got their noose in a way where they could lose consciousness from laying criss cross apple sauce so I imagine that person found the carotid artery without even being aware of it! or how people know what knots to tie to anchor points also I once saw a video of a woman hanging without tying a noose that compresses her neck and I find that quite impressive how she managed to find a way to hang herself without a noose squeezing her neck

Spoiler: spoiler cuz it's gore

here it is

and I'm sure there's non-hanging suicides that required knowledge yet somehow someone figured it out without a resource like this as I imagine at least one shallow water blackout death that's been ruled as an "accident" was intentional.

likely they tested ideas as all

 

[FutureHanger]

The video link isn't worth it as it just has loads of spam webpages open and sex ads.

I have adblock so I didn't notice sorry

 

[Forever Sleep]

I expect you can learn how to tie knots on the regular internet and YouTube. People maybe experiment before doing it in situe. Plus, you don't need the internet to jump off something tall. Risky though- if it's not tall enough.

I reckon there are loads of failures though. Especially with attempts with OD's and cutting. Isn't the statistic something like- there are 25 failed attempts for one suicide?

 

[UKscotty]

I think most humans intuitively know that to die is far too easy, we are more fragile than we realise. That's why hanging is the most common form of suicide I guess. Or guns then hanging for our friends in the US.

Not that many people actually go on to CTB, it's only about 5000 a year here in the UK which is tiny compared to the population.
The US is about 50,000 which again is not that high.

The real challenge is overcoming the SI and truly hitting rock bottom. Until then we will research countless methods as a form of control and comfort blanket.