Discussion Do you want to be 'helped'? Poll

[Forever Sleep]

Let's say you could get ANY type of help that would be relevant to you- be it medical, psychological, practical- would you even want it?

I think a big reason many of us don't reach out for help is because we doubt it will be all that effective. Some people here have already had years of therapy/medication for example- so- they KNOW it hasn't helped enough so far.

I'm guessing it would depend on how effective the 'help' given would likely be- so- I've split the poll up. Would you- for example- only accept help if it had a high chance of working? Would you try it- if it only had a very slim chance of working? Or- do you doubt it would make any or much difference at all?

I've only once really sought out therapy and meds. Not sure they did all that much to be honest. I would need more practical help- a decently paid creative job but it's so difficult in this world. I've got to a point though where I'm not even sure that would be enough. I just kind of doubt anything would help enough now. The will to try has gone for me. How about you?

 

[WorthlessTrash]

"No- even if it sort of worked- it likely wouldn't be worth it"

Even if I took HRT and/or transitioned, I still wouldn't have the correct body. I also missed out on 30 years of growing up the correct sex. It is simply not worth it for me.

 

[jodes2]

I think it's worth trying what you can before you CTB even if there's only a small chance you'll recover

 

[tystero]

No, to ask help from an institution is to lose my agency. I have to kneel before the authorities of the doctors, nurses or psychiatrists. My dignity and my individuality will be ignored in order to have them judge whether or not I'm "normal" enough for society.

I like the more "organic" kind of help like this forum for example.

 

[Dolphin55]

"No- even if it sort of worked- it likely wouldn't be worth it"

Even if I took HRT and/or transitioned, I still wouldn't have the correct body. I also missed out on 30 years of growing up the correct sex. It is simply not worth it for me.

I'm not going to try and claim every single person can pass well when they transition later in life, but many people have very successful transitions and look great at the end. I think it's a myth that transitioning later is not worth it.
it's true, you'll never have the 'correct' body, but you can have something close to it. You've missed out on living as the correct sex but it's not too late to start now.

 

[Source Energy]

The only help I want is a bottle of Nembutal.

The rest - useless blabbing and platitudes with the definition of "therapy" - does not change a thing. Nobody can change my circumstances and take away this debilitating emotional pain. Nothing short of that is "help" to me.

 

[doom123]

I'd love somebody to help me by dumping a bottle of SN down my throat

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Only if that help comes in the form of truly sanctioned suicide. I regret and resent every penny and second spent on the altarmental health industry.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I'm not going to try and claim every single person can pass well when they transition later in life, but many people have very successful transitions and look great at the end. I think it's a myth that transitioning later is not worth it.
it's true, you'll never have the 'correct' body, but you can have something close to it. You've missed out on living as the correct sex but it's not too late to start now.

Thanks for the attempt to sway me to try, but I will still choose to CTB over it. Not to mention, I cannot afford all, if any of the needed procedures. I also find scarring gross. Then there is still the issue of losing out on 30 years of living life being the correct sex. Honestly, I would have CTB'd in my 40s even if I was born the correct sex because aging is unappealing to me so yes it is too late lol

and yes, transitioning later not being worth it is not a myth. Your odds are even lower of passing the later you transition due to testosterone riddling your body for 20+ years. It's actually easier imo for FTM to pass later on than MTF.

I don't consider a body full of scars to be anywhere close to the correct body for me, so CTB I will.

 

[HayBunny23]

Even if someone gave me a million dollars tomorrow, it wouldn't erase everything that happened, that keep happening, or fix my head. Even if I got some pills and got "better" I'd still be poor and stupid. I guess id literally need some sort of god like miracle after miracle to make it better at this point.

 

[ilovecats]

Yes. Life is worth living if you can be happy, even if you are not successful, but, sadly, not everybody can but I still hope I could find a way to see the world in a better way. I would gladly accept anybody's genuine attempt to help me, even if there was a very slim chance of it working.

 

[xzyxzy]

Honestly I don't even know

 

[Spyware]

Yes having even 1 supportive person irl that genuinely cares about me would be a night and day difference.

 

[Kurushii]

I put no even if it sort of worked because even if it did, I still wouldn't find life worth living. There's just not enough to make me want to stay here. No, I'd rather leave. Always.

 

[HopelessSoul]

If it could actually solve the root cause of my problems, then absolutely yes, for me the problem is the lost time, i wanted help ten years ago, but I think it might still be worth it.

 

[Himalayan]

I'd love somebody to help me by dumping a bottle of SN down my throat

A bottle of N*

 

[western_heart]

I am accepting help (therapy, ketamine) but don't expect it to stop me from ctb. It still provides value as I try to understand myself better given the decades of dissociation. Treatment doesn't have to save my life for it to be effective at making my remaining time better. Or, if not better, at least I get to know why I suffer so much.

There is a chance of a breakthrough or perhaps a job offer will fall in my lap or something, but I'm not counting on it.

 

[rail.tracerr]

I'm not sure if I want to get better so much as I just want to stop feeling like garbage. Years of therapy have done little for me but I'm still trying because I am just so tired of feeling like garbage and wanting to die. Ups and downs. If I go through the worst downs maybe I'll find the best ups.

or maybe it's all pointless. Who knows.
I guess I'll still try.

 

[exhaustedanonymous]

my mood changes so rapidly i dont think i can really answer the poll, so i said unlikely. some days it feels like even if god himself came down from the sky and offered me eternal wealth, happiness and peace to keep living id just as him to end it for me, and other days i'm "perfectly" fine..

 

[FuneralCry]

I personally don't want anything to do with existing at all, such a thing as existing could never be worth it for me. The only thing that could ever "help", is having some kind of peaceful way to end my existence. But in my case I simply despise being here and there is nothing appealing about having to exist for me and there could never be.
Some people are simply not meant for existing in any way and don't wish to suffer, age and deteriorate and I view life itself as being the true problem.

In my case seeing existence as not being worth enduring is simply just being realistic, and feeling this way isn't something to be "helped". I'm just seeing life for what it really is and the view of suicidal thoughts being the problem and being something irrational that is an illness really irritates me. I think many people who try to push the whole idea of help onto others are doing it as they don't wish to come to terms with the fact that death is simply the more desirable option for many people.

 

[leeloosnow]

I'm not sure if I want to get better so much as I just want to stop feeling like garbage. Years of therapy have done little for me but I'm still trying because I am just so tired of feeling like garbage and wanting to die. Ups and downs. If I go through the worst downs maybe I'll find the best ups.
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or maybe it's all pointless. Who knows.
I guess I'll still try.

YOUR PFP THO
if i got like, a winning lottery ticket, some truly amazing friends, um, a comfortable house, a lot better medical and MH resources, and some rats. more rats. then maybe.

unsolicited overly pushy advice i've likely already tried, fuck no. i don't mind ppl saying whatever but if i say 'that doesnt/didnt work for me' then please don't continue to try to push it on me. it's like a more serious form of politics or religion, once we realize our view are so vastly different, change the subject.

 

[nico_wren]

If there WAS a 100% chance of it actually "helping", then, of course I would. However, that's not realistic in any standpoint. I tried in the past and they really just throw darts blindly at you. Nothing helps..

 

[yive]

i want to be helped only with leaving life forever, but in a pro life sense - absolutely not

 

[missingpeace]

No, I don't want any help, I want to be removed from this earth because my situation has been so traumatising, that I can't bear the thought of living on this planet, with the existence of such going ons that are possible. There is barely anyone who has come close to what I've experienced and that is an excruciating loneliness I don't want to know/feel.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Beyond help

 

[bunnii]

I'm currently seeking "help," that isn't really helping. Therapy and meds and nothing feels better. However, I still think everyone should try some sort of help before they decide to ctb. That's just my opinion though, I'd never force anyone if that's their choice.

 

[Walpurgisnacht]

I have mixed feelings about it...
I was abused by the mental health establishment as a child, and now I permanently distrust psychiatric professionals. They lied to me about confidentiality, so I naively told them the truth about my situation; then they told my parents everything I said and the next three years of my life were entirely ruined. CAMHS are absolute snakes and not long after that my friend was also abused and gaslit by them in a much worse way that I won't get in to here.

In adulthood, I've been involuntarily hospitalised multiple times. Two were attempted CTBs, the first was an overdose that didn't work, but the 2nd was extremely insidious. Some massive dude I had never seen before in my life manhandled me off the other side of the bridge railing and they called the cops, who immediately sectioned me; I got off light though, it was only a forced hospitalisation until I was "cleared by the crisis team" and could go home. During that time, these jackasses from the "crisis team" took about 7 hours to show up, and just berated and guilt tripped me for 30 minutes before sending me home -- that was it, and the aftermath of that made my friends and partner not want to be around me anymore, and I was just left with new trauma. I was so close to falling, the drugs were kicking in, and I was grabbed and sent away like a criminal caught trying to jack a car. I have so much contempt for the medical establishment and for people who think it's okay to interfere with a complete stranger's attempt by any means they see fit, no matter how much it violates their dignity.

Anyway, the thing about it is, since I became an adult, I have never actually been in therapy at all. I tried for months at one point to be put in for DBT, and when I was refused by the NHS for that, I still accepted their (less effective sounding) alternatives, and then they... lied about my willingness to participate in those too, so I got nothing again.
I'm too poor to afford private therapy, and the one therapist in my area who offers concessions to people in my financial situation was too overbooked to see me.

So, I never got to try. "Seek help" is so much harder to actually do than the people who repeat that shit know.
Even if it's the smallest chance in hell it'd work, I still want to try, because I want to enjoy living. No one enjoys suffering, yknow?

But I keep being either burned by the "professionals" or turned away by them. I've never got the change to try and I probably never will, but even with that distrust I'm so desperate for anything to alleviate my suffering that I'd take it if I could, and I'd try my best to engage with it. None of them seem to give a fuck about me though, not that they're obliged to.

 

[Shadowlord900]

Nope. Everytime I've been helped by someone other than myself, it either hasn't helped me at all or it's given me a different problem instead. And my physical health has only gotten worse as time goes on.

 

[HadItAll]

I want to be helped with catching the bus

 

[screw]

No, I don't want to forfeit my freedom for help that may not even work, end up causing further turmoil, and making things harder for me.