What is it that makes you want to ctb?

  • Yourself

    Votes: 26 24.3%
  • The world

    Votes: 9 8.4%
  • Neither

    Votes: 3 2.8%
  • Both

    Votes: 69 64.5%

  • Total voters
    107
Aergia

Aergia

Mage
Jun 20, 2023
526
Or both of the above? I guess this is the best wording I can come up with. Are your reasons rooted in something personal (internal?)— maybe a psychological/neurological disorder or a physical illness— or does your desire to ctb stem from something external— your social/domestic environment, capitalism, religion...

Or do you just think you're just not compatible with life anymore? Maybe it's not you or the world that's messed up— you just don't want to live.

Wasn't sure about making this a poll because it does seem reductive, but I thought the results could be interesting given that suicidality is typically thought to be indicative of something wrong with a person, not wider society. Naturally a lot of us are gonna have more nuanced answers (and you can feel free to share those in the comments).
 
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stupidmonkey

suffering succotash
Jul 30, 2023
34
all of the above
 
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theyspeak

theyspeak

Member
Oct 13, 2022
10
i think for me it's more of a personal thing. the world is fine and you can be happy and fulfilled, it's just myself that can't fit in anymore.
 
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LifeHasNoMeaning

LifeHasNoMeaning

just looking for a way out (xe/they)
Jun 11, 2023
16
the world's very fucked up, but i feel like i fuck it up even more. i think i just want to make the world a bit better by leaving it. or i'll fuck up even more and make it worse by doing that. but ultimately, i just wanna die.
 
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Alltheywanted

Alltheywanted

Nobody knows what I see
Mar 6, 2023
331
There's definitely something wrong with me because I just can't enjoy a life that's objectively not bad. I have everything I could want, my parents love and support me, I have at least 1 true friend and I'm even quite smart so I could achieve anything I want. Why can't I appreciate this enough? Well, me therapist says that depression is the answer and I just want to belive her. I hope it gets better but honestly atp I'm ready to CTB.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
9,806
I think it's a mixture of both really. I fully acknowledge that I could have done more to succeed in this world. But then, I look at some of the people that DO succeed- narcissists and sociopaths and I think- yikes! Not that good people don't succeed too but I don't like how this world rewards really cold hearted, ruthless behaviour. I'd MUCH rather not be a part of that.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,857
I wish to be free from everything as I don't see existence itself as being something desirable, it's the cause of all suffering after all and existing doesn't appeal to me in any way, I could never wish to decay from age in an existence where there is unlimited potential to suffer endlessly. I only wish for nothingness as nobody can be harmed by it, existing is tiresome, pointless and futile as well, I see no benefit to existing in this hellish world.
 
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numbed one

Student
May 22, 2023
192
I want to die because i can't Bear thé pain that i feel while working and i can't stop working because of m'y family who will bé so Bad because of me , a job that i should stand still UP for 8 hours and work so hard , so this IS it , i will die .
 
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shantyizlit

shantyizlit

Really, what was the point?
Jul 7, 2023
189
The world is fucked up and so am I.. but I'm a product of society, so that's where my blame goes. I truly tried to be different, but society got the last laugh when the vile psychiatry got its filthy claws deep into my neck.
 
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ConstantPain

Sorry but cats are so much better than people
Jun 9, 2022
272
Definitely BOTH!
I place more blame on the world but know I must be too. Or, all the people that want to live to advanced age are the fucked up ones and I'm normal.
 
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flyaway

Member
Jul 11, 2020
53
Both. If it was "just" me or "just" the world, I could probably still have a somehow normal life but the combination of seeing how bad the world is and being unable to fit in is what makes CTB the most logical choice for me.
 
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Lavender Dreams

Lavender Dreams

serial vapist
Nov 5, 2022
72
Yes.
 
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020x

020x

Suffering will end when the existence does.
Jul 6, 2023
249
The world itself is fine in my opinion, I think everyone could be happy if it wasn't something that destroyed that possibility for them. I used to be a happy person, but it went more to a neutral way after I developed chronic mental illnesses after some traumatic experiences.

I understand people that hate existence itself, because it randomly decided to make such life, where there's unlimited potential of suffering and pain. So I understand both views. It's pretty sad that everything was decided for us and that some people have to suffer and some people experiencing all the fun in this world. This is especially sad for people that don't believe in afterlife because they won't get a second chance.

I personally think that this world could've been a lot more worse and unstable, maybe even more brutal. Either way, it doesn't make sense to me. I feel like the existence itself is trying to figure out what it wants and what it's trying to achieve, or it just creates as much as it can to see what it can do. Anyways, its too much to handle for a human, even if we were given a 1000 years each, there would be no difference. There's no purpose in my opinion, otherwise we wouldn't live in such a weird world.
 
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Both. Although before the main reason was for me, now it's for the world and society.
 
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stage4johnny

Member
Jun 22, 2023
65
The world is definitely going downhill,we are heading for God knows what kind of dystopian future. In America,the drive for social mobility,freedom,etc.has stalled and Class Warfare has made a stunning return.
But my ctb is personal,due to my failings. Yes I ve been failed by others,but I can't forgive myself. I was supposed to take care of me.
Anyway,America and the world are so fucked up I kind of feel guilty tryna ctb! Feel like a deserter!
 
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Bronzehawkattack

Member
Mar 17, 2018
65
The world is fucked up and I cant' change it.
 
11April

11April

11.04.2015 ❤️
Jan 9, 2023
74
20% - world, 80% - myself
 
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Arihman

Arihman

Efilist, atheist, pro-right to die.
Jun 8, 2023
133
Both. While individual lives can be good, this world is a shithole where there is nothing to do but try to satisfy needs that didn't need to exist, and try to fix messes made by our very existence. Life doesn't solve any problem it didn't first create, if all humans and animals died our absence wouldn't be missed, including by us, just like Mars is not in torment over the absence of martians on its surface.

But all this wouldn't even be a problem on its own, the point is that the needs often don't get met, the pleasures we get from meeting them eventually become weak and ineffective, and our existence has a massive cost both in animal and human suffering because we can't avoid harming others. Even more damning is the fact that the good is stronger than the bad, which means that our pleasure is less intensely good than our pain is intensely bad. And yet we continue to have kids as if none of this was a thing, all for the glory of the DNA or of some bullshit fable or delusion of purpose, when not procreating would have avoided both the bad and the need for good.

Most of humanity is a bunch of religious kooks and shitheads who believe in fables, and kill and torture in the name of their stupid delusions.

And it's not like atheists are not guilty of this as well. Worse, some of them are moral nihilists who think suffering doesn't matter, so they might as well do what they want and torture you or put you at risk because, after all, the universe doesn't care.

And most people in general are assholes praising life even when it abuses them, the same way a battered wife defends her abusive husband, and they treat existence as if it was some God to worship. And don't you dare disagree, because otherwise we will call you sick and vulnerable (and you are sick and vulnerable because you don't like living), and then forcibly hospitalize you because you can't make your decisions about living and dying, even though, conveniently, you are still functional enough to work, pay taxes, and even have kids. But no, you must love life, love it, love it, love it. Why? Because (insert glib responses and empty platitudes here).

And all this for what real purpose? For a bunch of trivial and/or flawed pleasures that we constantly have to strive for, that will eventually will be replaced by other addictions, and that can turn into horrible pain at any time? Because we don't want to believe that there is nothing magical or special about us and why we exist, and that we are just biological machines designed to reproduce and meet needs and wants, even at the cost of torturing others? Do I have to continue?

As for me, I don't want to work most of my life while only having 2 free days a week, only to then become weak when I will no longer have to. I don't want to live in a world where there is no real love that can complete you and we are all ultimately on our own. I don't want to endure some horrible illness later on. I don't want to suffer in general, because the dead can't wish for life, but the living can wish for death, so that's a good reason to get out of here as soon as I can, since I won't need whatever improvement I can get from life once I'm dead.

I don't want to stay alive only so I can continually solve problems only to stave off worse ones. I don't want to strive so I can meet needs that will eventually become more and more ineffective, that are almost never what you expect them to be, and that will be replaced by new ones if you succeed in meeting them. I don't want to live in a world where the only lasting happiness often lies in following some bullshit spiritual path to get rid of your needs, instead of meeting them and being satisfied just with that as it should be.
 
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Death is my goal

Death is my goal

pathetic failure
Aug 25, 2022
506
i think for me it's more of a personal thing. the world is fine and you can be happy and fulfilled, it's just myself that can't fit in anymore.
lol this world is absolutely not fine by any means
 
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k1w1

Experienced
Feb 16, 2022
268
That is a thought provoking question. The world does not seem to be progressing in a positive direction, which is to say capitalism trumped ecology & social ideals. But then....2000 years ago the Romans were coming, so human failings continue & all one can do is not perpetuate or contribute to our many problems. Certainly no-one would listen to me in order that I become part of any solutions, as I am called a come-down when I point out existing injustices.
Personally, I have seen, thought & experienced enough of life. My body & mind would function very well for another 15 years or so, but to what end?
 

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