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Motoko

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Feb 27, 2020
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I'm more of a sceptical person myself, but lately I've been wondering. Is that all there is? Or maybe you're reborn in parallel universe, or wake up from simulation, or reincarnated? What are your thoughts on this?
 
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The swan sang with a broken neck
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I wish with all my strength that this will not happen.
 
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pete_x

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May 9, 2020
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Without sounding like a "kook" or a sith lord. I'm betting on yes.
 
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pete_x

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May 9, 2020
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I suppose i would need to die to get a solid answer. =P

I would like to think we shoulder off the accumulated meh yay and screams [lots of screams] and return to a core state
so we can endure yet another pointless rotation through this fuckin mess. i guess.
 
Soul

Soul

gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svaha
Apr 12, 2019
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I suppose i would need to die to get a solid answer. =P

Unless what I experience isn't what everyone experiences.

I would like to think we shoulder off the accumulated meh yay and screams [lots of screams]and return to a core state
so we can endure yet another pointless rotation through this fuckin mess. i guess.

A bubble on the river is always part of the river, so merging back into the river should be nice and relaxing.
 
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Epsilon0

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I believe consciousness is a result of the synoptic activity in our brains, so consciousness ceases to exist the moment the brain is dead.

I could be wrong, of course. But I don't think cosciousness is outside our brains and can outlive the death of our brains.
 
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ForSale?

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I think it would be just like if you were knocked out, without experiencing dreams. I think everything would just go black and you wouldn't even be aware of your state, or anything at all. You would simply not exist (except in the physical form) and it's such a strange phenomenon that humans are unable to fathom it.

This is, of course, if atheism holds true.
 
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Brick In The Wall

2M Or Not 2B.
Oct 30, 2019
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For many reasons that I won't go into I do believe that consciousness persists after death. I know that's not exactly a popular opinion around here but I'm sticking to it.
 
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MaybeSoon

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Oct 11, 2019
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No. I believe our conciousness is made up from all of the senses. Sight, smell, hearing, touch etc.. if all of those didn't exist what would be left? A blind mans conciousness would be different from yours for example. Once the brain dies there's no senses since the only way you experience them is from a functioning brain. How can you see when you're brain dead? just my opinion though from a scientific point of view.
 
WarRunner

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I came from nothing, so I will return to nothing.
 
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Arrow

Rewrite
May 1, 2020
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hopefully fucking not. if consciousness remains after death then this world is truly corrupt to the core, and injustice is infinite. what keeps me going is the knowledge that one day i will cease to be--forever.
 
Starcitty

Starcitty

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Jan 6, 2020
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I believe in reincarnation so I'd believe so. If we were all of a sudden born into this existence then who knows what will happen after our deaths. This is one of the reasons I'm no longer an atheist but also not religious.
 
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Jean Améry

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I believe consciousness is a result of the synoptic activity in our brains, so consciousness ceases to exist the moment the brain is dead.

I could be wrong, of course. But I don't think cosciousness is outside our brains and can outlive the death of our brains.

That is pretty much the scientific consensus. Given that science is the single best means of acquiring knowledge about the world I'd say it's the most reasonable position to take.

Personally I'll be mightily surprised if I wake up after having died.
I know that's not exactly a popular opinion around here but I'm sticking to it.

Of course. No-one should expect you to conform to popular opinions. Certainly not here: believing in the permissiblity of suicide is a highly unpopular opinion in society.
 
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Epsilon0

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That is pretty much the scientific consensus. Given that science is the single best means of acquiring knowledge about the world I'd say it's the most reasonable position to take.

Personally I'll be mightily surprised if I wake up after having died.


Of course. No-one should expect you to conform to popular opinions. Certainly not here: believing in the permissiblity of suicide is a highly unpopular opinion in society.

@Jean Améry

I will also be surprised, but if it happens, let's meet up and have a drink.

We can make fun of all the people on SS who don't believe consciousness exists after death. Self-irony is, after all, the supreme form of irony.

See you at Caffé Paradiso at 7 in the evening, ok?
 
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a.n.kirillov

a.n.kirillov

velle non discitur
Nov 17, 2019
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I hope not. But since life has thus far always had the last laugh, who knows. Maybe it would violate the law of cosmic irony if there wasn't an afterlife.
 
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Jean Améry

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Mar 17, 2019
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I will also be surprised, but if it happens, let's meet up and have a drink.

We can make fun of all the people on SS who don't believe consciousness exists after death. Self-irony is, after all, the supreme form of irony.

See you at Caffé Paradiso at 7 in the evening, ok?

See you there.
 
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Jean Améry

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Mar 17, 2019
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Assuming we both make it to Heaven. I mean, I know I will. But I have my doubts about you

Pride before the fall. Pride is one of the 7 cardinal sins in christian mythology and the most severe one, didn't you know? I'll be sure to wave at you through the window when saint Peter refuses you entrance. At least if I didn't pick the wrong god to pray to on my deathbed.

I'd better pray to all of them and hope they aren't envious.

Pascal's wager did not solve this problem for me...
 
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Epsilon0

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Dec 28, 2019
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Pride before the fall. Pride is one of the 7 cardinal sins in christian mythology and the most severe one, didn't you know? I'll be sure to wave at you through the window when saint Peter refuses you entrance. At least if I didn't pick the wrong god to pray to on my deathbed.

I'd better to pray to all of them and hope they aren't envious.

Pascal's wager did not solve this problem for me...

@Jean Améry

Here's a little riddle for you:

I caused the cause of mankind's fall to fall.
 
Giraffey

Giraffey

Your Orange Crush
Mar 7, 2020
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I'm among a limited but growing number of scientists who believes that believes consciousness remains active during dreamless sleep. The most obvious example of this is what you might call an "imageless lucid dream" which is where you're aware that you're dreaming until the dream 'collapses' and you remain conscious, just existing in a black void. You can see nothing but black, hear nothing except the internal vocalisations of your own thoughts, taste, smell and touch nothing, you might feel limited or no emotions - just peace (a burst of strong emotions at this point would tend to cause you to wake up).

If consciousness did exist after death, I imagine that is, at a minimum, what it would 'feel' like. But from a purely neurological point of view - consciousness ceases with death.

There are other angles you could attack the problem from such as the various arguments from quantum physics, but I never trained or studied those areas - so whilst I couldn't say it's impossible, I personally don't believe that consciousness continues post-mortem.
 
GoBack

GoBack

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Apr 25, 2020
997
Yeah I do. Science is overthinking it
 
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coldeyes

coldeyes

the rumbling is comfy
Jan 9, 2019
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We know so little. All of humanity can't have been wrong knowing so.
 
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Kumachan

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Mar 5, 2020
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Science knows nothing about consciousness. Rather awareness. Something that allows perception - something perceives the contents of my brain. It must be eternal, non-physical.
 
a.n.kirillov

a.n.kirillov

velle non discitur
Nov 17, 2019
1,831
Science knows nothing about consciousness. Rather awareness. Something that allows perception - something perceives the contents of my brain. It must be eternal, non-physical.

Same thing these people said about life. Why? Because they couldn't explain the phenomenon of organic life mechanically.
 
coldeyes

coldeyes

the rumbling is comfy
Jan 9, 2019
75
Why not? People used to believe the earth is flat. Does that make it true?

Same thing. Figuring the world isn't flat is a simple thing. Figuring what makes you figure that you can figure to figure that you can figure to figure that the world isn't flat after all, now that is why all humanity knows. You know it. Everybody knows it. Consciousness is endless.
 
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Jean Améry

Enlightened
Mar 17, 2019
1,098
Same thing. Figuring the world isn't flat is a simple thing. Figuring what makes you figure that you can figure to figure that you can figure to figure that the world isn't flat after all, now that is why all humanity knows. You know it. Everybody knows it. Consciousness is endless.

You misunderstand. My point is that 'many people think/thought X therefore it must be true' is not a good argument. People are wrong all the time and the number of people believing something has no bearing on whether it's true or not.
 
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