Method Do you think this method would work?

[Dolphin55]

Sn is difficult for me to acquire as I live with other people, and I also don't like how reports of its peacefulness vary so widely.

My back-up plan is hypothermia in non-freezing conditions (to mitigate the risk of frostbite). On a cold winter's day when I'm alone, I'd open the bathroom window, wait for it to get really cold, and then run a bath of very cold water. I'd drink a bunch of alcohol and hopefully take some kind of sedative, if I can get one, to speed the process and reduce suffering. Then I'd lie in the water and hope to ctb within a few hours.

I'm aware this will produce a lot of discomfort, as being extremely cold feels horrible, but I think I can handle it. If not, or if I have any second thoughts about ctb, I can just leave the bathroom at any point while I'm still conscious. Since I wouldn't do this on a day below freezing, I won't risk frostbite, and could warm myself up again.

Do you think this is feasible? Have I failed to consider anything important?

Thank you for any input.

 

[ThisIsLife]

Your SI will win

 

[Dolphin55]

Your SI will win

maybe. Alcohol should help

 

[ThisIsLife]

Alcohol is calories. When your body gets cold, it burns a lot, so if you "feed" your body with calories you'll help it go through the cold and delay the effect expected, increasing the likelihood of your SI be the winner.
I think that fasting beforehand would be more efficient.

This method is way harder than you imagine, and very painful.

 

[Dolphin55]

Alcohol is calories. When your body gets cold, it burns a lot, so if you "feed" your body with calories you'll help it go through the cold and delay the effect expected, increasing the likelihood of your SI be the winner.
I think that fasting beforehand would be more efficient.

This method is way harder than you imagine, and very painful.

Interesting, everything I've read says alcohol exacerbates hypothermia.

This was from a quick Google search:

"Acting as a vasodilator, alcohol causes the blood vessels just below your skin's surface to dilate, creating a false sensation of warmth, stealing heat from your vital organs and decreasing your overall core temperature. This effect is exacerbated when the body is exposed to cold temperatures."

And: "Alcohol is a dominant cause of death in urban hypothermia. Drinking alcohol gives a pleasant feeling of warmth…Alcohol delays the onset of shivering and reduces its duration."

I also read about someone who died accidentally via hypothermia after she fell unconscious with alcohol + benzos in the rain.
It's likely she experienced no pain, from her point of view she just fell asleep and never woke up.

Fasting sounds like it would definitely help too, I imagine with a mixture of fasting + alcohol + benzos + the right tempature you'd be on your way for a relatively peaceful ctb. I do wonder though if the water coming from a tap, even on its coldest setting, would be cold enough, it needs to be above freezing but not too warm or it would take far too long and SI would eventually win

 

[nozomu]

This would not work.

 

[Dolphin55]

This would not work.

Could you explain why? I wouldn't want to try it if it has no chance of success

 

[nozomu]

Could you explain why? I wouldn't want to try it if it has no chance of success

Have you attempted before? SI is not to be underestimated even with guaranteed methods (which this is definitely not).

 

[Dolphin55]

Have you attempted before? SI is not to be underestimated even with guaranteed methods (which this is definitely not).

No I haven't...I imagine without alcohol or some kind of sedative you wouldn't stand a chance against the SI, but if people have died accidentally with alcohol + hypothermia it does make it feel more promising.

Maybe I'm being naïve. But at least, from my understanding, failure shouldn't leave any lasting damage (so long as temperatures are above freezing) so it's not as risky as some other methods like jumping. I'd rather try a method with a lower chance of success but no risk of severe damage than try a method with a higher success rate but a risk of severe damage

 

[arsencio354]

I honestly think alcohol is a key factor in most successful suicide cases since it depresses the central nervous system. Your SI would be nonexistent if you get drunk enough. I got so drunk before that I passed out, woke up with like 10 bruises and a few small lacerations and didnt feel or remember ANYTHING other than waking up in an ambulance.

 

[sweetheart]

Alcohol and cold temperatures are a lethal mix, just ask anyone who lives in a cold country. Every winter here people freeze to death on their way home from the bars because they fall asleep in a snowy ditch somewhere. Alcohol makes you not feel the cold as much, while actually making your body more vulnerable to it. Alcohol would definitely be the right move.
However keep in mind that your body temperature will warm up the bathwater quite a bit. I guess you could keep changing out the water. I'm frankly unsure if it would be cold enough, but I wouldn't rule out this method completely.
Alcohol and sedatives does kill the SI, like other users above have said. Every attempt I've made has been under the influence of alcohol (and often drugs as well). Without it SI is a bitch for sure, but alcohol is a way around it. SI also won't hit as hard with a relatively peaceful method like hypothermia. That's one of the many reasons it has become my method of choice.

 

[Dolphin55]

Alcohol and cold temperatures are a lethal mix, just ask anyone who lives in a cold country. Every winter here people freeze to death on their way home from the bars because they fall asleep in a snowy ditch somewhere. Alcohol makes you not feel the cold as much, while actually making your body more vulnerable to it. Alcohol would definitely be the right move.
However keep in mind that your body temperature will warm up the bathwater quite a bit. I guess you could keep changing out the water. I'm frankly unsure if it would be cold enough, but I wouldn't rule out this method completely.
Alcohol and sedatives does kill the SI, like other users above have said. Every attempt I've made has been under the influence of alcohol (and often drugs as well). Without it SI is a bitch for sure, but alcohol is a way around it. SI also won't hit as hard with a relatively peaceful method like hypothermia. That's one of the many reasons it has become my method of choice.

thank you for the detailed reply! Yeah, I am worried about the temp of the bath water being cold enough, and making sure the temp is low enough in the bathroom as well. It would probably be more reliable if you were to do it in a cold lake/stream somewhere, but that carries the risk of being discovered