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- Aug 18, 2020
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The uninteresting answer would be yes and then I end it here.
I have been through pretty fucked up things and I am longterm suicide since I was a teenager. Yes I think if people went through similar things assisted suicide would already be legalised and offered to me. I think even one or two therapists alluded after having heard my full story and being aware of my longterm suicidality that it should be offered to me. One quit her job because I think my story burdened her too much.
Though here are some aspects to mention. I think some people could reply to someone like me: I have went through so much that I cannot have a rational thought about that. I am too traumatized to evaluate the value of life. In my opinion one of the main thoughts behind that is: After so much abuse and horrible unfair things that happened to me suicide must not be the end of this story. However I am very convinced about my life that it is a question of when and not whether I kill myself. So it will make the experience for me way worse and way more cynical having to go through with it in undignified circumstances. Their take I was just too biased about life to give it a real chance. To be honest the sole notion that people would reply that to me while being unaware of what I have tried pisses me off. And I think it is a standard talking point in such debates.
I once watched a very mediocre German TV debate show on assisted suicide. There was an activist against the righ to die. After experiencing depression and suicidality she was happy in life and she thought this logic could be applied to anyone. Her line of argumentation was: if someone offered me the death pill I would have already taken it not being aware of how great my life could potentially be. My personal argument for that is I would implement assisted suicide laws with certain regulations and not allowing itto buy N for 5 bucks at the supermarket available for any age. I want to say people who recovered from suicidality and depression can come to different conclusions
Personally I tried so much that I am more and more aware that I am not belonging to that group. I would prefer reasonable assisted suicide laws and that this topic moved away from the grey area. I think this would be an outcome that literally anyone would profit from. However the German parliament recently disapproved new laws and this undignified grey area shit goes on where you have to pay 10k solely for being able to apply for it without a guarantee to receive it eventually. Rich people still can go to Switzerland for sure or at least apply at these (allegedly?) greedy assisted suicide organizations. Giving a peaceful death an high price is cynical as shit.
I could go on with my personal longterm struggle with suicidality, mental illness and misery. But the forum is full of such stories. It is sad that there are suicide forums necessary for adults to inform themselves about how to end their life. In Germany one would say this is an "Armustzeugnis" . It is just a shame of the society not to offer people who reached their limit an exit with dignity. Humans in coming centuries will look back at this time and call it stonage.
I have been through pretty fucked up things and I am longterm suicide since I was a teenager. Yes I think if people went through similar things assisted suicide would already be legalised and offered to me. I think even one or two therapists alluded after having heard my full story and being aware of my longterm suicidality that it should be offered to me. One quit her job because I think my story burdened her too much.
Though here are some aspects to mention. I think some people could reply to someone like me: I have went through so much that I cannot have a rational thought about that. I am too traumatized to evaluate the value of life. In my opinion one of the main thoughts behind that is: After so much abuse and horrible unfair things that happened to me suicide must not be the end of this story. However I am very convinced about my life that it is a question of when and not whether I kill myself. So it will make the experience for me way worse and way more cynical having to go through with it in undignified circumstances. Their take I was just too biased about life to give it a real chance. To be honest the sole notion that people would reply that to me while being unaware of what I have tried pisses me off. And I think it is a standard talking point in such debates.
I once watched a very mediocre German TV debate show on assisted suicide. There was an activist against the righ to die. After experiencing depression and suicidality she was happy in life and she thought this logic could be applied to anyone. Her line of argumentation was: if someone offered me the death pill I would have already taken it not being aware of how great my life could potentially be. My personal argument for that is I would implement assisted suicide laws with certain regulations and not allowing itto buy N for 5 bucks at the supermarket available for any age. I want to say people who recovered from suicidality and depression can come to different conclusions
Personally I tried so much that I am more and more aware that I am not belonging to that group. I would prefer reasonable assisted suicide laws and that this topic moved away from the grey area. I think this would be an outcome that literally anyone would profit from. However the German parliament recently disapproved new laws and this undignified grey area shit goes on where you have to pay 10k solely for being able to apply for it without a guarantee to receive it eventually. Rich people still can go to Switzerland for sure or at least apply at these (allegedly?) greedy assisted suicide organizations. Giving a peaceful death an high price is cynical as shit.
I could go on with my personal longterm struggle with suicidality, mental illness and misery. But the forum is full of such stories. It is sad that there are suicide forums necessary for adults to inform themselves about how to end their life. In Germany one would say this is an "Armustzeugnis" . It is just a shame of the society not to offer people who reached their limit an exit with dignity. Humans in coming centuries will look back at this time and call it stonage.