sunny

sunny

Aug 15, 2023
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something i always consider while thinking about ctb is if i would rather get closer with people so i and they could cherish the time we had or if i would rather completely isolate myself and when people hear about my death they arent really impacted by it
 
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tabby

tabby

experiencing the horrors
Aug 16, 2023
35
something i always consider while thinking about ctb is if i would rather get closer with people so i and they could cherish the time we had or if i would rather completely isolate myself and when people hear about my death they arent really impacted by it
Closer. Always. People will cherish the last good moments they had with you and won't feel guilty about noticing that you've been distant and doing nothing about it. Getting closer also opens up the possibility of deciding you don't actually want to go through with your plans, or that you want to get help, which is always good.
 
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underscore_nine

underscore_nine

the sweet release
Feb 17, 2023
149
my girlfriend of 2 years who I loved dearly was always struggling with mental health and on November 16th 2022 she decided to take her life. It basically destroyed me, I could hardly move when I heard the news. I had to drop calculus and was unable to properly speak or socialize for weeks. It ruined me for months and caused me so much pain and hardship. She had every right to take her own life but she destroyed me while exercising that right. I would isolate yourself if you want to save the people who you love a lot of pain.

Edit: God bless her soul and I hope she's in a better place now
 
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bluebus

meet me at the back of the blue bus
Aug 5, 2023
424
I'm trying to spend as much time around the people I love as possible. Mostly for me because I love them, but also because I want to make sure their last memories of me are happy and fun
 
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doneforlife

Arcanist
Jul 18, 2023
486
my girlfriend of 2 years who I loved dearly was always struggling with mental health and on November 16th 2022 she decided to take her life. It basically destroyed me, I could hardly move when I heard the news. I had to drop calculus and was unable to properly speak or socialize for weeks. It ruined me for months and caused me so much pain and hardship. She had every right to take her own life but she destroyed me while exercising that right. I would isolate yourself if you want to save the people who you love a lot of pain.

Edit: God bless her soul and I hope she's in a better place now
I would do the same, isolate myself. I have had loss of loved one to death and the devastation it brings to the one left behind to deal with life is unfathomable. Only people who have gone through it will understand. I wouldn't want to bring hurt to a single soul cause of my departure.
 
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theRetroHawk

theRetroHawk

Member
Jun 18, 2023
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In my experience socially isolate because I feel like im in a position were I will feel guilty for ending my life I want as little to care as possible
 
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aquasaltstripes

Member
Jul 2, 2023
52
This is a dilemma I've been pondering ever since I slipped into suicidal depression and my dithering ass still can't really decide or answer. Closer is the option I've been considering a lot lately though. Like, ok, I don't like the idea of hurting people, let alone the ones you just recently deliberately brought into your life in spite (or perhaps because) of the risks. Call it emotional suicide bombing, so to speak (apologies if that term/analogy is offensive). But, t'is better to have loved and lost than never loved at all, right? The idea of them growing from the grief of your death and viewing it as sort of a reminder to care and cherish the people and things while you still have them and such, and the sentiment that grief is a testament to the quality of your relationship, is somewhat comforting, but nothing guarantees that and I can't expect anyone to navigate grief successfully and rise from the ashes of emotional disasters, as it were.

Again, I don't really know. The suicide of loved ones is the reason some of us are here on this forum to begin with. Suicide is a powerful end. Paraphrasing someone else, it scrambles the beginning, and, like a black hole, everything from that person's life will inevitably revolve around it and be sucked into it. And that's where the questions, rationalizing, etc., pour in: "Where did it all begin? How long were they planning this? What could I have done?" Etc. (The person I'm paraphrasing here is David Lipsky in the introduction of his book "Although Of Course You End Up Becoming Yourself," the transcript of his interviews with writer David Foster Wallace who killed himself in 2008.)
 
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Kerrtu

Kerrtu

Komeetta ♊︎
May 8, 2023
474
I'm going with social isolation since I've become fairly good at it and I know my time is approaching; I avoid leaving the apartment, seeing people - I can't hide the pain anymore. I cried on and off all day today. I don't have many people in my life anyhow - my sister lives in a different state, as does my partner.

I almost impulsively attempted earlier but I was able to stave off the urge. I was going to try to hang on until next month but I don't ever want to see the psychiatrist again. As Jean-Ralphio from Parks & Rec would say -

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Supposed to see her on the 31st but no - refills will be delivered on the 23rd or 24th and I'm ending my life on the 26th.

May 26th, 1983 - August 26th, 2023

Works for me.
 
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Pidgeons_Sparrows

Pidgeons_Sparrows

-flying rat
Apr 16, 2023
627
isolate and burn bridges but thats just my preference
 
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Kerrtu

Komeetta ♊︎
May 8, 2023
474
isolate and burn bridges but thats just my preference

I've been told I have a tendency to burn bridges and my response was always "May the bridges I burn light the way" or some variation, "let the flames light the way." Well, tonight I found out that quote, "May the bridges I burn light the way" came from the philosopher Dylan McKay of Beverly Hills 90210.

I am shook.

 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I think it depends on whether you are close with people now. If you are- then I think it's probably better to continue that way. I'm not sure how beneficial it is to just suddenly start pushing people away. That would hurt them surely and then, when the person does CTB, maybe they'll think they ought to have seen the signs and done more.

As for me though- I'm already isolated from friends and family. Most friends I haven't seen in 5 years. Some, in decades. My larger family I haven't seen in over 20 years. I'm waiting for my last remaining close family member to go first anyway. So- it wouldn't feel right for me to suddenly start being a part of their lives again only to suddenly leave. I'm hoping the distance will help. If there is any guilt to be felt that they 'missed the signs'- it simply won't apply because they weren't here to see them.
 
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ctvunny

dead
Jun 18, 2023
115
I do think so. Ill hang out with friends and family like the usual but will be more attentive to them now since I dont want them to see like after I have done it that they only saw me as distant. I say socialize then say that Im "busy" and wait for about 3 months so we are all busy in our own lives again then I can count my days from there.
 
Holu

Holu

Hypomania go brrr
Apr 5, 2023
673
Getting closer seems like it would only serve to hurt others. Best to cut ties to mitigate damage.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,887
I would personally see it as best to socially isolate from other people as then those people could likely just forget and instead they will focus on their own existence.
 
Sapphire

Sapphire

Student
Nov 22, 2022
186
Closer. Always. People will cherish the last good moments they had with you and won't feel guilty about noticing that you've been distant and doing nothing about it.

If someone notices that a relative or close friend is acting out of character or isolating themselves from people all of a sudden, and they chose to ignore this behavior and do nothing to help them, then they should feel guilty.

Obviously if they really cared for this person, they would be worried about their strange behavior and would take the time to call them or visit them and ask them if everything is ok. They would let them know that if something is wrong, they will try their best to help them. If more people did this, the suicide rate would go down significantly.

People usually know whether someone really cares about them or not by the way they treat them. Someone who is going through the most difficult time of their life and about to die, should not spend what little time they have left with someone who they know doesn't care about them and pretend to be happy just so this person doesn't feel guilty for not helping them when they could have.
 
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tabby

experiencing the horrors
Aug 16, 2023
35
If someone notices that a relative or close friend is acting out of character or isolating themselves from people all of a sudden, and they chose to ignore this behavior and do nothing to help them, then they should feel guilty.

Obviously if they really cared for this person, they would be worried about their strange behavior and would take the time to call them or visit them and ask them if everything is ok. They would let them know that if something is wrong, they will try their best to help them. If more people did this, the suicide rate would go down significantly.

People usually know whether someone really cares about them or not by the way they treat them. Someone who is going through the most difficult time of their life and about to die, should not spend what little time they have left with someone who they know doesn't care about them and pretend to be happy just so this person doesn't feel guilty for not helping them when they could have.
I don't suggest doing this with people you know don't care, this is only for people you really love.
 
StolenLife

StolenLife

Warlock
Sep 19, 2022
740
I personally think that it's better to socially isolate as it involves less pain for everyone else after ctb. It might minimize the guilt that the loved ones feel and it might come off as less of a shock to them.
 
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Takamagahara

Takamagahara

Seeker Of Heaven
Aug 8, 2023
142
I've isolated and successfully ensured that the impact of my passing will be minimal.

When you read suicide bereavement posts and such, most everyone talks about how they've had to make adjustments to their routines or what have you because the person is gone. Thankfully, I'm not a part of anyone's routine, so they'll move on pretty quickly, as I was never a major player in their lives anyway.
 
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Gonnerr

Enlightened
Mar 12, 2023
1,322
Its better to isolate, less pain on them. If you are too close , they will also blame themselves for not seeing it.

Im doing that right now , im only seeing 1 friend , but for the pain i would cause him if i ctb, i will leave him a lot of money. He is in my will.