@Harasaki I don't believe in that concept. I personally get your point of view, yeah, they did that and now I'm here.. but teenagers/early 20s are so horny that's a ridiculous concept to have a belief in considering how many people are in the world that don't feel like we do. Your parents didn't choose who was going to enter your life besides your family members that they took you to see or people they introduced you to.. after a certain point they really can't control what happens. I would reframe your mindset to resent other things because when we were kids we didn't have the concept of "when you leave that front door nobody else gives a fuck about you" but (hopefully) they never made it seem that way when you lived at home. Antinatalism is the absurd belief two teenagers are always going to have a condom on hand.
…bro.
You're saying human beings have no sense of self control?
Humans literally have the ability to starve themselves to death by avoiding a much more significant necessity (food), surely we are capable of keeping it in our pants or waiting until we have proper protection in order (as well as having open communication about what should occur in the event of an unplanned pregnancy).
Especially in modern times, there is far less room for excuses, and even if there were, it does not make the decision to have children a morally or ethically sound one.
Not everyone is the result of a teen pregnancy (or an accidental one) and plenty of people in their 20's know better.
Having a child or entering into a situation where a pregnancy is likely is 100% avoidable beyond select scenarios like rape, being barred from an abortion, being manipulated with fake or 'tampered with' contraceptives, or being so painfully young that you truly don't know what the fuck you are doing (which does not include most people's 20's).
Even children in underdeveloped countries without health/sexual education are seeing the unfairness of the imposition via their parent's decision, some of this is common sense.
And even if a mistake is made, it should not be swept under the rug, I respect parents who see the error of their ways, not the ones who want to shift blame until their last day.
Who set off the domino effect? Who?
Just because they're not in control of what happens after does not mean they don't have responsibility in what leads to it.
They can't control what happens?
Well, fucking exactly.
So why are they rolling that dice on a human life?
A kid could pop out with any manner of godforsaken detriments and disabilities and they don't give a damn.
A kid could be eaten up by the world, chewed over and spit out, then trampled on like dog shit.
And what do parents say?
"Not my problem" "Not my fault" ??
If you cannot guarantee a life worth living for your child then WHY oh WHY are you having them?
Just because? Everyone else is doing it?
To keep pumping out those humans?
Immortalize the gene pool?
Fuck it, let's see what happens?
There is plenty of blame to go around, I'll give you that much, but parents are far from exempt, that is the crux of the opening post, plenty of other threads to throw blame at other people deserving of it.
I have told this story before here on SS, so I will try and keep this brief. My "parents" 1st had a son, and my "mom" wanted a girl, so they tried for a 2nd time and got me. Both of my "parents" hated the fact that I was male baby, but back in the 1950's it was taboo as far as being married and giving a baby up for adoption, so they kept me. They tried the 3rd time and got a girl.
Till I was 18 and they kicked me out, my "parents were horrible to me. My "dad" used me as a punching bag and any extra money was always spent on my brother and sister.
Like I stated before, when I turned 18, they kicked me out and I never heard from my "parents" again ever, their choice 100%.
When my "parents" died they left my younger sister a hobby farm and cash, my older brother got 4 million U.S. dollars and I got ZERO.
I have not heard from either my brother or sister since 1990, and after my "parents" died I sent them an email asking if I could have 1 item as an heirloom and they said that I could go to court and try if I wanted, besides that the answer was a no.
This is why, for me, everyone on SS is my family that I never ever had.
Walter
Jesus Christ Walter, I am so sorry to hear of your story.
I have always found parental favoritism and unfair distribution of assets (or cutting people out of the will) to be particularly despicable.
If my parents ever did that to my siblings and I was left with any type of inheritance, I would absolutely share it with them (even if I hated their guts!).
But something tells me they would never do the same for me..
I was told of a very similar story recently about an in-law who had this happen to them via a grandparent's wealth (cut her out of the will at the last second apparently, left the hoard to the half-siblings), and supposedly she even had a good relationship with her grandparent and all of her siblings, yet I don't think they shared a dime with her once it was said and done, and suddenly one of them was upset with her for
being upset.
I was thoroughly repulsed when I heard about this.
And guess where this poor in-law of mine is now?
Deceased.
I won't speak on the details as to respect her privacy, but it was not of natural causes.
Her life was already difficult and I can't imagine that having something like this occur didn't have an exceedingly disastrous effect on her.
What a horrible thing for anyone to go through, I now appreciate and understand your sense of found family with SS even more. I'm glad you are a part of this forum!
Nope. I didn't ask to be born, they didn't ask to be born but we were and that's that. It's not like it was a problem until something went wrong.
I think one of the few things we cannot blame our parents for, is making the same mistake (arguably the most consequential decision a person could make) that they did.
If I ever decided to have children (not happening), that is 100% on me.
I can't stand those who expect their parents to help raise and financially support their own children (their parent's grandchildren) especially if there are other siblings still in need of their parent's support.