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dogemn

dogemn

All the nights I don't die
May 30, 2023
74
I've never experienced love nor had sex. Do you think I'll be missing out if I CTB?
 
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LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

Angelic
Jul 23, 2022
4,397
If you wanted to experience those things then yes. That's just the nature of it.
 
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ivetried089

ivetried089

im tired.
Apr 12, 2025
11
you'll be missing out on the rest of your life if you CTB. I would say that yeah, you'll be missing out in regards to sex and love, but if you're worried about missing out there are also so many other things you'd never experience that those aren't the only things you should be worried about. If nothing else curiosity about the things you haven't done yet could be a reason to stay around a bit just to see what they're like. Living isn't permanent (you can always decide to die later) but dying is (you can never go back and try those things).
 
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Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
912
When you're numb, none of that matters.
 
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Kanoh

Member
Dec 31, 2024
61
Won't matter in the slightest when you're dead. Don't even sweat about it.
 
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Pale_Rider

Pale_Rider

Paragon
Apr 21, 2025
941
With love, and sex comes arguments, heart break, and venereal disease. Depends on how you look at it. Of course Im being super critical there.
 
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Ijustcantanymore

Ijustcantanymore

Experienced
Nov 22, 2024
212
Only if you want those things. And really examine if you do. Because from birth we are indoctrinated to want those things by default without ever questioning whether we really want it. We're just "supposed" to.

But. Loneliness sucks. But romance and sex aren't the be all end all of what life is all about. Just one single aspect of it. You can do pretty okay without it. I do.
 
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indiannarose

New Member
Aug 6, 2025
2
Always wondered if it lives up to the hype. If anyone sees this, does it live up to it?
No. It's always limerance and they disappoint you, life's not a fairytale. The point of human attraction is to expand our population. That is now my view as a 30y/o. I am totally dead inside now though.
Looking back on when I thought I was in love, we were either dependent on each other or I was projecting a lot. It feels good in the moment, but it eventually settles into boredom. Love is a serious commitment, not a feeling.
 
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amerie

amerie

yes!
Oct 6, 2024
479
Love and sex are overrated. They're biological instincts that exist so we can procreate but people try to intellectualize and philosophize it into something a lot more than it is (which isn't a bad thing to cope on this earth and can be beneficial and I like everyone else also want to feel love) but you don't need it and it's not worth feeling like shit over.

Plus it makes people do crazy stuff, people contract STD's and have kids they hate over it and it's not even guaranteed that it'll benefit them in the long term.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
12,572
I imagine it's like everything in life- it could be really good. Not as good as the hype or, really bad. Without a crystal ball, none of us can really know.

The question I think is more- is the idea/ hope of it powerful enough to make you want to live and try to experience it? Is it enough to put yourself through trying to meet someone, dating etc. even?
 
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TheVanishingPoint

TheVanishingPoint

Student
May 20, 2025
195
Value isn't something inherent to objects or concepts; it's something created by our mind. An intrinsic value or meaning does not exist; rather, we attach meaning based on our needs, desires, or fears. Inquiring if something 'has value' implies surrendering our internal freedom, as value conceptualization is solely born out of an inner subjective act, and never, under any circumstances, from an objective truth. Diogenes of Sinope understood this thoroughly, attaining peace while washing leaves in a stream, completely indifferent to Plato's scorn and society's hierarchical value system. In this simple act, he exercised his own measure of value rather than society's dictate, and proved that the dignity or happiness of an action is an idea that exists solely in the mind of the doer.
 
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cowboypants

cowboypants

From milkyway
May 7, 2024
500
it's not like I have a choice. I am adapted to be on my own, which doesn't help
 
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notreallybored

Experienced
Nov 26, 2024
282
No. It's always limerance and they disappoint you, life's not a fairytale. The point of human attraction is to expand our population. That is now my view as a 30y/o. I am totally dead inside now though.
Looking back on when I thought I was in love, we were either dependent on each other or I was projecting a lot. It feels good in the moment, but it eventually settles into boredom. Love is a serious commitment, not a feeling.
ב''ה,
I'm basically on board with this perspective, though simultaneously I've had it weirder (don't ask), and the disappointment can come from every direction.

Two notes:

At some point the existence of all the fabled and screamed about "love" emotion is revealed to be about creating the situation of.. let's say, proximity and obligation and all that. Same with, well, lust, unless it truly is just a hookup to expensively get tested after.

Meanwhile, let's say you do care about someone and you're supposedly the more capable one via gender roles or health or youth or everything else. Then actually instantiating that love requires resources - income, living space, etc. - modern society is built to deny almost everyone (though as an *interpretation* of Torah, in my religious background this is why to do it when the past generation is around and suddenly their obligation and instinct to help and cheer on the grandkids will kick in)..

It's kinda fucked. 'Got each other and that's enough' is definitely bullshit, unless you're actually built to survive doing that, possibly without enough to even support one person.

I genuinely have the incredibly fucked 'only exists when G-d wants it to' perspective now, but it *is* a real be careful what you wish for, because, y'know, feeling the emotion maybe feels good like heroin feels good to its fans, but you've got to be able to support the whole scenario and that's bare economics, plus if you're young enough to still be horny there's plenty of opportunities to fight over what y'all get aroused by, bachelor party stuff, etc.

Technically you'd think there's so much in the world that anyone would have a chance to eventually experience this in the lasting supposedly healthy that's life and now you're doing it as a couple until you die way, but somehow it doesn't necessarily go like that, you've got to be more than 110% up to sustain that and most folks aren't and don't even know or care what's involved to even from the romcom level, they're just screaming incel noise or that all men are pigs and every variant in between.. so, you may get lucky if you're not completely destroyed over it, but I dunno.

A strange quirk that not everyone gets is, this also depends on if you can manage both sexual and relationship-cohabitation compatibility with whoever you find and they're not more interested in the fight and the drama than that effort. In US culture throughout history most are also in it *just to have somewhere to live,* so, I suppose if you want to try it get a place and then see if you don't wake up with all your stuff and supposed partner missing someday, etc.

That said if you can have some good flings in, y'know, college or high school before all this kicks in, that's when it even has anything enjoyable before the reality sinks in, and authority may actually do something like require putting half your dorm room back if it goes awry and so on. In the real world it's often just miserable, and if from my religious minority I barely fit into, y'know, you lose all community support forever unless you do marriage first, possibly arranged to not snub the matchmakers and their fees.
No. It's always limerance and they disappoint you, life's not a fairytale. The point of human attraction is to expand our population. That is now my view as a 30y/o. I am totally dead inside now though.
Looking back on when I thought I was in love, we were either dependent on each other or I was projecting a lot. It feels good in the moment, but it eventually settles into boredom. Love is a serious commitment, not a feeling.
ב''ה,
I'm basically on board with this perspective, though simultaneously I've had it weirder (don't ask), and the disappointment can come from every direction.

Two notes:

At some point the existence of all the fabled and screamed about "love" emotion is revealed to be about creating the situation of.. let's say, proximity and obligation and all that. Same with, well, lust, unless it truly is just a hookup to expensively get tested after.

Meanwhile, let's say you do care about someone and you're supposedly the more capable one via gender roles or health or youth or everything else. Then actually instantiating that love requires resources - income, living space, etc. - modern society is built to deny almost everyone (though as an *interpretation* of Torah, in my religious background this is why to do it when the past generation is around and suddenly their obligation and instinct to help and cheer on the grandkids will kick in)..

It's kinda fucked. 'Got each other and that's enough' is definitely bullshit, unless you're actually built to survive doing that, possibly without enough to even support one person.

I genuinely have the incredibly fucked 'only exists when G-d wants it to' perspective now, but it *is* a real be careful what you wish for, because, y'know, feeling the emotion maybe feels good like heroin feels good to its fans, but you've got to be able to support the whole scenario and that's bare economics, plus if you're young enough to still be horny there's plenty of opportunities to fight over what y'all get aroused by, bachelor party stuff, etc.

Technically you'd think there's so much in the world that anyone would have a chance to eventually experience this in the lasting supposedly healthy that's life and now you're doing it as a couple until you die way, but somehow it doesn't necessarily go like that, you've got to be more than 110% up to sustain that and most folks aren't and don't even know or care what's involved to even from the romcom level, they're just screaming incel noise or that all men are pigs and every variant in between.. so, you may get lucky if you're not completely destroyed over it, but I dunno.

A strange quirk that not everyone gets is, this also depends on if you can manage both sexual and relationship-cohabitation compatibility with whoever you find and they're not more interested in the fight and the drama than that effort. In US culture throughout history most are also in it *just to have somewhere to live,* so, I suppose if you want to try it get a place and then see if you don't wake up with all your stuff and supposed partner missing someday, etc.

That said if you can have some good flings in, y'know, college or high school before all this kicks in, that's when it even has anything enjoyable before the reality sinks in, and authority may actually do something like require putting half your dorm room back if it goes awry and so on. In the real world it's often just miserable, and if from my religious minority I barely fit into, y'know, you lose all community support forever unless you do marriage first, possibly arranged to not snub the matchmakers and their fees.
 
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Alexandra_

Alexandra_

Don't Fear the Reaper
Sep 30, 2023
559
I am incapable of love. I cannot be in my body. I only regret that I was born. And I want to get out of this world as soon as possible. My life is a daily nightmare 😭
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
3,594
No

I can write a 1000 page book on why life is a scam torture slavery prison an evil imposition

A few things out of hundreds that sum on top of each other is that life is short and we all will die and not remember any of the fleeting garbage we did

Nothing matters after we die. We all will die . And its soon cause how fast did the last 5 years pass.?

Nothing matters while im alive now except me avoiding unbearable pain and extreme suffering
 
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Wolf Girl

Wolf Girl

"This place made me feel worthless"
Jun 12, 2024
471
Honestly? If I could, I would go back in time to before I ever fell in love and ctb so I would never experience a broken heart...

It's not worth it. It's just not.
 
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