Do you look forward to AI replacing our jobs? Do you think society would collapse with mass unemployment?

[noname223]

In the past technology replaced physical work. But more and more AI replaces intellectual work.

Personally, for my life it would be better if AI replaced many or most jobs under the right circumstances. With that I mean there is a strong taxation on the profits made with AI. (which is rather unlikely)

I probably will never be able to work. I will be dependent on welfare and nursing care money. It could be enough to survive but I am not sure. Especially, the nursing care money increases the chance to survive. By the way I only got it because someone on her told me about it. Lol.

For me personally, a massive surge in unemployment could be good. There would be less stigmatization of unemployed people. (which could increase my chance on the dating market lol)However, extreme parties could rise even further. And enforce politics against people like me.

There is a debate whether humans need work. I know there is the argument in favor of a universal basic income that in agrarian societies something like nowadays jobs did not exist. Jobs like the ones we know in the modern sense are a newer phenomenon. Tbh I am not sure whether that's true. A German very controversial "intellectual" claimed that. I think he might cannot be trusted. I searched for it. There were jobs but more self-sustaining jobs in one's own family. Never trust Richard David Precht.

Do you think humans need work or do they only need an income? Personally, I think this might depend on the person. Or education.

 

[Nadienobody]

Yes, I want to be replaced by AI. At some point, the whole system will be forced to change, but I don't think we'll see it in our lifetime. In the short term, I believe the consequences will be negative, and there will be a lot of resistance to change. Still, I think technology is the only way society will ever reach an acceptable state.

Modern work is not natural for humans. If it were, we would've evolved to enjoy it the way we enjoy food or sex. But most people hate their jobs. Since we're intelligent, evolution didn't need to shape us into that behavior.

It's true that a large part of a person's value in today's society comes from their work, but that doesn't make work a fundamental part of human nature. It's more about meeting societal expectations and trying to fit in.

 

[whatishope]

As someone working in IT, I highly doubt AI will replace jobs anytime soon. There is a lot of marketing around it right now (for good reason. AI companies are getting hundreds of billions in investment from all this hype), but the actual reality is a lot more complicated. Automated systems are measured to a different standard and tolerance for error then people are. In general, it's understood by everyone that people make errors and with communication, we can solve most of these.

There is little room for error with automated systems. Without a human on the other side, it's usually very hard to remedy errors. For this reason, any automated process usually has to beat humans in error margin by 100:1 or even 1000:1 (meaning a machine has to be 100/1000 times less error-prone then an average human). I don't see this level of precision happening anytime soon. A good example is self-driving technology: we already have self-driving cars, and self-driving cars that cause accidents around 10 times less often then people. We had functional prototypes in 2018 or so (I studied one such case in uni in 2019). 7 years later, still no self driving cars.

 

[Ferdinand Bardamu]

In theory, yes. It'll only work in a prosperous society without Socio-Economic parasites. In reality, no because it'll just drain wealth as there would be too many Lebensunwertes Leben who would ruin Society without a job.

 

[Cauliflour]

AI is just a dangerous fad to milk money out of the stupid rich investors who are incapable of seeing anything beyond the next 5 seconds. It takes too much power and water to be sustainable in the long run. Not to mention because of all the AI slop on the internet, it's self cannibalising itself because it can't tell what's genuine or not. It's gonna be rough the future but I bet modern AI will be dead and buried within the next 4 years.

 

[cemeteryismyhome]

Even if AI does end up taking a lot jobs away, our rulers will always find a way to keep us little people running around in circles, too tired, too desperate, always on the edge, to keep us under control. They will find a way to use us for something, fear not.

 

[TBONTB]

I get stuck on the economy working without people working. Sure ai can do jobs, but if people don't have jobs who will buy things? And if way fewer people have jobs who will buy things? And therefore how will rich people get rich.

I'm not naysaying that AI is here, and powerful, and transforming. I'm just scratching my head about how we can all integrate.

Let's wish each other luck!!

 

[Dejected 55]

We need to get to a place where all these functions are automated and reliable and as such cost very little to maintain, in which case they don't need to charge much to run... in which case the economy has to evolve. We really should get to a place where most things run themselves and don't cost anything for people to use and so we can all live for free with our basic needs met. In the case of catastrophic failure or routine maintenance, people need to agree to have enough people around skilled to be able to do the maintenance and repair work required... and we wouldn't be paid for that work because our "pay" is in all the free stuff we have all the time because of the system running as designed.

Most people wouldn't have to work most of the time, and that would be okay... as long as enough people rotationally are willing to put in the minimal time required to keep the system up. Beyond that, we could all have a lot of free time to pursue whatever we want or do other things to make money and then those luxuries we want to have could be bought with that.

I'm surprised, AI or not, that our economy hasn't collapsed already frankly the way companies and rich folks are so greedy to squeeze every penny out of everything.

 

[OhWellDerp321]

In the past technology replaced physical work. But more and more AI replaces intellectual work.

Personally, for my life it would be better if AI replaced many or most jobs under the right circumstances. With that I mean there is a strong taxation on the profits made with AI. (which is rather unlikely)

I probably will never be able to work. I will be dependent on welfare and nursing care money. It could be enough to survive but I am not sure. Especially, the nursing care money increases the chance to survive. By the way I only got it because someone on her told me about it. Lol.

For me personally, a massive surge in unemployment could be good. There would be less stigmatization of unemployed people. (which could increase my chance on the dating market lol)However, extreme parties could rise even further. And enforce politics against people like me.

There is a debate whether humans need work. I know there is the argument in favor of a universal basic income that in agrarian societies something like nowadays jobs did not exist. Jobs like the ones we know in the modern sense are a newer phenomenon. Tbh I am not sure whether that's true. A German very controversial "intellectual" claimed that. I think he might cannot be trusted. I searched for it. There were jobs but more self-sustaining jobs in one's own family. Never trust Richard David Precht.

Do you think humans need work or do they only need an income? Personally, I think this might depend on the person. Or education.

What would you really do all day if you didn't work? I mean it would feel great the first bit. But then eventually you will become bored and still want to work.

 

[Pluto]