TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,710
I honestly think the success has more to deal with luck. Another random aspie can easily become a super geniuses if they have some other life experiences. Or Einstein & Newton could just die with nobody knowing their names.
But yes, most of us ended up not in the "lucky" category. And ended up have a some-what miserable life.
I still think the society might improve in term of their awareness for Autism's. In the past years, the society "offers" people with mental disorder and disability a better environment. Same thing could happen to Autism's as well.
That's true too (to some degree). Luck and other factors outside of one's control cannot be overlooked and despite what popular opinion in society says, I think it's a significant factor (at least a third to slightly over half) in whether someone on the spectrum will be successful or not.
 
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mouseteeth

Member
Dec 2, 2019
65
I strongly suspect that I am high functioning. I've reflected a lot on my childhood and my behavior was definitely in line with the criteria, and in many ways still is, I'm just self-aware of it now.
 
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I_love_to_bake

Student
Feb 27, 2020
167
That's true too (to some degree). Luck and other factors outside of one's control cannot be overlooked and despite what popular opinion in society says, I think it's a significant factor (at least a third to slightly over half) in whether someone on the spectrum will be successful or not.
Objectively speaking, almost all of your life is defined by luck. Like 95% of it. The reason people don't talk about this and even claim that luck has nothing to do with success are doing so because it's an unproductive mindset. If you make yourself believe that you are in control of your life, you will be less depressed, more motivated to succeed, etc.

Personally, I think neurotypical people are just better at this than those on the spectrum. The skill of creating your own reality to suit your needs. Also, people with autism seem to be natural truth seekers and deep thinkers. They aren't content with lying to themselves. It's jarring.

I don't think most neurotypical people are aware of how much they are lying to themselves to create a beneficial reality. When the autistic person begins to break down their illusions with basic logic they react viciously and defensively.

Truth is, reality is depressing. Think about the happiest person you know. Do they live in reality?
 
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Eren

Eren

Si hablas español mándame un MP
Oct 27, 2018
1,073
I am not diagnosed, but I feel very identified, I think I should go to a specialist to get a diagnosis, I feel identified with most of the symptoms, and it would clarify many things about me.
 
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Ko9

Student
Jun 30, 2019
159
Autistic as fuck. All of the wish list. Akward, ugly, cringy, socially blind and unable to function. Yaaaaaaaaay
 
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Bob_Luman

Student
Feb 19, 2020
129

I have Asperger symptoms, which I believe plays a huge factor why I'm suicidal.

By reading many of your posts, I suspect lots of you might have Autism or Asperger symptoms as well. Such as experiencing the urge feeling, lacking of social support based on poor social skills, and many more symptoms.
I do despite its mild and not many people notice I have it, the things which I am mainly affected by is the speed which I learn things in comparison to others. Information on this website can be difficult for me to understand because of my Aspergers.i struggle to visualise information that isnt in a video if the written threads are really long.
 
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LifeSimulacra

New Member
Dec 27, 2019
4
Objectively speaking, almost all of your life is defined by luck. Like 95% of it. The reason people don't talk about this and even claim that luck has nothing to do with success are doing so because it's an unproductive mindset. If you make yourself believe that you are in control of your life, you will be less depressed, more motivated to succeed, etc.

Personally, I think neurotypical people are just better at this than those on the spectrum. The skill of creating your own reality to suit your needs. Also, people with autism seem to be natural truth seekers and deep thinkers. They aren't content with lying to themselves. It's jarring.

I don't think most neurotypical people are aware of how much they are lying to themselves to create a beneficial reality. When the autistic person begins to break down their illusions with basic logic they react viciously and defensively.

Truth is, reality is depressing. Think about the happiest person you know. Do they live in reality?

This is basically it. I could never sustain a false optimism, delusions of "being in control" or being too hopeful. Things crumble and I'm too engaged with searching for some kind of truth (I'd think depressive realism fits that category) to bullshit myself.

This, in turn, destroys my social interactions. I'm too aware of the fake in life, of the condescending attitudes, of the need of neurotypical people to interact and bullshit their way through life. I'm an alien, I end up ghosting people, alone, or with a few friends that are the only ones not to treat me like garbage and a negative piece of shit.

Society is not made for people like us. I'm not diagnosed but I have a lot of symptoms including hypersensibility to noises and textures. I must be high-functional but the ostracism and the clumsiness makes me look like an idiot, like a child. I'm depressed and anxious too, to add to the mix.
 
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Squiddy

Squiddy

Here Lies My Hopes And Dreams
Sep 4, 2019
5,903
I was diagnosed by my first therapist with asperger's, but I think I was misdiagnosed and am currently diagnosed with bipolar, BPD and anxiety by my current psychiatrist.
 
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Depressedtoolong

Member
Mar 30, 2020
11
A clinical psychologist i was referred to by my main therapist thought I had autistic spectrum disorder/aspergers and wrote this in a report he sent to my main therapist. Both he and my main therapist then withheld this from me for 18 months.

I haven't been formally diagnosed. I'm in my 30s so there doesn't seem much point.
 
muffin222

muffin222

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2020
1,188
Yes. I have Aspergers. It's a big reason why I'm considering suicide. Sometimes I just feel overwhelmed by sheer despair when I try to communicate with people and they constantly misunderstand me. It's like speaking another language in a world where everyone expects you to just "get" it naturally. It seems like people around me consistently misinterpret my intentions and assign their own (often very negative) meanings to the things I say and do. I look very "normal" and would be considered conventionally attractive, which makes it worse, actually.

People expect me to be a certain way automatically based on my appearance. When I don't act according to their expectations, people tend to get very weird... cold, dismissive. Furthermore, most people don't even BELIEVE me when I tell them I'm autistic because I, "seem so normal". No, I don't. You just put me in a box where you gloss over my "weird" traits and mold me into something you want me to be. I constantly feel judged and invalidated. People think I just claim to be autistic as an excuse or to get attention. They say they "don't see it".
They don't see it because they have the stereotypical image of an autistic person wearing a helmet and poring over train schedules or rubix cubes or some other obscure, scientific, or "quirky" interest. Autistic women and girls, especially if we're "pretty" or not geeky, get ignored and erased, even by autism supporters.

It's maddening. Sometimes I feel so frustrated and disheartened and discouraged by all of the limitations my autism invokes on me + the lack of support, understanding, or empathy I get from people around me. Things that are easy for other people are hard for me. I feel like a failure sometimes because I can't get it together the way other people can. I have no friends because I can't maintain the friendships and I struggle to grasp social cues and nuances.

It just fills me with despair. Despair is not hyperbole either...it's the best way I can describe how my experience feels at times. It all seems so hopeless because this is who I am; my brain was formed in this way prior to birth, and it will never change. The suicide rate for autistic people may seem grim and baffling to neurotypicals, but, to me, it makes perfect sense.

Sorry this turned into a rant :ahhha: This topic just hits close to home for me. Hopefully this resonates with someone else out there as well. It's a tough hand of cards to be dealt.
 
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Suez

Experienced
Feb 27, 2020
279
I was diagnosed with Aspergers when i was 45yrs old. I do suffer with other mental health issues as well, which i think masked some of the Aspergers symptoms, thus making diagnosis more difficult. Im at the higher end of the spectrum. Not sure whether thats a curse or a gd thing. I actually havent done much reading into Aspergers I must say, which is actually very unusual for me, as normally that would be the first thing i would do. I was distracted by other things in my life at the time (my diagnosis was made when i was already commited to a Psychiatric hospital for other mental health issues), so that, in addition to some other things, took my attention. I would, however be interested to learn more about Aspergers. The one aspect of Aspergers which has defeated me my whole life is my inability to form relationships or to be able to navigate the social world. I just dont seem to understand other people, their feelings.my feelings. what their trying to tell me, understanding their emotions and expressions. I just dont seem to pick up on any of their cues, thus i just dont seem to fit....anywhere. Altho having just said that, when i entered uni to study medicine, that fit...it fit really well. I was a veracious reader, loved learning, so study for me was the most amazing experience, it made sense to me. For the first time in my life i managed to find something that really made sense to me. But what became apparent in later years after graduation and entering the work force was that i while i was probably the best Dr you would want to go and see, in terms of my ability (my brain was like a medical encyclopedia), social interactions were a real strain for me so i ended up diverting my attentions towards medical research. I started & finished a PhD, with my usual success.. From what little information i have about Aspergers, Im keen to learn more. The little i have read has been such an eye opener to me, its as if im looking in the mirror and really seeing myself for the first time. Does it feel like that to other people with Aspergers as they start to learn about the condition for the first time?
 
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Black Swan

Black Swan

Member
Mar 18, 2020
6
I'm schizoid and it's often mistaken for Autism or Aspengers. But since it's spectrum, most people are on it. It's just rarely severe enough to be called Autism or Aspergers... But I definitely have problems with body and so emotionally aloof parts of me... But then again they can be attributed to SPD too....
 
Suez

Suez

Experienced
Feb 27, 2020
279
I'm schizoid and it's often mistaken for Autism or Aspengers. But since it's spectrum, most people are on it. It's just rarely severe enough to be called Autism or Aspergers... But I definitely have problems with body and so emotionally aloof parts of me... But then again they can be attributed to SPD too....
Hey there, while i have Aspergers as well, I was actually diagnosed with schizophrenia when i was younger. Recently i just happened to be reading a report that was written about me. This may help you. It reads.....People that present with Schizoid or avoidant personalities can be recognised by interpersonal detachment, eccentric behaviours and beliefs and a cognitively dysfunctional orientation. Similar individuals prefer social isolation with minimal personal attachments and obligations. These individuals may be perceived by others as strange or different. Cognitively they may seem "autistic" or confused with tangetial thinking or appear self absorbed. An elevated schizoid personality score suggests involvement of Aspergers syndrome or its features.
 
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Eren

Eren

Si hablas español mándame un MP
Oct 27, 2018
1,073
A while ago I had my first visit with the psychiatrist, he said he could have Asperger, they will test me, I have really suspected him all my life.

I look very "normal" and would be considered conventionally attractive, which makes it worse, actually.

People expect me to be a certain way automatically based on my appearance. When I don't act according to their expectations, people tend to get very weird... cold, dismissive. Furthermore, most people don't even BELIEVE me when I tell them I'm autistic because I, "seem so normal". No, I don't. You just put me in a box where you gloss over my "weird" traits and mold me into something you want me to be. I constantly feel judged and invalidated. People think I just claim to be autistic as an excuse or to get attention. They say they "don't see it".
They don't see it because they have the stereotypical image of an autistic person wearing a helmet and poring over train schedules or rubix cubes or some other obscure, scientific, or "quirky" interest.

I understand you perfectly, in some I seem "normal" and some people believe that I am being a hypochondriac when I tell them about my possible autism. It's really frustrating because I can't even express my autism-related problems because others don't take me seriously.

The paradoxical thing is that later these same people notice (and affirm) my "oddities", such as my mother, it is really frustrating.
 
sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that’s just me
Sep 13, 2023
9,012

I have Asperger symptoms, which I believe plays a huge factor why I'm suicidal.

By reading many of your posts, I suspect lots of you might have Autism or Asperger symptoms as well. Such as experiencing the urge feeling, lacking of social support based on poor social skills, and many more symptoms.
Yeah I have it as well as ADHD and social anxiety. Asperger's/autism is a main reason why I'm suicidal. Fuck this condition! I hate it so much. I hate that we have to live in a social world. The worst thing is that I look normal and people just think I'm weird or quirky. I've never fit in anywhere due to ASD.
Hey there, while i have Aspergers as well, I was actually diagnosed with schizophrenia when i was younger. Recently i just happened to be reading a report that was written about me. This may help you. It reads.....People that present with Schizoid or avoidant personalities can be recognised by interpersonal detachment, eccentric behaviours and beliefs and a cognitively dysfunctional orientation. Similar individuals prefer social isolation with minimal personal attachments and obligations. These individuals may be perceived by others as strange or different. Cognitively they may seem "autistic" or confused with tangetial thinking or appear self absorbed. An elevated schizoid personality score suggests involvement of Aspergers syndrome or its features.
I think I've developed AVPD and become a schizoid due to Asperger's.
Diagnosed Asperger's after paying to get a diagnosis last year, lived in isolation for years with parents, father has traits of "high functioning" Autism but hasn't been assessed & mother had tell tale signs of Diogenes syndrome (hoarding, hygiene) & manic depression, everyday she'd say today was worse than the previous & she wish she was dead; cancer saw to that in the end.

Bullied at school resulting in a lot of non attendance & lived in a highly negative ghetto for years with racism issues due to being in a minority on a local scale. No friends network, no family support other than father & no relationships. Extreme poverty didn't help either tbf.

Interacting with ppl is not fun.
Yeah I agree, I hate interacting with people as well. I was also bullied during (middle) school. People suck
 
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RichardFirst

Specialist
Jan 16, 2021
383
As a teenager, I had appalling social skills. Even as an adult, I'm not entirely comfortable with company. However, I do not being myself to be autistic. Rather, I think that my difficulties stem from my father's verbal abuse of me as a child, and my subconsciously knowing that I was an unwanted child. Kids pick up on things that adults try to hide.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
37,395
Yes and I'm not surprised that so many who want to die do. I know that in my case I'm certainly not meant for existing.
 
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girlwithflaxenhair0

seeking friends, or partner to ctb w in SoCal pm m
Sep 20, 2023
56
I was diagnosed when I was young, but I really doubt that I do. my current therapist doesn't think I do either ,I'm just extremely shy and insecure, and i probably have something else instead of autism
 
sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that’s just me
Sep 13, 2023
9,012
Yes and I'm not surprised that so many who want to die do. I know that in my case I'm certainly not meant for existing.
Same! It's like I'm not fit or meant to exist in this world
 
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AllCatsAreGrey

they/he
Sep 27, 2023
281
I haven't been diagnosed (due to huge cost in my country). I've taken loads of screeners online and done research. I'm pretty convinced I'm autistic. It makes sense to me that a lot of us here are.
 
howcanigo

howcanigo

another day without saying what i want to say?
Sep 9, 2023
45
i have 'level 2' autism, i was diagnosed as autistic as a toddler and no one told me i was autistic until i was a teenager (i was told mostly that i was 'sensitive' and had 'special needs' but never was told what that meant) so i just thought i was bad at being human in general. i have a lot of shame with my autistic traits and not being able to go to school or work but i try my hardest to function at least.
 
sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that’s just me
Sep 13, 2023
9,012
i have 'level 2' autism, i was diagnosed as autistic as a toddler and no one told me i was autistic until i was a teenager (i was told mostly that i was 'sensitive' and had 'special needs' but never was told what that meant) so i just thought i was bad at being human in general. i have a lot of shame with my autistic traits and not being able to go to school or work but i try my hardest to function at least.
I'm level 1/Asperger's but I have trouble functioning in the real world. I was able to function up until I graduated college, but not in the real world or workforce. I also feel like I'm bad at being human, I don't even feel like one in the first place. I feel like an imposter just copying what everyone else is doing, I don't even want to do these things though
 
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Alltheywanted

Alltheywanted

I'll just lay here and die
Mar 6, 2023
331
I have Asperger's syndrome, but I was diagnosed at the age of 17. I had to learn how to be "normal" on my own because no one helped me. There were so many damn things that could have turned out differently if someone had helped me. But instead, people would laugh at me and even bully me. Every fucking time, because I wasn't like everyone else. yk, it hurts me a lot, even rn I cry, because I can't find any will to fight against all this shit that happened to me.
 
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J&L383

Arcanist
Jul 18, 2023
467
Aspers,depression the while nine yards as they say. Deffo a link dunno if I comes from not fitting socially or just not fitting in because of over anylsys of everything and every situation that brain just gets overwhelmed virtually at all times
Likely I have ASD, but undiagnosed due to difficulty finding an affordable (or any with the knowledge and experience) a provider. I believe both my mother and father were also on the spectrum. Simply, it makes more sense than it doesn't.
 
Wyldfyre4948

Wyldfyre4948

Waiting for my bus
Jul 12, 2023
377
I suspect that I have several undiagnosed issues. Probably have bpd, adhd, and am possibly on the spectrum. Not sure if I'll ever get diagnosed though.
 
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wendy5c

Brain dead Azn
Oct 11, 2023
24
I certainly lack social support, and seem to have crap social skills.
Having constant misunderstandings with other people and inescapable meltdowns at times will get to you eventually.
 
WaffleWoman

WaffleWoman

Ready to sleep
May 16, 2023
177
Diagnosed high functioning autism for me. Autism/aspergers has links to depression and anxiety and could be a reason why many here feel the way they do
 
Trakehner

Trakehner

Student
Apr 22, 2023
118
I wasn't diagnosed with ASD, but a similar condition. I don't think it's accurate though. Whatever I have, it doesn't change the fact that I will never be able to function in life like a normal person.
 

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