Do you fully support *impulsive* suicide?

[exiled]

Someone is just having a terrible day and wants it all to end. Should they just do it?

 

[ipmanwc0]

I don't think anyone is suicidal from a single bad day :/

 

[EternalShore]

No! xD People can choose, but they should never do so purely off of impulse! >_< They could've had an amazing day the next day purely off of impulse as well! >_<

 

[edu0z]

Someone is just having a terrible day and wants it all to end. Should they just do it?

That's why Futuramas suicide booths should never come true.

 

[strawb12]

I'm very against impulsive suicide. I think that if you arnt suicidal when you're calm & rational then suicide probably isn't the best option for you.

 

[Cryptonite]

The best thing is mixing them both – a rational planned suicide carried out by an impulsive trigger.

 

[day]

Suicide is a personal decision and I support people making their minds. I do believe that everyone should fully consider what they're doing but if they choose to I am in no position to question that choice.

 

[Seered Doom]

I would rather the person it through and make it meaningful in someway to their personal self rather than impulsivity.

 

[Lulzacruel]

impulsivity is mans worst enemy

 

[locked*n*loaded]

A lot of screw-ups can happen through impulsivity, not just in life, but in death, too.

 

[HappyForever?]

There is a good chance that a normal person who is having a bad day and attempt suicide impulsively will regret it. But people here have been contemplating suicide for a long time, many have very good reasons to CTB, and an impulsive decision may be required for people to overcome SI and CTB.

 

[Cloud Busting]

To me, suicide is a decision that ought to be weighed carefully. Some people are in a truly unsolvable situation, and in that scenario, no one should intervene.

I do personally think there are cases where suicidal people are too stressed to consider other options. While no one should be forced to live with pain, I do think helping people consider other options they may not know they have- or help them counter fallacies they may believe- is a net good. Ultimately it's up to the individual to decide- rational or not- but I could not rest in good conscious if I didn't try to at least help someone considering suicide for the wrong reasons.

I agree with other users that the context is important here. Acting on a long seated desire impulsively? Sure. Acting impulsively due to a suddenly stressful situation that may be totally fixable? I'd urge (yet never force) that person to reconsider.

 

[sserafim]

Someone is just having a terrible day and wants it all to end. Should they just do it?

I believe people should have the right to die. If they wanted to ctb from a bad day, they probably reached their breaking point from a lot of cumulative stress over time. Who am I to tell them not to?

 

[Cloud Busting]

I believe people should have the right to die. If they wanted to ctb from a bad day, they probably reached their breaking point from a lot of cumulative stress over time. Who am I to tell them not to?

At the end of the day, you are not responsible for anyone's feelings. If you do the right thing, enable a person to make the right choices, and they decline, you should respect their right to self-destruct (even if it hurts).

However, you don't feel an urge to at least try to help someone (knowing the risk you take is they may refuse your help?) I hate the adage "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" as much as most people here do, as it's not as universal as some think. For the cases that applies however, you don't feel compelled to help? Really?

I can't fathom that. Like at all. I like to see people reach their full potential and not throw it away. It's up to them to decide to not throw it away and not you, but I at least like to try before realizing they cannot be saved.

 

[ClaudeCTTE]

I have the misfortune of being a very impulsive person.
Anything can make me angry.
All the things that trigger anxiety and stress in me make me impulsive.
That's why my mind is filled with hatred.

I always try to stay away from anything that causes me anxiety and stress because I always end up breaking things and responding by shouting.

I stopped playing video games because they weren't good for my mental health; they just made me act recklessly with online players.

Impulsivity was one of the reasons I dropped out of college. My classmates and professors stressed me out so much that I wanted to punch them.

Seeing teenagers makes me sick; it makes me fantasize about hurting them, all because of the bad experiences I had in school.

I think I'm the reincarnation of D-Fens...

I'm the Bad Guy?

The good thing is that I don't live in a country where I can get weapons. I can't imagine what my impulsivity would be capable of...

 

[sammiechzxv]

No. It should be a long thought out decision.

 

[ddn.ctb]

The best thing is mixing them both – a rational planned suicide carried out by an impulsive trigger.

I tend to fall in that category. I have a plan, and waiting for that impulsive trigger to take me

 

[Unknown21]

Someone is just having a terrible day and wants it all to end. Should they just do it?

If they have a previous full plan then yes, it just will trigger u to do it.

I tend to fall in that category. I have a plan, and waiting for that impulsive trigger to take me

Same here.

 

[rainseahorse]

if the suicide wasn't planned out at all, i would hope they try to sleep on it for a few nights before deciding -- and actually planning it to avoid bad failure scenarios

 

[not_telling]

I believe that the impulse to die doesn't come from someone without reasons, and I think it's just as valid as the impulse to live. Being alive is something "demanded", but dying, no matter how much you want it, can always develop into tentacles of fear and conflict within oneself. The impulse that they can rarely get is the decisive factor to end that discution, to go for the rational choice of dying, which was led by the emotion of sadness, emptyness, you name it, itself. Without the impulse, getting what your mind wants can be virtually impossible, because your body is still controlled by it's own fairly strong subconscious, which I guess works quite a lot like, well, impulses.

 

[FuneralCry]

Nobody is obligated to continue existing for even a second longer than they wish to, I just don't think the decision to die is something for other people to have a say in, it's just not up to them. And I don't understand the view that suicide could ever be something wrong as nobody can suffer from not existing, death is the most normal and inevitable thing anyway.

I'd personally see it as preferable to not exist under all circumstances as existence is just a horrific and tragic mistake, existence is all meaningless anyway and is something so harmful that just leads to suffering. I envy anyone who manages to cease existing on their own terms as now they are at peace.

 

[WaffleWoman]

Its up to the person impulsive or not. Impulsive attempts is all I've had personally I believe its better to plan them out so you cant get something wrong but in the end its up to the person

 

[loopdaloop]

With the methods available and how scary it can be the process itself of dying, sometimes impulse is what the person needs to overcome that hurdle and ctb... the decision should be made up before the impulse but I think that impulsive suicide is sometimes done on purpose. I triggered myself in prior attempts to feel impulsive and overcome SI. it's difficult to die while all your primitive instincts are againts your decision to ctb...

 

[whywhywhy]

Nah even though this forum is filled with it.

I feel the decision to suicide should take at least some years to make sure while trying to challenge it yourself. People should be able to rationalize it without entering in the good old classic irrational arguments like "I deserve to die", "im the worst","everyone hates me". All distortions of reality designed to escape the actual truth which might be less extreme and motivating.

You are free to hate your life and understand why it would be extremely hard for you to enter what you consider a happy life but dont lie to yourself and actually try to make sure you understand why you are really unhappy.

 

[FrostedHoax]

Even though there are some actually impulsive suicides, I feel like alot of what people call "impulsive" is really just something that finally pushed an already miserable person to the edge to make them finally pull the trigger and end their own lives. In these situations, these people that made an "impulsive" decision to commit suicide had already been thinking about doing it for a long time and whatever their stated reason is for choosing to commit suicide in that specific moment was just what finally made them decide that they've had enough of this life and make the final decision to go over to the other side. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's difficult to determine whether a suicide was truly impulsive or not and that you have to be careful with judging whether someone should be allowed to kill themselves on the basis of how seemingly premeditated their decision to do so was.

 

[Blurry_Buildings]

Ideally the person should know consistently for a while how and why they want to die.

I agree with frosted though that there is a difference between deciding to die on a random day after having given the method and the reason thought for months or years vs not thinking about it and coming up with a method on the day/week.

just imo though

 

[bret217]

For me the decisions is one that comes from the question: Will things improve, and am I going to be happy with my quality of life?
For me It's not going to improve, but I haven't quite reached the critical point of quality of life for me. I need to do more planning before that though, so I'm here.

 

[Cress]

Someone is just having a terrible day and wants it all to end. Should they just do it?

Suicide is generally something that wears down at you over time And usually those feelings of impulsivity are just your inclinations for self preservation finally starting to breakdown due to extremely stressful circumstances. The vast majority of people never experience Even a single suicidal episode in their entire life And thus it's one of the main reasons that there are communication issues in regards to suicideality.

However it is true that the small percent That do experience suicidality it's a very temporary episode often only resulting in one or two hospitalizations in their entire life. So I understand the general philosophy to try to attempt To prevent someone from hurting themselves until they come around as statistically it's considered effective. With that said the people on this forum Myself included are more chronic in their suicidality And in general I think something has to be going seriously wrong in life for you to even be considering Catching the bus.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I suppose I just can't picture this sort of thing. Are we talking about someone who has or had a great life but just suddenly wants to kill themselves? I expect they themselves would find the thought perplexing and intrusive and I imagine they would more than likely seek help. In fact- I knew someone like this. They noticed a dramatic mood change when their medication was changed. They didn't feel like these thoughts were 'normal' for them.

I get the impression the majority of people who commit suicide have already thought about it a great deal. They may have already made the decision that they are comfortable dying that way. So- is there decision impulsive? Maybe not. The act itself though, may be. It may be a case that their life is already bad- why else would they be suicidal in the first place? But then- one final thing triggers them to do it. Some people feel like they need impulsivity to get over SI.

I guess it depends on the circumstances. Some methods require a lot of preparation. If that person buys all the required items weeks, months or years before but uses them impulsively- is that truly impulsive?

Of course- people do sometimes act desperately- people here have taken SN impulsively. No fasting, no antiemetics, no measurement, too much water or they've taken it with milk- and failed. I think certain methods in particular don't work well with impulsivity. As a decision though- only that person themself would know if it was truly impulsive. I imagine, in most cases, it actually isn't though.

 

[movinout17]

No. I believe that there's many people who were glad they failed impulsive attempts. I've come across them, I don't think they're uncommon.
I'm happy about the consensus for these answers, I admit.