Do you feel alienated here because you...

[DefinitelyReady]

Do you feel isolated on the forums because you don't seem to have anything in common with the rest except for the obvious general feelings of mental anguish from clinical depression, anxiety, suidiality, etc??? Just don't relate to most people here so you are kind of stuck on the sidelines so to speak?? Completely different circumstances/situation than most?? No "real" common ground??
I do. :/

 

[lizzywizzy09]

Absolutely. Having a chronic illness and being 30+ puts me there by default.

I don't know, sometimes I feel like most have a chance for recovery but I don't. It's lonely.

 

[Eternal Eyes]

I do to some degree. I find the video games I talk about aren't too well known. My main hobby is also a gigantic niche in general, I doubt anyone here would be involved in it (I'd be delighted if they did, I love to ramble about my interests).

That said I've corresponded with lots of people here that I do like, and can relate to. I wish I could speak to more but even online I'm super anxious and I always worry if I've offended or upset people.

 

[whywere]

Well at my age, except for everyone here, as most are younger to a lot younger than me in the general world I am a live where so many of those that I graduated high school with are gone now, so alienated in life outside of SaSu, yes, here thou I find that I am part of something much bigger than me and also having a global family is so refreshing.

I send EVERYONE here hugs and lots of well wishes.

Walter

 

[banger12]

I feel alienated and isolated here but for separate reasons. It does help that the people here are seemingly kind and thus far have shown a lot of hospitality. But I understand what you mean and how you feel. At the same time I think people like you and me are who the forum is here to support. Best wishes.

 

[cait_sith]

It doesn't matter how fringe the group is I go to I always feel like an alien freak. Even in the psych ward I felt this way

 

[DefinitelyReady]

It doesn't matter how fringe the group is I go to I always feel like an alien freak. Even in the psych ward I felt this way

Oh I was definitely the one that "didn't belong" where I was at, both as a child and an adult. But I think that was a good thing...
It's gross to have had these experiences

 

[CatLvr]

Absolutely. Having a chronic illness and being 30+ puts me there by default.

I don't know, sometimes I feel like most have a chance for recovery but I don't. It's lonely.

Yep. All of the above.

 

[timetodie24]

To some extent yes. There are often posts I can relate to. However, many find my situation unusual so get (wrongly) told I shouldn't have free choice to ctb, that I could be helped, that I'm more unwell /mentally unstable than others on here etc. Which doesn't make sense to me as just want to ctb to end suffering and because i hate life, like many on here .

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I don't relate to a lot of people on here since a lot of other users have had pretty shitty life circumstances and suffer from mental illness and neither of those things apply to me. My life has been good and I don't have any mental illnesses, nor have I ever been mentally ill before.

My biggest reason for wanting to die originally was due to my self-hatred, not because of anything out of my control. Looking back, the hatred was (and still is) justified since I kind of suck and I have hurt a lot of people before, going as far back as elementary school. I still don't like myself, but it's not the main reason why I want to die anymore. As of now, my reason is just a lack of desire to live a long life. I'd prefer to die early rather than later.

Anyway, because of these differences I do end up feeling kind of alienated.

 

[tsykoais]

yeah, i mean i see a lot of people reject all positives that come with living and existing in general. i think there are a lot of good things that come with living but i'm suicidal because the bad outweighs the good in my life.

 

[YandereMikuMistress]

Yes, without a doubt.

 

[banger12]

yeah, i mean i see a lot of people reject all positives that come with living and existing in general. i think there are a lot of good things that come with living but i'm suicidal because the bad outweighs the good in my life.

I definitely agree with this perspective expressed here. Not to invalidate how those people feel, but to me CTB is more a result of a mental calculus I've done or hedging my bets than anything. There's stuff I enjoy about life and if it weren't for certain mental illnesses that make it hard to be happy and some recent bad turns life has taken I might not be in this position. So as much as I respect them it is hard to relate or fit in with individuals who have more difficulty finding any good.

 

[Minsu]

I think I do relate to at least SOME people here, usually they're 19-23

 

[Chili]

I've got pretty niche interests in general, but most people on here are nice. You can get along with anyone regardless if they've got similar interests online, I feel

 

[hawkshorizon]

Absolutely. Having a chronic illness and being 30+ puts me there by default.

I don't know, sometimes I feel like most have a chance for recovery but I don't. It's lonely.

I relate in terms of age. Reach out if you'd like to try and chat.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I agree with a lot things some people post on here . I agree much less with the normies and prolifers IRL and on the Internet

However I haven't seen anyone post some things that I believe about the fundamentals of reality like what am I what is a human, what is life , what is the universe etc . I haven't seen my thoughts anywhere not here not anywhere

This is not all of it not even a small bit of it :
For one thing if i ask people could u write a small essay on "what are you", "what is a human" "what is life ". What kind of answers would we get? I think people would have slightly different answers and nothing like my answers to that.

Life is just chemical reactions.

All living things are composed of cells . All living things evolved from a single cell

All Life on Earth Comes From One Single Ancestor. And It's So Much Older Than We Thought.

Scientists have pushed back LUCA’s origin by hundreds of millions of years.

www.popularmechanics.com

To me a human is just cells that first cell , a machine.

The brain is nerve cells connected in patterns. These brain connections were programmed by evolution and culture to have all kinds of needs and beliefs and to be able to suffer constant unbearable pain

There's much more but that shows to me life me etc is even less meaningful. Life is meaningless torture prison slavery an evil imposition

Nothing matters. What will matter u. 150 years? In 10,000 years? In A trillion years? Nothing .To me the only thing that matters is avoiding extreme pain extreme suffering

There is much more but just this most would think is insane

 

[Kavka]

Yes, but I always have these feelings of alienation, detachment and not quite belonging when I'm in social situations or communities. I know I probably sound like a teenager at the height of puberty, but I guess I just never grew out of it.

When it comes specifically to this forum, I don't think it's really unexpected to feel like you don't belong. The demographic is diverse and most of the posts are, by the nature of this forum, vents that I often don't really relate to.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Sort of. It's mostly self-imposed because I don't want to have to burden anyone with my awfulness.

 

[Ah.ow]

Do you feel isolated on the forums because you don't seem to have anything in common with the rest except for the obvious general feelings of mental anguish from clinical depression, anxiety, suidiality, etc??? Just don't relate to most people here so you are kind of stuck on the sidelines so to speak?? Completely different circumstances/situation than most?? No "real" common ground??
I do. :/

I thought exactly yes, except I don't see emotions clinically or use clinical terms for emotions usually

I feel in a twist to answer because if I say 'yes but' then I feel like I'm fitting the being alienated from eachother?

 

[rokonie]

I feel like I don't belong here because I haven't ever attempted. I just had strong feelings of wanting to die many times, and live every day with a general sense of wishing I wasn't here and apathy. But I've never been to the point where I've attempted to ctb and got close to it. That makes me feel like im faking it all.

 

[Ah.ow]

. Even in the psych ward I felt this way

can I ask if you can elaborate here?

i too feel
It doesn't matter how fringe the group is I go to I always feel alien

 

[Message In A Bottle]

I never really fit in with any group of people honestly… I've had delusions that I did for a little while though. And this place is no different unfortunately.

Usually turns into "wow, I've finally found my people!" to "oh…guess we aren't really alike after all. False alarm".

but I do have a overall affinity for this site…only place really that you can say "life sucks balls" and not catch any flack for it.

 

[mistymoo]

I'm so sorry everyone feels so left out on here. :( Is there anyway to fix this?

 

[Whale_bones]

I expect the forum to include a such a big range of experiences and perspectives, with the only thing we have in common being we believe in the right to die, we don't believe it's automatically wrong to choose your time and manner of death in every circumstance.

Beyond that, I expect there to be wide variations of opinion on everything. From the more detailed aspects of death and right-to-die issues, to religion, to mental illness and treatment, to pretty much all life experiences. To me, it's the same as if you gathered together thousands of people anywhere else on the internet… you'll get a sampling of everything.

So it doesn't make me feel left out because even if I see plenty of conversations that don't apply to me, I know there will still be threads that come along that I do relate to. It's just not going to be the majority when there are so many people.

 

[wCvML2]

I don't feel alienated when I read posts I don't relate to tbh, I find them valuable because I want to know other perspectives on suicide before I make my own final decision.

 

[ChangeWaiter]

I don't feel as much alienated here as I do in any given group of people. I'm very awkward with people, which makes me a loner in most environments. My loneliness is one of the main reasons to ctb.

 

[bed]

to a degree yes. most of my friends have either died or we've just drifted apart. it's been hard to make new connections here for me. i think since i became a mod it's played a role in making it more difficult. it also doesn't help i have high walls up so to speak and don't reach out as much anymore but that's on me.

 

[Tarrasque]

It seems like there's all sorts here but I feel outcast in my everyday life so the simple fact that people here respect my wish for death makes it feel accepting.

 

[sparrowcharm]

I'm new so i don't know yet but I'm 47 and almost always the oldest in online forums/discord