Discussion do you consider "disappearing" instead of cbt?

[ecmnesia]

life sucks, I wish I was never born, and all those stuff. Yes, I would like to die, but truth is I'm a coward and will likely not do it, even though I have a method, even though I might succeed. It's a fact, for now, I don't have the guts, unfortunately I still care about the repercussions it might leave.

Considering this, I also have the feelings things might get a little more bearable if I have no strings attached to anything, not burden on my backs or expectations. Honestly, if I can't die I want to at least runaway from everything and anyone. I'm a pussy and I either let go of everything or don't. I saw this article about a business that makes people disappear in Japan, and since then, this doesn't get out of my mind.

Have any of you considered that? If so, how'd you do it? Is it possible? What would I need to do so?

Thanks for reading.

 

[victoria91]

Interesting idea. What article is this? I would be intrigued to read it.

I think about CTB everyday but petrified of not only doing it but I would be upset for the person/s that would find me and I also have 4 young children.

The thought of dissapearing seems like a great way, that is if you don't get found

 

[oblivion_seeker]

Yes I think about this a lot as I'm terrified of death despite feeling suicidal. So it seems like the next best option but then people always say you can't run from your problems so idk if it would be worth it. I'd also hate to go missing and put my family through not knowing what happened to me

 

[ecmnesia]

Interesting idea. What article is this? I would be intrigued to read it.

I think about CTB everyday but petrified of not only doing it but I would be upset for the person/s that would find me and I also have 4 young children.

The thought of dissapearing seems like a great way, that is if you don't get found

I'm sending you two links I found that seems reliable (I'm brazilian and the original one is in portuguese), in case you want to search more just look up for "johatsu japan" on google. hope it helps.

I feel like disappearing would be easier on my family than suicide, although it'd probably give them hope somehow.

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The people choosing to 'disappear' in Japan

In Japan, the Johatsu, literally "evaporated people", choose to abandon their current lives for new ones.

www.bbc.com

Yes I think about this a lot as I'm terrified of death despite feeling suicidal. So it seems like the next best option but then people always say you can't run from your problems so idk if it would be worth it. I'd also hate to go missing and put my family through not knowing what happened to me

yes, you can't run from them, but you can hide. personally, since I can't end all of my problems, and also can't solve them, maybe if I at least could get rid of some of them.... I mean, I could at least forget about college, social obligations and expectations.

Maybe an alternative would be leaving a letter for them, telling them not to look for you/me since I don't want to be found. I don't know, sounds like a great escape.

 

[AwokenToReality]

For sure, I'd definitely prefer to disappear, start a new life and do things differently someplace else if that was a possibility, rather than taking my own life. I've had a method in place for months, and promised myself I'd be gone by the end of October after putting off numerous dates. Like you, as serious as I am about this, I will likely not follow through with my plans, and I fucking hate it, cause life is unbearable.

 

[Shahanshah]

I lived in India and I hate to interact people.But unfortunately there are fucking 1.4 billion people in country so u will always surrounded by others.I think this option isn't for me. I have to CTB.

 

[sadworld]

Nah, i don't want to disappear and start a new life, at the end i will fuck everything up and land on here again, i don't wanna go through all that pain again. If i could disappear and go to another universe i might chose that.

 

[Shahanshah]

Nah, i don't want to disappear and start a new life, at the end i will fuck everything up and land on here again, i don't wanna go through all that pain again. If i could disappear and go to another universe i might chose that.

Your Idea is also interesting but still we have to find out another universe.Either it exist or just a fantasy there is no surety.

 

[death137]

I used to think about this but I realized it won't solve or lessen my problem in fact things will get a lot worse. I prefer suicide.

 

[ecmnesia]

Nah, i don't want to disappear and start a new life, at the end i will fuck everything up and land on here again, i don't wanna go through all that pain again. If i could disappear and go to another universe i might chose that.

that'd be good, if only it was possible. even there I would find a way to fuck things up, still, if I can't solve my problems, I can at least hide/runaway from them.

I used to think about this but I realized it won't solve or lessen my problem in fact things will get a lot worse. I prefer suicide.

suicide is the ideal, unfortunately some of us are incapable to do so. if only someone could come and kill me...

 

[GrumpyFrog]

I wonder how are you supposed to make your living once you "disappear"?

 

[ecmnesia]

I wonder how are you supposed to make your living once you "disappear"?

that's what I am trying to find out.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

Disappearing could be a good option. It may give you the chance to start over with a new life, or at the very least - catch a break.

 

[EssenceFocus]

If I had the chance to experience life, that the native Americans had, before the white people came, that would be nice.
We often look down to most native people all around the world. Yes, we have machines and roads and know more. But they know how to life more naturally. I bet, there aren't many depressed native people in the world.
I know it is unrealistic and it's simply a mindgame, but I would "disappear" and life with these people. There are native people in the world, that aren't influenced by "culture" or "religion", they simply live without all these cultural constraints. ( Of course I wouldn't choose cannibalistic people :P)

 

[Spitfire]

You could always go homeless. I do not recommend it, and this would bring on a whole new set of problems.

You could disappear pretty easily by going homeless though. It is also not a difficult thing to do in comparison to starting a new life in another country and such.

 

[NeverGoodEnuff]

I tried it. Sold everything, bought a van, lived in it on the road. Stayed in the boonies mostly. For months. It was good at first but after a while, I realized the truth of the saying, "wherever you go, there you are." The depression, anxiety, all of it were right there, riding shotgun, an invisible backseat driver.

 

[Dragonfire]

It's a very interesting concept. I would do it.

 

[Lupgevif]

Wouldn't get rid of my problems and I would still have my fucked up head to deal with, except now I am also running away from everyone I know. So, for me, no.

 

[WFJ74]

I'd imagine if similar services existed they'd be extremely expensive. Too hard to do it on my own so I don't think I'd consider it. Though I have considered going on a long road trip and CTB'ing at the end of it.

 

[Jojo81]

I tried it. Sold everything, bought a van, lived in it on the road. Stayed in the boonies mostly. For months. It was good at first but after a while, I realized the truth of the saying, "wherever you go, there you are." The depression, anxiety, all of it were right there, riding shotgun, an invisible backseat driver.

Are you serious... It's a dream for me, van life... but again..income and money matters a lot..

 

[DyingAlf]

It's not just that you can't run from your problems, it's also (& perhaps more importantly) that you can't run from yourself.

 

[blacktrain98]

I tried it. Sold everything, bought a van, lived in it on the road. Stayed in the boonies mostly. For months. It was good at first but after a while, I realized the truth of the saying, "wherever you go, there you are." The depression, anxiety, all of it were right there, riding shotgun, an invisible backseat driver.

I've been looking into living in a van. Do you regret it? I figure I'm going to be depressed no matter where I go, but a lot of societal stresses seem to fade when you are boondocking or homesteading. Did you see yourself living more genuinely, or did it feel like a distraction? I'm really interested to hear about transient living and how that mixes with shitty mental health.

 

[Stick]

I like the idea of disappearing more than I like the reality.

 

[canihavepeaceforonce]

Disappearing is only possible if you have the resources to do it. You can check out Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries, where they showed how a French man killed his entire family and vanished from the face of the earth. He disappeared in 2011 and yet to found out, one of the most wanted men on earth.

Again, he murdered his family and that's terrible, but he had an entire plan and resources to simply get away. Like suppose I move from one country to another or even a state, then what? That's almost impossible without actually having money or the skills that you would need to survive somewhere else. Does anyone who's thinking of ctbing actually have the power to plan all these? I'm fucking tired of living and too depressed to even read the guides and getting out and test out SN properly, I'm not getting the power or strength to do it.

PS. good to fantasize though.

 

[GrumpyFrog]

Does anyone who's actually thinking of ctbing actually have the power to plan all these? I'm fucking tired of living and too depressed to even read the guides and getting out and test out SN properly, I'm not getting the power or strength to do it.

...and I'm too broke to buy decent food and/or a good rope, much less afford to move somewhere. The idea of disappearing sounds fascinating, but must be hard to pull off even for someone who is okay, much less for most suicidal people that are already ran into a corner by some set of circumstances that doesn't leave them with many options.
It's still nice to fantasize, though.

 

[NeverGoodEnuff]

Living in a van...

It was a good thing at the time. It provided an escape, I was running away from a failed relationship. The best part, surprizingly, was the few people I met who were real characters. The worst part was the other people who are just like those you meet anywhere, the ones you are trying to leave behind. Then one day I woke up and just wanted to go "home".

I learned so much, though. Mainly how to take care of myself, to face unknowns, to overcome fears, to be self reliant.

I had a dream of driving into the desert and just dying in my van, to be found much later by some hiker, mummified and mysterious. But I had two dogs with me so no.

It was interesting. I won't do it again, though.

 

[Klee]

I love thinking about this stuff, it's a great distraction. There would be so much to consider, though, and I think somebody as tired as me would definitely screw something up. I'm sure lots of people have pulled it off, though.