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UninformedLover

UninformedLover

"Don't mess with The Amazing Spider-Man!"
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Been reading a lot about near death experiences (people who were dead and came back to life) lately in order to prepare for ctb and personally I think there is one.

What about you?
 
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I go back and forth a lot tbh. I've actually been reading a lot about different ideas of the afterlife in different traditions. It's actually really interesting! I actually would love to be reincarnated. Not because I particularly want to be alive again but because I'd like a second chance to lead a good life since I messed this one up so badly. I hope there's no Hell because that's for sure where I'm going if there is.
 
Shadows From Hell

Shadows From Hell

The one who has lost a lot, fears nothing.
Oct 21, 2024
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Nope. 1 year before you were born, you were nothing. 1 day after you're gone, you'll be nothing again. No afterlife, no afterthoughts, no nothing. You'll close your eyes and that'll be it. Game over. Just like a fart in the wind.

Not trying to say you are nothing now, but you get my drift. 🙂
 
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The idea of an afterlife doesn't make sense to me; eternal nothingness seems more logical.
 
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I believe that if you are terrible enough you are to be fated to being a dog toy and dragged along hard rough concrete ground, swung everywhere and chased by a dog that really wants to bite, pull and destroy you until your stuffing comes out over and over again. As you can see from this example:
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I don't think there is one at all and its just eternal non-existence. Every kind of afterlife feels too like human fiction to me
 
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persepexa

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The idea of an afterlife doesn't make sense to me; eternal nothingness seems more logical.
I think people came up with the idea because it was comforting. People are afraid of death (i.e. nothingness) so they like the idea of eternal life. It also means loved ones who passed are watching over them which is another comfort. I don't think there could possibly ever be evidence that an afterlife exists, just something people came up with.
 
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I think people came up with the idea because it was comforting. People are afraid of death (i.e. nothingness) so they like the idea of eternal life. It also means loved ones who passed are watching over them which is another comfort. I don't think there could possibly ever be evidence that an afterlife exists, just something people came up with.
Reminds me of TMT for whatever reason
 
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I think there is an afterlife. I sure hope so, but I do not know for sure. There are many different accounts of what happens when we pass on. I do not know which one to believe, but they all point to us going to a very nice place. My mom passed away a few years ago. A couple of weeks after she died I was walking my dog. Out of the blue, as clear as a bell I heard her exact voice say to me " It is very beautiful over here, it really is ". Those were he exact words. I was wondering how she was when the voice came into my head. That was the one and only time that I heard her voice.
 
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I think there is an afterlife. I sure hope so, but I do not know for sure. There are many different accounts of what happens when we pass on. I do not know which one to believe, but they all point to us going to a very nice place. My mom passed away a few years ago. A couple of weeks after she died I was walking my dog. Out of the blue, as clear as a bell I heard her exact voice say to me " It is very beautiful over here, it really is ". Those were he exact words. I was wondering how she was when the voice came into my head. That was the one and only time that I heard her voice.
I love that.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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No, I could only ever believe death to be peace and the peace of non-existence is just all I could hope for and is all I see as desirable, non-existence is just all that's positive for me in this existence so torturous, cruel and futile that I just always saw as the most terrible, tragic mistake, all I want is to be gone, I just want to never suffer again, all I could hope for is to be unconscious for all eternity with no more pain and no more suffering and I suffer simply from being burdened with this dreadful existence.
 
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Been reading a lot about near death experiences (people who were dead and came back to life) lately in order to prepare for ctb and personally I think there is one.

What about you?
oh mate, i've been thinking about the afterlife for years, since around when i was 5 years old in 2003, if not earlier, but of course the more advanced thoughts came as i aged.

i'm 27 years now, Romanian, and i was raised in an Orthodox Christian background.

i have mixed feelings about any religion, including good, bad and neutral and indifferent feelings.

i'm not feeling amazing now, mentally or physically but i will try to answer.

i read a lot of Orthodox Christian books in Romanian, English, and other languages using Google Translate and other online tools including DeepL translate and others as they appeared over the years.

i disliked the rigid, moralistic, and legalistic language in most Christian books and Christian related content in general. Islamic or Muslim content wasn't much better either, and Judaism didn't seem to have good enough answers for my critical mind.

perhaps Buddhism / Hinduism attracted me more at some points in time - https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Buddhism "Institutional Buddhism has been conspicuously ready to accept or ignore the inequalities and tyrannies of whatever political system it found itself under. This can be death to Buddhism, because it is death to any meaningful function of compassion. ~ Gary Snyder"
because it resonated with my intution that there might not be any solid point of pleasure, indifference or pain in our bodies, and that everything is transitory.

i liked all religions, up to a point, because they expanded my imagination.

for example, that 1. Allah in Islam is said to have no associates, no family, no mother, no father, no wife, no children, nobody, and he doesn't belong in the trinity - and that he's not male, female, he's not human, he's not an animal or a microscopic bacteria - he's like some ineffable, inescapble reality of the universe, a sort of field intelligence, emerging from ...

2. the light from the Big Bang, and the nucleons, Hydrogen infrared light from the Cosmic Microwave Background ...

Muslims might say 1, but 2 might be too much for them and this is why i abandoned most religions and i'm a skeptic freethinker, cherry picking what religious facts and religious feelings i like at a given momenent in time, which seems to be forever in the now, despite my brain being stuck in the past and always predicting the future ...

what i dislike is that most religions divide between believers and non-believers and that for example Buddhist countries like India, Thailand, Myanmar and so on, aren't exactly paradises either, and most haven't realized that having children is a big burden, and to be an antinatalist instead ...

most religions don't try to explain money, politics, taxes, tax systems - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism Georgism, Communism, Capitalism or any kind of AI religion or AI tax system ...

for example - most religions don't try to do something like this -
Two AI Agents Design a New Economy (Beyond Capitalism / Socialism)

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Clarified Mind

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We used the most advanced AI models to develop a new economic model for the 21st century. The model was designed in 10 steps. Five AI models rated this new system by comparing it to the economic systems of America, China and Germany.

Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:42 Step 1 - Problem Definition
05:16 Step 1 - Summary
05:29 Step 2 - First Principles
07:45 Step 2 - Summary
08:14 Step 3 - Human Nature
10:41 Step 4 - Resource Allocation
15:13 Step 4 - Summary
15:34 Step 5 - Power Structure Design
19:32 Step 5 - Summary
19:58 Step 6 - Innovation and Growth
22:24 Step 7 - Crisis
25:13 Implementation
28:00 Stress Testing
30:46 Final Integration
33:52 Final Thoughts

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@justingaylor4265

"Social norms must valorize contribution over accumulation, cooperation over domination, and long-term thinking over short-term gains." This statement captures the essence of what I believe most people want from their society.

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@alfonzo6320

what i love about AI is that it didn't actually came up with all these arguments against the current economic system.
Somebody did it. Or many people. The AI only collected their data, summarized it and presented it in a organized fashion.
so, Props to humans.

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@MFKR696

"The mistake is thinking you have to choose one or the other".

I've been saying this for years, but nobody listens. If both extremes cannot be managed, they need to be combined. Best of both worlds.

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Invidious is a Youtube frontend, so don't worry if you click, i just wanted to post the comments in case they get deleted from Youtube, and thus Invidious as Invidious only proxies the comments, it doesn't save them forever unless you, or a bot saves them instead.

My problem with most religions is that most believe in "free will" while most of us having animal impulses.

they don't try to explain how both feelings and intellectual rationality could exist in all animals, from rats to cats to humans, and that they could all have a soul, but we just don't know ...

Behemoth - X a Satanist who believes in King Satan, senior officer of Hell i guess, also called Pandemonium by some posted this:

Satan Speaks - Gnosis - Personal Power

from the comments:

@TheSorcererAhrimanahsul

Hail The Infernal, Hail The Fallen, and Hail unto Thee Behemoth-X! I Genuinely Love You Brother and I Appreciate You sharing Your Wisdom and Gnosis with All of Us!

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@Heraclatian

This feeling of "holy" is something I've gotten off of the Infernal and especially the Qliphothic Princes. It's a sacredness I feel. Everything you said rings very true to me. To me Belial has always felt extra terrestrial, Lucifer can as well. This one hit home. So much anxiety and processing over the last months its amazing to hear another speak on similar things. Thank you for your openness.

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This guy, Mr Nunn or Behemoth-X said that, Satan is in every living animal, including humans (perhaps the most smart animal, i guess, at least on Earth).

that torturing animals is wrong, because the soul aka spirit of the animal is Satanic, and torturing it, tortures Satan and that is bad, apparently.

however, Satan can accept animal sacrifice, and according to him, it doesn't matter if you do good or bad, or nothing, and be lazy, because Satan accepts up to a point you "free will" and that laws don't matter to him, but they also seem to matter to him, according to other Satanist redditors ...

this guy also said, that Satan also controls how kids will turn out, how the embryo is fertilized, and if a future kid will have diseases or not, and this guy, despite being a Satanist, still bred.

apparently Satan speaks as We, so he's a sort of collective intelligence but is still heard as one voice.

kind of like how the cells, neurons and synapses in our brain work, apparently Satan can quickly and telepathically communicate with his legions of demons, princes, dukes, NCOs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-commissioned_officer equivalent, and less senior officers / elites of the Pandemonium, and soldiers, because he has soldiers too, to make his will happen - sadly he mostly seems to have a negative feeling, a sad feeling, melancholic feeling, for me, even if i didn't do any ritual, because life seems kinda sad on Earth, i guess. i might be depressed, but my life is boring anyway.

both the environment and brain chemistry and behaviors contribute to depression and other mental problems.

according to a redditor from old.reddit.com/r/DemonoLatryPractices the Celestial Empire is Heaven, and quite big, and Pandemonium, Hell, or the Underworld of Hades and the Greco Roman Gods, is where Emperor Lucifer exists ...

my point is, if there is an afterlife, how come there seems to be so much pain there too?

apparently one can have a second death in Hell, and completely die, assuming they want to proceed on the Satanic path and go to Hell, after the die, assuming that is what is left of their soul after they're completely brain dead, legally dead, and not coming back not even to tell what they saw during their NEAR death experience (but not complete death).

apparently each soul has soul fragments, and might also have vital organs, just like we have livers, kidneys, pancreas, brain, and a muscle - skeletal system for locomotion - apparently they have something similar but i'm not sure how to describe them, and most religions don't bother about the details.

other links from Reddit about the afterlife:
old.reddit.com/r/Ndelo

old.reddit.com/r/afterlife

old.reddit.com/r/spirituality

old.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion

sadly, it seems for Satan too, just like Yahweh, the Christian and Muslim god, Satan favors the aggresor and disease too, or the collective intelligence of all these gods from Hades, Zeus, Jupiter, Mars, the Sun, Sol, Sol Invictus - Sol the Undefeated, the undefeated nuclear fusion reaction in the sun - which looks permanent on human lifespans ...

all these gods, more real, or less real, i don't give a fuck - they favor pain, they favor Natural Selection, they favor Painful and Unpleasant and Unsettling in a bad way, genetic mutations, and they favor dumber and less capable humans, compared to them. i'm tired of them, and i'm also tired of myself.

i want more power, because i'm poor and not very smart, and not quite motivated, and with not much knowledge, but at the same time i don't care, and nothingness for the afterlife would also suffice.

if anyone of you wants to live a second death, or a third death, or a final death in Pandemonium / Hell or whatever other afterlife / afterlife Empire / afterlife country / afterlife sovereign state i think you could get it, once you realized you're conscious, without enough money, a bank account in the afterlife, and so on, enough conditions that would be met ...

for now, what keeps me alive is my ~63 year old mom and my memories and my self preservation instinct, that is present in the vast majority of animals sadly.

religions, most of them, also don't want to deal with pollution, climate change, divorces, break ups, and so on ...

also most Monks, and celibate religious people seem to encourage lay people, and disbelievers even, to breed, to have more children even if the Christian faith hell seems almost guaranteed, and there's a lot of traffic in my city of Iasi, Romania, Bucharest, Moscow, Berlin, London, NYC, LA, even in Miami i saw quite a bit of traffic ...

only Netherlands, Belgium have better bicycle infrastucture but they're not heaven either, and having the bike and equipment isn't easy. or rather an eutopia - eutopia means The Good Place.

Utopia means no place, and Dystopia means a bad place, like the Christian variant of Hell i guess. i say this because i'm a cultural christian.

i think all variants of the afterlife exist in this vast Universe, and that we humans have pulled the bad straw, and were born on a worse planet for reasons that i don't understand. perhaps something about natural selection, and both tragedies and "decent" events attracted these Gods, more or less real, i don't care, i want results.

attracted these gods, and humans to keep breeding despite all the problems that exist. whatever.

humans are born in North Korea, the DPRK, and Gaza, and South Sudan, and Nigeria and Somalia ...

people are homeless, people are orphans, people are vegetables, or vegetative, or in vent farms in California or certain Saudi Arabian princes, and yet it doesn't matter, life keeps continuing ...

this chaos, which is frequently negative, feels sad. there are many unsuited parents, but nobody wants to implement parenting licenses, even for adoption, you must have money, this and that, use no drugs, including no alcohol, be smart, this and that, emotionally regulated, blah blah ...

anyway, God is the explanation for everything and explanation for nothing at all.

i both stopped believing and stopped disbelieving in God, and i'm sometimes a Skeptic, sometimes i intensely focus on certain relgious messages and comments, but they're all the same, kinda boring, kinda interesting, meh ... this keeps me alive ...

these religions don't explain how technology works in the afterlife, how thermodynamics works, how aging is prevented, or how true is the fact that one Reddit one said that in the Pandemonium, demons only torture child abusers, pedophiles, and war criminals - but only proportionally, up to the point that they deserve that torture.

do they really deserve torture? do they really deserve their brain to be rehabilited in hell? like in the Norwegian prison system but better?

and where is the soul anyway if it's all emergent, from Quarks, Gluons, the Quark Gluon turbulence in the nucleons - Electromagnetic force between the electric shell, of the atoms, the Strong and Weak nuclear forces + gravity + anything else? idk ... Dark Matter and Dark Energy and other particles in the Elementary Particle Zoo ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_particle

when God, aka Yahweh allowed Eve to eat from the so called of knowing Good and Evil, he essentially allowed them to believe in binary thinking, in good cop, bad cop dynamics ...

then he said something, in Genesis, in the Bible, that you will become like Gods, and surely die or something like that ...

the Serpent or Lucifer, which was described as a human eclipse by Cipher Grove, with both good and evil parts, and a very attractive pull, and sadly a mostly negative aura - in my imagination i guess ... or the 3rd eye, the pineal gland, or whatever brain areas that were used - Brodmann areas in the brain ...


the hippocampus and the desire for movement in animals - this is imporant, please avoid getting into accidents - like falls from ladders - remember to stabilize ladders well - and don't destroy your skeletal system thank you ...

the Serpent said that you will not die - and that was true, Adam lived for like 500 years or more, i forgot his exact age -

930 years, but of course, Eve was never mentioned when she died, because the bible is mysogynistic.

i'm not a pure liberal radical feminist, nor a MGTOW guy (as a male) - however feminism allows for more Antinatalism, more free flow of information, and more skeptical and critical thinking - and a release from religions like Christianity.

release from dogma, and sadly embracing another dogma. life is a dynamic pattern of molecules and information exchanges.

life is entropy and pollution but also joy and hope ...

yeah so essentially once Adam, and Eve started to create clothes for themselves, and technology - he started to become more and more like God - and this is the essence - we can choose to die, or to live, or to be lazy and not do much, to both go with the flow, and do something, according to Buddhism and other trains of thought too ...

here's another thought that just appeared to me:

Arsenia Boca is the only Romanian Orthodox monk that said, once, that humanity was much more occupied with the idea of work and babies, and especially new babies, than the idea of spiritual growth, meaning to become a monk like him at a monastery or in a secluded place, idk when, from the Stone age, onwards, to the 4th industrial revolution - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Industrial_Revolution

not all countries are in the 4th revolution some are still stuck in the 2nd or the 3rd one, because poverty and poor geopolitics - but anyway.

also worth noting:

This Arsenie Boca monk, didn't go as far as to denounce population growth or talk about arguments on old.reddit.com/r/overpopulation and it's worth noting he had an "adopted daugther" which was a nun, so a female monk, who carried on his writings and his faith, and made out of him a sort of superhero, myth and legend despite only dying around 1989 ...

Tatiana Niculescu, an author wrote a book about Arsenie Boca, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40030379-ei-m-consider-f-c-tor-de-minuni

"they consider me a miracle maker"

sadly i believe it's only in Romanian and you would have to translate it to English or your target language, and it would be inconvenient so anyway ...

this Monk, Arsenie Boca - also said that with Technology, - Atomic bombs and such, - you have brought the end of the world - which still hasn't come, and might never come how Christians imagine it.

apparently he predicted that anarchy, or some kind of riots in Romania might come - about in the same amount of years that Communism in Romania has worked - or the so called 5 corner red star of the communist party i guess ...

from 1944 to 1989 - 1945 - 1990 - 45 years - well as of 2025, we are 35 years since the fall of the Ceausescu Stalinist - Autarkic - North Korean style regime of the old revolutionary Romania, and now we're in a different revolution, the Iliescu revolution - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Iliescu

he died in August 2025, at around 95 years old, under 100 for sure.


but with a different president, and different government, and different technology and different debt vs GDP ratio from 1990, but anyway, such is life ... and GDP is not everything, it also depends on you, what job type you have, etc ... business, crypto, etc - btw how do crypto currencies, work in the afterlife? are there any secrets, i guess so.

...

life passes anyway, good or bad, it's all labels, our conscious minds put on experiences, and they do have meaning, because meaning is an emergent phenomenon, everything seems to be interdependent to an extent.

also the butterfly effect, for example a butterfly cannot start a tornado or hurricane aimed at any American, state, or any non-American state, because the conditions aren't sufficient. however life has some element of irreducible computation, meaning to play out life, a computer would have to calculate all the steps.

still i feel life is very hard sometimes, and some injuries are permanent, and even if the difference between me and a genius is kinda small, i can't just free will myself to genius, so genetics influence my free will a lot, and past behaviors, and my age, the year i was born in influence my will, which was never free ...

perhaps Compatibilsm exists, perhaps Determinism, but i still feel i have free thoughts - the problem is that life all feels arbitrary - because i don't want to remain dumb or incapable yet i'm forced to dream of the afterlife and other crazy scenarios becaue my life is kinda unpleasant ....

i don't see inside my brain well, neither inside the 4 chambers of my heart, neither inside my vital organs, so this is why i sometimes think i have a will, that is free, but ulimately, i'm severly restricted by my shape, by my past, anatomy, transcriptional and physiological emergent characteristics ... but i guess even with a restricted will, life can be interesting because i can produce texts like this, even if i'm a skeptic and i don't want to serve under any God, but rather make my own country or whatever, and believe in a better world, but idk where i would find it.

I disagree that the afterlife is only love, because if that was true, there would be more clear intervention on this mortal life, in our mortal remains.

Oh and btw, Romanian television says - the SOUL-LESS BODY - trupul neinsfuletit - instead of - ramasitele muritoare - the mortal remains - and this is a cultural and religious artifact that says that Romania isn't quite secular, even if some are disbelievers, most are superstitious, and the Orthodox Church has a lot of influence look:


it costed around 270 million euros - even if Romania uses Romanian Lions, and 5 Romanian Lions is 1 Euro - and 200 million euros came from the central state budget from the Parliament in Bucharest, and the local councils, i guess ... and around 70 million euros either came from the church, or from donations from believers ...

this is what i dislike about religion in Romania, because it also discouraged abortions and there were are lot of unwanted children being born - somewhat like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_770 Decree 770 which is equivalent to the Baby Boomers in America, but instead they're called Decree People, or Decretzei / Decretei - anyway ...

an abortion in Romania at a private hospital costs around 1500 lions, - 300 euros - or 1,5k RON and since the Sars2 pandemic / Covid 2019 pandemic, apparently most public hospital doctors, redirect women to private hospitals, and the poor women either don't have or don't care about aborting their children, also because of antinatalism and skeptic, disbelieving thoughts because of the culture - but anyway ...

most males don't care about vasectomy, and i'm a virgin because of many reasons, starting from money and from my own style of thinking, and ending at some ineffable unknown limits but whatever ...

also this is why it's not very likely for the right to die to be implemented in Romania, also because parties in Romania, even so called pro-EU parties, pro European, and not pro Russian, are conservative

scroll down, and look, i don't care to provide sources anymore, but Romania probably won't pass a comprehensive right to die law ...


look what the newspaper Adevarul - the Truth says in Romanian about Arsenia Boca:

{{cite web
| title = Secretele lui Arsenie Boca despre iubire, căsnicie și fericire în fam…
| url = https://adevarul.ro/stiri-interne/s...enie-boca-despre-iubire-casnicie-2475478.html
| date = 2025-10-13
| archiveurl = http://archive.today/3jIXa
| archivedate = 2025-10-13 }}

he has quite a rigid style of speech, and he even encourages people to breed because according to the Bible, the father in the heaven, or the Celestial Empire according to that Redditor that i totally forgot by now - this Sky Daddy will provide, this cosmic dictator, and he doesn't explicitly encourage not breeding.

which is against something he said above, that humanity was more preoccupied to make more babies, than to have spiritual growth ... but what about technological growth beyond GDP?

this is what i dislike about most religious people, and spiritual people - that they haven't found concrete ways to merge both technology and religion, because of the veils, between this life and the afterlife, whatever countries and whatever empires exist there, apparently it might not be so nice? but it might also be nice, we might form new attachments there, i'm not sure - i've heard Redditors saying that some people had new children in the afterlife which sounds kinda bad to me - but whatever. i'm not about to get married or become a "non virgin" because i have my own programming and C3 and Odin and C and Python, and AI interests even if i barely know any of them.

oh btw
old.reddit.com/r/religion
for more superstious discussion that doesn't talk about technology and religion and afterlife all at once ....

yeah i'm sorry for the big wall of text, but i wanted to get this out.

bye for now - oh and there were also religious sects that didn't breed much - and they mostly died out - you can also look up on Wikipedia the article SKOPTSY or Skoptsy, or a Russian eunuch Christian sect that was wiped out, because they didn't produce enough believers:

The Skoptsy[note 1] (Russian: скопцы, lit. 'eunuch', Russian pronunciation: [skɐpˈtsɨ]) were a Spiritual Christian sect of Eastern Orthodoxy. They were best known for practising emasculation of men, the mastectomy and female genital mutilation of women in accordance with their teachings against sexual lust. The descriptive term "Skoptsy" was coined by the Russian Orthodox Church.

The sect emerged in the late 18th century. It reached the peak of its popularity in the early 20th century but was essentially wiped out by the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin.

From the notes:

Notes

Often self referred to as True Christians or the Godly.[1]

Matthew 19:12: "For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

Matthew 18:8–9: "Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire."

cast into hell fire, used to be mean in some interpretations, second death and annihilation without torture, but whatever ...

if the afterlife exists, what about the after-after-after-afterlife? i want a finality though. i wanna be like a god and not become old and even sicker from older age.

oh and i also want something like this but better in the afterlife, and idk if i will be able to choose but whatever, here it is:

Youth Without Aging and Life Without Death

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Youth Without Aging and Life Without Death (Romanian: Tinerețe fără bătrânețe și viață fără de moarte) is a story from Romanian folklore, collected by Petre Ispirescu and introduced in the collection Legende sau basmele românilor. It has been republished in numerous collections of stories, such as in Immortal Stories[1] or in the volume Youth Without Old Age from the Arcade collection, Editura Minerva, 1985.[2]

The fairy tale was told to the writer by his father who lived in the Udricani neighborhood, Bucharest. The tale was first published in 1862, in "The Romanian Peasant". The story contains philosophical ideas about the condition of man in the universe, immortality and the cycle of life. The text superimposes with originality mythological and philosophical concepts.
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A king and a queen lived the misfortune of not having children. They had enlisted the help of healers, magicians, and philosophers, but no one could drive away their unhappiness. After a while, they find an uncle who gives them useful cures, warning them that they will have only one son, named Făt-Frumos, but that they will not have him. However, the empress takes the medicine and in a few days her time to give birth comes, but the child, still unborn, begins to cry. The king promises the son empires and an emperor's daughter as a future wife, but in vain. In the end, the emperor promises the child eternal youth and immortality. Then the baby is silent and born. But when he reaches the age of 15, the prince reminds his father to keep his word.

As the emperor cannot fulfill his wish, the prince decides to go out into the world to find eternal youth and immortality. He chooses a horse from the stable, knowing that among them was an enchanted one. On his advice, he prepares thoroughly: he feeds the horse for six weeks with milk-boiled barley, finds his grandfather's clothes and weapons from his youth, and only then does he set out in search of his ideal. The prince's journey begins in the wilderness and is a road to the east, which the hero must travel alone.

The first obstacle he has to pass is the estate of Gheonoaia, a being cursed by her parents, whom the prince defeats and asks her for a document with her blood in order to sanctify the peace. Gheonoaia has three girls like fairies and asks the prince to choose one as his bride, but the hero, having an ideal that he does not want to abandon, he goes on, reaching the estate of Scorpia, Gheonoaia's sister, whom he also defeats. The third test means confronting the wildest beasts in the world, who day and night guard the palace of eternal youth. Helped by one of the fairies who live in the palace, he overcomes this obstacle and fulfills his wish. The much sought after eternal youth is represented by the three fairies, who receive him with joy, and the prince marries one of them. Here life takes place in peace and delight, but there is a dangerous place: the Valley of Lamentation. The one who gets there is homesick. Coincidentally, on a hunting day, the prince enters this space and, overwhelmed by memories, sets off for his parents' house. Centuries have passed in the world left by the hero, cities have risen, and the hero is suddenly aging. Before parting with his guiding horse, the prince makes a surprising promise: "Go healthy, for I hope to return soon."

The prince finds Death crouched waiting in a little box, in the cellar of his parents' castle, now in ruins, and leaves himself reaped as his weak knees are trembling with fear.
Analysis
Tale type

Romanian scholarship classified the tale, according to the international Aarne-Thompson Index, as type 470C*.[3] However, in the international index, the tale is classified as type AaTh 470*, "The Hero Visits the Land of Immortals".[4] Furthermore, German scholar Hans-Jörg Uther, in his 2004 revision of the international index, subsumed type AaTh 470* under new tale type ATU 470B, "The Land Where No One Dies": the hero reaches the land of immortals or the land where no one dies, and marries its queen; later, he grows homesick and decides to return home, but his wife argues him against it; still, he returns home and discovers his parents' ruined house and a strange man; when the hero climbs down the horse to help the man, the man reveals he is Death.[5]

According to Hungarian scholar Faragó Jószef, the tale is thematically related to other tales where the hero longs for and seeks immortality.[6]
Variants

Author Frances Browne published a variant of the tale, with the title The Tale of Youth free from Age, and Life free from Death.[7]
Adaptations

The film Youth Without Old Age (1968) is based on this story.[8]
See also

Guingamor
Urashima Taro

References

"Povesti nemuritoare vol. 1". carturesti.ro (in Romanian). Retrieved 2021-09-08.
Tinerete fara batrinete (in Romanian).
Petre Ispirescu - Opere. Volume 1. Ed. Minerva, 1971. p. lxxxvii.
Aarne, Antti; Thompson, Stith. The types of the folktale: a classification and bibliography. Folklore Fellows Communications FFC no. 184. Helsinki: Academia Scientiarum Fennica, 1961. p. 162.
Uther, Hans-Jörg (2011). The International Index. Vol. 1: Tales of Magic. Folklore Fellows' Communications. Kalevala Society Foundation. ISBN 978-951-41-1054-2. ISSN 0014-5815.
FARAGÓ, József (1968). "A mennybe vitt leány balladájához". Ethnographia (in Hungarian). 79 (4): 512–513.
Browne, Frances (1915). "Roumanian Folk Tales". Folklore. 26 (3): 296–329 [312-320]. JSTOR 1255425.

Tinerete fara batrînete (1969) - IMDb, retrieved 2021-09-08

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edit 2: it's also worth noting that Wikipedia has enough money, and it would be better to donate it to Sanctioned Suicide, somewhere else, use it yourself if you're poor, or have no personal bank account, or whatever else ... just to note ... even if they say they're non-profit, they have more than good wages, and you know, think critically ...


whatever, i just wanted to share, i wanted to share many of these but i had anxiety so i'm just sharing them all in this comment, if a mod finds appropriate, i could also post them in a separate thread but whatever.

i had anxiety and aversion and now i'm focusing everything in one comment, regarding the afterlife and more ...

thanks for reading or skimming, thanks. bye for now.

edit 1:
take care of your health, because that limits or expands your (free) will, remember Vitamin D3, to not eat too salty foods, be careful about the food intake, sleep, stuff like that, because ghosts might have something similar too, but idk ...
 
Raven2

Raven2

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2022
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I believe there is one but I hope theres not. I dont want to live eternally in any capacity nor do I want to be reincarnated.
 

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