Discussion Do you believe the planet can still be saved?

[Sherri]

Like my title says, do you believe that? In my opinion it's a no, the planet is irreplaceably damaged beyond repair, no Greta Thunderg, no protests, nothing! We are running out of water in some countries including mine who haven't seen rain for a year, it's all fun and games until the Forrest fires begin, last year 50 people died including children. They cut Amazon the size of football fields everyday. I'm happy I won't be here to see the future and the hell that will unleash upon earth. This post is not to scare anymore but to create awareness. If any of you still think this planet can be saved please I would love to hear from you and maybe change my perspective.

 

[ncmxm]

No I agree with you, it's game over now

I don't know much about it and I'm not a scientist, but it seems beyond saving now, the only thing that's left is damage control

 

[Sherri]

@ncmxm very true my friend, reminds me on an old Michael Jackson song called earth song the video predicted everything we are facing step by step. Goosebumps.

No I agree with you, it's game over now

I don't know much about it and I'm not a scientist, but it seems beyond saving now, the only thing that's left is damage control

 

[faex42]

I know that I will die, one way or the other, before our planet is destroyed by our own doing. Greta Thunderg sounded a clear warning and few in power
took her seriously. It sounds a bit selfish but I am glad that I don't have children or grandchildren that will have to experience the increasingly noxious effects
of climate control.

 

[Squalo]

one day, the human species will become extinct, it is only a matter of time;
our planet has lived billions of years and has endured all kinds of catastrophes, when it is tired of us we will be extinct, and all our cities will collapse.

 

[Sherri]

one day, the human species will become extinct, it is only a matter of time;
our planet has lived billions of years and has endured all kinds of catastrophes, when it is tired of us we will be extinct, and all our cities will collapse.

Not us, we have our pink spaceship with neon lights

I know that I will die, one way or the other, before our planet is destroyed by our own doing. Greta Thunderg sounded a clear warning and few in power
took her seriously. It sounds a bit selfish but I am glad that I don't have children or grandchildren that will have to experience the increasingly noxious effects
of climate control.

The problem with Greta is that she always looks upset. Angry, fuming, of course higher powers already questioned her mental health, surprise surprise.

 

[Looooser]

It's a long shot but I think it's still possible...... If you get rid of maybe half the population by tomorrow.

 

[Sherri]

@Looooser true and yet they don't approve euthanasia.

 

[faex42]

Not us, we have our pink spaceship with neon lights

The problem with Greta is that she always looks upset. Angry, fuming, of course higher powers already questioned her mental health, surprise surprise.

It's certainly the case that she has her own problems but people should be able to understand her as a real person and not be so impacted by her anger.
She never hid her own issues.

 

[demuic]

Will the planet continue to be suitable for human habitation for the foreeable future? Definitely not in my opinion.

But the Earth will survive this nonetheless, it has endured much worse, throughout the billions of years of this planet, extinctions, and changes in the dominant lifeforms have been numerous. Humanity is just a drop in the ocean. The earth doesn't need humans, we may be unique in some respects, but so were the dinosaurs. Humans were never going to last forever but have just quickened the inevitable end. Once humans are gone the planet will begin to cleanse itself. A different species may roam then.

 

[whywere]

No and yes. No, not if we do not get our act together quickly. Less people, (births), and work fast on pollution.

The flip side is a yes. Technology will NOT save us and yet it might. We have to go out among the stars period. The Earth is no more than an incubator for the human race. We are about a hundred or so years away from antimatter engines in spacecraft and warp drive, for real and faster than light speed to get us to other planets. We better get our act together and work together and no more damn wars (here that Putin!).

All one has to do is see that the dinosaurs were here for over 400 million years (humans have been around like 300 thousand is all) and they did not change or evolve or anything and they got wiped out and start all over again. The dinosaurs had a meteorite to thank, and we will have ourselves to thank if we go extinct.

Walter

 

[DisillusionedDragon]

The planet isn't dying or will ever be damaged beyond repair by us. Humans do not have that kind of power, they would just go extinct. Humans are changing the planet on a scale no other mammal ever has but even if we manage to impact it to the point of a major extinction event (unlikely), life will simply adapt and thrive again. It always has, even after much worse events. There have been mass extinctions where 75 % or more of all species have died out and look at where we are today. We have had rapid climate changes between average global temperatures of - 40 °C and +50 °C. We are currently actually living in an ice age, the global climate is much cooler than during most of earth's history.
All this climate change will do is make life more unpleasant for many humans in particularly affected areas. Incidentally those are also the people that contributed the least to the greenhouse gas emissions. But over all I think climate change will not be a major cause of human suffering. Probably even the effect of all the toxic chemicals we released into the earth and water are worse. But over all there are much much bigger causes of suffering than the change humans put/are putting the planet through.​

 

[motel rooms]

But the Earth will survive this nonetheless, it has endured much worse, throughout the billions of years of this planet, extinctions, and changes in the dominant lifeforms have been numerous. Humanity is just a drop in the ocean. The earth doesn't need humans.

Good thing I read this, I almost wrote the exact same thing. Also, the most probable fate of the Earth is eventual absorption by the Sun after it has entered the red giant phase and expanded beyond our planet's current orbit, so who gives a crap?

 

[noname223]

I think in theory we could still save. If we did huge changements as soon as possible. Though I doubt that this will happen. Voters don't think about longterm consequences. Most humans don't want to think about this stressful future catastrophe. And the politicians know that. No one wants to pay for the huge reforms we would need to implement.

 

[motel rooms]

Most humans don't want to think about this stressful future catastrophe. And the politicians know that. No one wants to pay for the huge reforms we would need to implement.

Many humans will survive global climate change & wars over water & food... Of course, a couple of billions of people are doomed, but they'll be forgotten in no time.

 

[davidgeorge]

The population will adjust to the resources available

 

[Deleted member 8975]

Saved for who? People? The planet has a course predetermined to me. I don't believe in freewill. I believe in mathematics.

 

[Sherri]

I think in theory we could still save. If we did huge changements as soon as possible. Though I doubt that this will happen. Voters don't think about longterm consequences. Most humans don't want to think about this stressful future catastrophe. And the politicians know that. No one wants to pay for the huge reforms we would need to implement.

I saw a documentary made me so sad, half of Australia Forrests burned. Half of the country in ashes countless species gone.

The population will adjust to the resources available

Fight for water?? I've been to the Middle East, they take water from the ocean and turn it into fresh water, why can't we do the same, the water isn't drinkable though, just to cook,clean and shower.
@whywere do you think there is still time? We are running out of fuel, how will the airplanes fly ?that will be the biggest challenge ever, are we going back to ships and coil Walter? Hugs

 

[noname223]

Many humans will survive global climate change & wars over water & food... Of course, a couple of billions of people are doomed, but they'll be forgotten in no time.

The question was can the planet still be saved. It pretty much depends on how you define that. The ecosystem might collapse due to the climate crisis. But yes many humans might survive. However when we compare how long humankind exists with the time this planet exists. It seems likely humankind will one day vanish and the planet is then kind of saved because of the plague called humans is gone. (Maybe this sounds too pessimistic.)

 

[whywere]

@Sherri, we seem to function the best when we are at a precibus and we have time BUT we have to 1) start now 2) try and change our behavior, as far as over population, too many kids and the like.

We are not that far away from going to Mars and seeing what we can do there. I was reading where light speed will be possible in a spacecraft and we have to get to that point, how by #1 and #2 and other means.

We are co-dependent right now on fossil fuels and that is one of the precibus that we have to deal with now.

Walter

 

[motel rooms]

The question was can the planet still be saved. It pretty much depends on how you define that. The ecosystem might collapse due to the climate crisis. But yes many humans might survive. However when we compare how long humankind exists with the time this planet exists. It seems likely humankind will one day vanish and the planet is then kind of saved because of the plague called humans is gone. (Maybe this sounds too pessimistic.)

Many humans will survive.

The population will adjust to the resources available

Are we the only "plague" to have ever evolved? Were all the dinosaurs saintly creatures? Don't be so sure that something a lot more despicable won't replace us when we go extinct.

 

[Nolan96]

I still think we don't know what we don't know when it comes to this sort of stuff. People have smartphones powered by strips of metal on the roof catching rays of sunlight. 150 years ago nobody could have conceived of that. Most future doom-scenarios from 150 years ago seem quaint and irrelevant. We could very well completely sort out all our problems with carbon emissions, water shortages, land scarcity, etc. by 2100 without some kind of catastrophe or purge by means not known to us yet.

The flipside is that new technologies could also be a lot more destructive or painful than we realize. Medieval torture devices are nothing compared to what mankind is capable of producing now. And when nuclear bombs were invented, some people thought it could set the atmosphere on fire and destroy all human civilization, but they were detonated anyway.

 

[noname223]

Many humans will survive.



Are we the only "plague" to have ever evolved? Were all the dinosaurs saintly creatures? Don't be so sure that something a lot more despicable won't replace us when we go extinct.

It depends on how we define survival. Homo sapiens exist since roundabout 300.000. The earth is like 4,5 billion years old. In the longrun humans won't survive. And climate change will probably speed up the process. But the humannkind could also for example die in a worldwar with nukes.

 

[motel rooms]

We could very well completely sort out all our problems with carbon emissions, water shortages, land scarcity, etc. by 2100 without some kind of catastrophe or purge by means not known to us yet.

2100? You think that's when global sea level will start rising?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/sea-level-rise-1

"Seas are predicted to rise a foot by 2050, regardless of how much global carbon emissions can be reduced.

When sea levels rise as rapidly as they have been, even a small increase can have devastating effects on coastal habitats farther inland, it can cause destructive erosion, wetland flooding, aquifer and agricultural soil contamination with salt, and lost habitat for plants and animals.

Higher sea levels are coinciding with more dangerous hurricanes and typhoons that move more slowly and drop more rain, contributing to more powerful storm surges that can strip away everything in their path. One study found that between 1963 and 2012, almost half of all deaths from Atlantic hurricanes were caused by storm surges.

Already, flooding in low-lying coastal areas is forcing people to migrate to higher ground, and millions more are vulnerable from flood risk and other climate change effects."

 

[Symbiote]

Planet will be around, but humanity won't. Organisms will adapt to the changing environments that would only sustain them, but humanity as a whole is doomed I tell ya...DOOOOOOMED!!!

 

[Nolan96]

2100? You think that's when global sea level will start rising?

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/sea-level-rise-1

"Seas are predicted to rise a foot by 2050, regardless of how much global carbon emissions can be reduced.

When sea levels rise as rapidly as they have been, even a small increase can have devastating effects on coastal habitats farther inland, it can cause destructive erosion, wetland flooding, aquifer and agricultural soil contamination with salt, and lost habitat for plants and animals.

Higher sea levels are coinciding with more dangerous hurricanes and typhoons that move more slowly and drop more rain, contributing to more powerful storm surges that can strip away everything in their path. One study found that between 1963 and 2012, almost half of all deaths from Atlantic hurricanes were caused by storm surges.

Already, flooding in low-lying coastal areas is forcing people to migrate to higher ground, and millions more are vulnerable from flood risk and other climate change effects."

I know climate change is already causing harm to a lot of people and animals. I'm sure that will continue for a long time and I didn't mean to be insensitive about that. The gist of the thread was more about whether we think the world / the human species will end.

 

[WrongPlaceWrongTime]

Too late for that. Humans might as well finish destroying the planet as soon as possible, we're already 60% of the way there.

Humanity has wiped out 60% of animal populations since 1970, report finds

The huge loss is a tragedy in itself but also threatens the survival of civilisation, say the world’s leading scientists

www.theguardian.com

 

[BurnBurnBurn]

No I don't think this world can be saved. We're past the point of no return on so many levels. I dunno how the world will end be it global warming (or nuclear war at this rate) but I can only hope I'm not around by that point. Hell, it's one of the main reasons why I don't want children because I don't want to bring life into a world that is this messed up.

 

[hungry_ghost]

Not in this age.

Humans are far too selfish, stupid, and evil to ever collaborate among themselves for a greater good.

The "elite" will attempt it, but it will be at the cost of hundreds of thousands of human lives, and our freedom.

 

[WoAiGou]

The time to save the planet was after world war 2, when the US had the chance to ally with China and The USSR and embrace socialism. We're doomed, like 40 years beyond the point of being able to do anything to combat climate change. Too much inertia in this capitalist system, too much hatred amongst countries ,amongst different looking people, too much exploitation of animals.