Do people hate suicide because it reveals clearly that this life just might not be worth it?

[Ambivalent1]

That you can spend decades struggling because you think this all matters only to watch someone run past you on a scenic bridge and jump to their death shattering your worldview.

 

[FrostedHoax]

I think some people hate it because of the pain it causes to those close to people who've done it so they perceive it as "selfish". They just can't fathom the ridiculous amount of suffering that causes someone to get to that point because they've never gotten to that point themselves. Also, being anti-suicide is very heavily engrained into society so a lot of people just call it "wrong" without actually truly thinking about it and forming their own views on it.

 

[MrDarkness]

Some people don't hate it, they don't think it's normal, because it isn't, your brain doesn't naturally want to off yourself, it doesn't, it's due to plenty of issues. I'm not saying people who want to ctb are ill, I want to ctb soon, but some people just think that is waste of a life

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think that could be at least part of it. I imagine that's also why the 'normies' always seem to want to attribute suicide to mental illness. They probably don't like to entertain the thought that someone CAN even make the rational decision to take their own life.

I imagine for them- the parameters to make that decision need to be narrow- either the person is in chronic pain with a terminal illness or- they're just plain crazy. Otherwise- it means everyone they know, including themselves is at risk. If they hate the idea of suicide- I imagine they will also hate not being given warning signs in order to be able to try and stop it.

 

[suicidal flapper]

I think some people are just afraid of the idea that our mental state is just as fragile as our physical state. At any point we can just get hit by a car or die a horrible death in any fashion. The thought that our mental health is no different probably scares a lot of people to denial

Though maybe they don't even think about it I don't know really

 

[vitbar]

I don't think this is it. I think it has more to do with a few things.

Death of people around you is generally a sad thing. Grief and loss are difficult. Suicide threatens this.

On top of this it is seen as preventable. A lot of the things that lead people to kill themselves are treatable. This makes these deaths more tragic.

Finding out that someone feels so bad they are considering it is also difficult to face.

 

[90starve]

honestly, it just baffles me that a lot of people have never experienced thoughts of suicide before.

 

[アホペンギン]

That you can spend decades struggling because you think this all matters only to watch someone run past you on a scenic bridge and jump to their death shattering your worldview.

I feel that most people in this world view suicide as a bad thing and try to encourage people to turn from committing suicide because its a moral obligation that they were taught at either a young age or at any part of their life. They don't necessarily form their own opinions but instead mindlessly agree with people who form their own opinions about how suicide is bad. If they felt as we did, they would understand how we feel and most likely change their views about the subject. This is pretty much what happened to me. I used be naive and think it was selfish to commit suicide as you could be helped and your life would change for the better after getting your problems fixed, but after realizing how people really feel, my views on suicide changed.

 

[Ambivalent1]

I feel that most people in this world view suicide as a bad thing and try to encourage people to turn from committing suicide because its a moral obligation that they were taught at either a young age or at any part of their life. They don't necessarily form their own opinions but instead mindlessly agree with people who form their own opinions about how suicide is bad. If they felt as we did, they would understand how we feel and most likely change their views about the subject. This is pretty much what happened to me. I used be naive and think it was selfish to commit suicide as you could be helped and your life would change for the better after getting your problems fixed, but after realizing how people really feel, my views on suicide changed.

Why don't they think for themselves?

 

[Mr2005]

I think because they could have done it themselves

 

[_smile_]

I believe it's frowned upon due to a lack of understanding regarding the motive behind someone taking their own life. We're all here for many different reasons. It's not black or white. This leads to a variety of close mindedness and ignorance, as people are often unwilling to accept what they cannot fully, conceptually grasp.

 

[アホペンギン]

Why don't they think for themselves?

They were taught by pro-lifers to think about suicide as a bad thing at a young age. As children, most people i knew considered death as an undesirable thing so maybe after thinking about it like that for the majority of their lives, they finally came to the conclusion that suicide is selfish and not the right way to solve their problems.

 

[Ambivalent1]

They were taught by pro-lifers to think about suicide as a bad thing at a young age. As children, most people i knew considered death as an undesirable thing so maybe after thinking about it like that for the majority of their lives, they finally came to the conclusion that suicide is selfish and not the right way to solve their problems.

"Their problems." They think others are projections of themselves.

 

[AllFoxedOut]

honestly, it just baffles me that a lot of people have never experienced thoughts of suicide before.

I recall reading that more people have homicidal ideation (of varying intensity) than suicidal ideation

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I think being against suicide is a basic human instinct. If we go back in time more than 10k years before humans started to settle down each individual even though handicaped was essential for the clans/society. And especially this is not the case nowadays. The world would still be functioning very well even if 2 or 3 billion humans commited suicide in the same time.

Most "mental problems" so many people have nowadays are not natural they are caused by the society and circumstances we are forced to live in which have nothing to do with the way we were created to live. And that is the cause for so many suicidal people seeing no chance and no life and no future for them personally.

 

[90starve]

I recall reading that more people have homicidal ideation (of varying intensity) than suicidal ideation

whaaat? that's an insane and crazy statistic

 

[AllFoxedOut]

whaaat? that's an insane and crazy statistic

the statistic comes from surveying college students where it was reported that between about 51% and 93% had admitted to fantasising about homicide. of course hardly any of these people act upon these thoughts and they might not be particularly intense.

but yeah, I guess killing each other comes more naturally to humans than killing oneself.

 

[Kerrtu]

I feel many people resent the idea of suicide. They compare their lives and possessions and social status, income, only to see others who largely don't see those material items as life-defining. It makes people feel uncomfortable; why, or rather how would anyone walk away from all of that? What does it all mean? They begin to ask themselves questions but aren't prepared for the raw answers and discomfort.

I've known quite a few people throughout my life who have confided in me they either attempted in their past, or thought of suicide passively, etc. These are people with high salary careers, luxury cars, nice clothing, multiple homes, access to excellent health care, etc.

A person I'm thinking of specifically, who I'm no longer in contact with, appeared to "have it all" in that dreadful, artificial sense - people likely saw this person as having no serious problems or struggles. This person chooses to live their life closeted, stay in a marriage they are lonely and unhappy with. Ultimately, social status and the perks of wealth are what keeps this person here (not here in this forum).

This is similarly odd when it comes to the concept of freedom. It sounds wonderful, and people fight for it, but there's a fine print many people miss entirely when they have committed to a life on the grind. When/if they wake up to it, it's often not pleasant.

 

[Shaylla1998]

I do believe that there is a very small group of people who look down on suicide for this reason. However, I think that the majority of people associate negativity with suicide primarily because of societal norms, religious and cultural influences.

 

[FuneralCry]

Yes and so many just don't wish to accept that death is more appealing for so many in this dreadful reality as it shatters their delusional beliefs.

Instead they label wanting to die as being an "illness", completely disregarding the fact that seeing non-existence as being preferable is just having awareness of how truly harmful and futile existing is. I think the true irrational thing is wishing to endure this existence where all that is inevitable is even more suffering, loss and decay, to me there is nothing desirable about having the ability to suffer endlessly.

 

[Creeping Death]

I don't think it makes people think, "life is not worth it," unless they already have some suicidal ideation going on.

I remember times in my life when I was so happy that it was heartbreaking to me that other people would cdb. I was full of compassion, and wished they had the same contentment that I had.

Even after 23 years of pain and depression, I still valued my life. Then, one day (about a year ago), things just crossed a line where I could no longer cope. My fear of death turned into a fear of living.