Method Detergent suicide

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Does anyone know the chemicals A person needs to buy in order to commit suicide this way?

 

[hunter_lewis]

Does anyone know the chemicals A person needs to buy in order to commit suicide this way?

it's not reliable and a good idea.
I urge you to rethink

 

[Voldmort]

I found it easily in Portuguese, so it should be easy to search in English too

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Can anyone tell me more specifically what I need to do?

 

[hunter_lewis]

Can anyone tell me more specifically what I need to do?

have you read the PPH? It has an excellent chapter.
I would not recommend it as it is unreliable, and there are some antidotes like simeticone and dimeticone. And choking to death on bubbles is not fun.

 

[Roph]

And choking to death on bubbles is not fun.

I agree. That's a unique way of looking at it.

 

[Gainax]

some digging
http://www.ilpi.com/safety/downloads/hazmat_suicide.pdf

At 700 ppm just 2-3 breaths can cause immediate death

To make hydrogen sulfide, it is necessary to mix a hydrochloric acid with a sulfur-containing compound. Often, hydrochloric acid is mixed with lime sulfur, which has a 28% solution of calcium polysulfide. These chemicals can easily be bought from a grocery store or hardware store.

Approximately half of a cup of each chemical, hydrochloric acid and lime sulfur, will produce about 1,000 PPM of H2S in a confined location of approximately 3,500 cubic feet. People mixing these chemicals have often mixed several containers of each to increase the volume of gas produced. One of the chemicals is a base, the other an acid, creating a violent exothermic reaction (a chemical change accompanied by a liberation of heat).

The IDLH (Immediately Dangerous to Life or Health) threshold for hydrogen sulfide is 100 PPM. Suicidal individuals mix a highly potent 1,000 PPM or more of H2S. Even a single breath of H2S at 1,000 PPM will cause the individual to immediately collapse with cardiopulmonary arrest.

http://psychokiller2punto0.blogspot.com/2011/03/detergent-suicides-deadly-phenomenon.html

 

[Gainax]

 

[BjartNO]

I think this would be one of the more horrific ways you could choose to go
I urge you to reconsider

 

[Lime]

Hydrogen sulfide is a potent gas more deadly than carbon monoxide gas where death occurs more quickly.
Strong Acid + Calcium Polysulfides solution -> Hydrogen sulfide (H2S)* If in a bathroom or a car,enough with each 2 litters (about half gallon).* You can use sulfuric acid of a car battery as strong acid, and you can use a pesticide lime sulfur as calcium polysulfides.It reaches a fatal concentration over 1000ppm quickly, Please mix in a vessel, such as buckets. If done properly consciousness should be lost in under two seconds and the entire process will be painless. Mix in a small **airtight** location for best results. Leave warning signs around the area for first responders.Acid Sources:
**The Works(R) Toilet Bowl Cleaner (15-25 percent HCl)**Lysol(R) Ready to Use Disinfectant (4-8 percent citric and hydroxyacetic acid) Lysol(R) Toilet Bowl Cleaner (9.5 percent HCl) Sno Bol(R) Toilet Cleaner (15 percent HCl) Blu-Lite(R) Germicidal Acid Bowl Cleaner (20.5 percent phosphoric acid) Kaboom(R) Shower, Tub, and Tile Cleaner (5-7 percent urea-monohydrochloric acid) Tile, stone cleaners (1-30 percent HCl) Sulfur Sources:
**Pesticides (5-30 percent calcium polysulfides)**Artist oil paints (0-15 percent zinc sulfide) Dandruff shampoos (1.0 percent selenium sulfide) Spackling paste (1-2 percent zinc sulfide) Some latex paints (6.6 percent zinc sulfide) Garden fungicides (5-90 percent sulfur)

 

[Retched]

I destroyed my life using this method. My car, everything. Huge hospital bills. Don't do it. I couldn't taste anything for weeks either.

 

[Gainax]

I think this would be one of the more horrific ways you could choose to go
I urge you to reconsider

the main problem is the time need to achieved lethal level as seen in the videos, perhaps several buckets could shorten the lethal level time
the other problem is the liquid resulted from the reaction could result in corroded flesh inside a car

 

[BjartNO]

the main problem is the time need to achieved lethal level as seen in the videos, perhaps several buckets could shorten the lethal level time
the other problem is the liquid resulted from the reaction could result in corroded flesh inside a car

When I read "detergent suicide" it made me think of drinking bleach etc
But yeah hydrogen sulfide gas is something else entirely

 

[Gainax]

yeah its amazing, common household products mixed and immediate death at 1000ppm
the concern is..how much time is needed to attain 1000ppm and what products to choose

1 bucket of 32oz =9 minutes to reach > 1000ppm

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Maybe Retched should tell us about her experience so we can learn from it?

 

[worldexploder]

I was actually surprised to see it on the PPHB. It's sounds like a bad method.

 

[Sayo]

I was actually surprised to see it on the PPHB. It's sounds like a bad method.

They discourage it extremely strongly. I think it's only included because the components are so accessible, which is a unique consideration.

 

[Sickofit]

Would be extremely painful.

 

[littlelungs]

There are people who died from eating Tide Pods... but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone AT ALL, whether they actively wanted to die or not. Seems like it would be painful as all hell.

 

[dysfunctional]

I destroyed my life using this method. My car, everything. Huge hospital bills. Don't do it. I couldn't taste anything for weeks either.

Dayum

 

[WaysToSuicide]

Hydrogen sulfide is a potent gas more deadly than carbon monoxide gas where death occurs more quickly.
Strong Acid + Calcium Polysulfides solution -> Hydrogen sulfide (H2S)* If in a bathroom or a car,enough with each 2 litters (about half gallon).* You can use sulfuric acid of a car battery as strong acid, and you can use a pesticide lime sulfur as calcium polysulfides.It reaches a fatal concentration over 1000ppm quickly, Please mix in a vessel, such as buckets. If done properly consciousness should be lost in under two seconds and the entire process will be painless. Mix in a small **airtight** location for best results. Leave warning signs around the area for first responders.Acid Sources:
**The Works(R) Toilet Bowl Cleaner (15-25 percent HCl)**Lysol(R) Ready to Use Disinfectant (4-8 percent citric and hydroxyacetic acid) Lysol(R) Toilet Bowl Cleaner (9.5 percent HCl) Sno Bol(R) Toilet Cleaner (15 percent HCl) Blu-Lite(R) Germicidal Acid Bowl Cleaner (20.5 percent phosphoric acid) Kaboom(R) Shower, Tub, and Tile Cleaner (5-7 percent urea-monohydrochloric acid) Tile, stone cleaners (1-30 percent HCl) Sulfur Sources:
**Pesticides (5-30 percent calcium polysulfides)**Artist oil paints (0-15 percent zinc sulfide) Dandruff shampoos (1.0 percent selenium sulfide) Spackling paste (1-2 percent zinc sulfide) Some latex paints (6.6 percent zinc sulfide) Garden fungicides (5-90 percent sulfur)

Obviously you described this pretty well...does it work reasonably well tho?

 

[WaysToSuicide]

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I destroyed my life using this method. My car, everything. Huge hospital bills. Don't do it. I couldn't taste anything for weeks either.

I'm sorry

 

[bigj75]

Volatile is that you?

 

[Retched]

Maybe Retched should tell us about her experience so we can learn from it?

Not much to tell...I mixed together chemicals in a big bucket in my car, was drunk and ended up doing it somewhere I was found too quickly. I was out of my mind on vodka and it really ruined my life and my car. Paramedics wrapped everything of mine in "danger" bags and broke out my car windows to save me... but had my car towed to a lot then I had them take it to the shop next door, and they said they couldn't save it. And I got money from my insurance... I was never charged with open containers. So if there was a "bright side" there's that.

It was an awful and impulsive thing I did. Wish I had found this forum prior to it all, I would have planned better. I found the recipe online and bought it all at local hardware stores. It is easy to google the recipes. And like I said, I wasn't methodical. Boy did I learn a gigantic lesson. I'm still in shock I did it, in shock it didn't work, and beating myself up for not hiding my car better. I was stupid, I'll be the first to admit it.

I couldn't smell anything or taste anything for quite a while. That's coming back. Fortunate or not, I'm as healthy as can be.

I'm now looking into N and having an awful time overcoming survival instinct with partial. Also going to apply for a gun permit eventually...If I don't decide on N. I can still do that because I wasn't put into emergency custody for god knows whatever reason that is. So, yeah. That's that.

I don't know. I don't recall the day very well. Only that I found the recipes online, decided to cook it up and destroyed my life as I knew it. I guess that is one lesson everyone can take about being impulsive and stupid. It just doesn't get you to where you need to go. I feel weird talking about it because of the shame I carry around with me for being so dumb that day. Maybe it will give me a little peace to get it off my chest. I guess ask if you have questions. I'll try to answer but my mind has blocked out that day for the most part. And I don't know how they "saved me." I never asked.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Thanks.

 

[hunter_lewis]

have you read the PPH? It has an excellent chapter.
I would not recommend it as it is unreliable, and there are some antidotes like simeticone and dimeticone. And choking to death on bubbles is not fun.

Edit: I have mixed up a couple of things. Dimeticone and simeticone are NOT antidotes for the method in the PPH: namely, by mixing up chemicals to create a poisonous gas.
There is another method that sometimes people die by: they drink a lot of detergent and choke to death on bubbles. The antidote to this is dimeticone because it breaks up the bubbles. Howeover it is not reliable and so not recommended.

 

[Retched]

Lol, choke on bubbles? I thought we were talking about mixing chemicals in a bucket & breathing fumes

 

[LostBoy]

I think this is the method my son used although I've still to get the official report.
To my knowledge he had one attempt and made it work, he was a very clever guy and he did his homework.

 

[lost_soul83]

some digging
http://www.ilpi.com/safety/downloads/hazmat_suicide.pdf

At 700 ppm just 2-3 breaths can cause immediate death



http://psychokiller2punto0.blogspot.com/2011/03/detergent-suicides-deadly-phenomenon.html

Thank you for posting this, might do a test run first.

 

[JustAboutDone]

I think this is the method my son used although I've still to get the official report.
To my knowledge he had one attempt and made it work, he was a very clever guy and he did his homework.

Bless you and him xx