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timetodie24

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" Not for one, for 6, for none" is a message I've been given but I can't decode it. My time is running out and I'm wondering if the 6 is to the with date 6/6 ? But it could also mean many other things.

I think the message has something to do with my suicide and/or others coming to harm. I know I have to ctb before I harm others but not sure what these numbers and messages mean. As it may mean I have to do it on certain date and in a certain way in order to save others.

I know I sound crazy but it's a genuine message and I will be grateful to them if that message does mean I'm closer to ctb .
 
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Context about who sent you the message would help.
 
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You don't have to ctb. Ever. This is not something that is controlled by anyone else. Ctb is a choice you and you alone make.

Without context, it sounds like you are being heavily influenced by outside information, whether actual or produced by your own mind. I would highly suggest you seek medical assistance.
 
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timetodie24

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Context about who sent you the message would help.
Sorry it's all vague. Idk who exactly but someone or something has been taking control of my mind and my life for a while . It put the message in my mind.

You don't have to ctb. Ever. This is not something that is controlled by anyone else. Ctb is a choice you and you alone make.

Without context, it sounds like you are being heavily influenced by outside information, whether actual or produced by your own mind. I would highly suggest you seek medical assistance.
That's true, it's wrong that I'm being controlled this way but i'm going to ctb either way so maybe a bit of pressure doesn't harm
 
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Something to do with the number 160? Kinda hard to get any meaning from this without a shit ton more information so that's the best I got
 
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timetodie24

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Something to do with the number 160? Kinda hard to get any meaning from this without a shit ton more information so that's the best I got

Hmm maybe yeah, I have been thinking about it representing a number/ numerical code.
Thank you for suggestion. It's ok i don't expect anyone to be able to , just venting really. I'm guessing it will hold some personal meaning to me so i'm likely only one able to fully understand it
 
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timetodie24

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Who gave you that number?
the message came from something/someone that has been using mind control on me and trying to take over my life.
 
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mellie5

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hello -

this is a classic symptom of schizophrenia called "thought insertion". Other similar symptoms are "thought broadcasting" (others can hear your thoughts) and "thought withdrawal" (somebody can steal your thoughts). These are all "first rank" symptoms.

This link will show other symptoms of schizophrenia:


since nobody can diagnose you through a web forum and the mind control seems real to you, it would be sensible for you to see a doctor so schizophrenia can be excluded.

I understand you are absolutely certain that an entity controls you and you might think a doctor cannot help because there is nothing wrong with you.

The doctor, however, can see if there are other symptoms suggestive of schizophrenia and decide whether you have this or not.

In any case, there are chemical substances that can prevent you from being controlled by an outside entity and those will be prescribed to you and the control will vanish. You will have to take them regularly as prescribed. With time, this may be switched to an injection taken at intervals that can even reach three months, so just 4 injections a year.
 
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yeah prob what mellie said but im too interested in ciphers to let this pass.

defo not encoded in any way, and i dont think that it is ciphered.
maybe related to 160, or -1, 6, and 0. like in the way of a password.
Or maybe it is like something that isn't for individual use, but has to be used by 6 or nobody.

but what it surprised me is that you wrote 6 in number form specifically and it just kinda jumps out. if it was inserted in yor brain, how would you differenciate between six and 6? or im probably overthinking.

also, having the thought of needing to ctb for external causes or the thought of harming is horrible. unsure about how this would relate but really, go see a doctor if it gets really bad.
 
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"Not for one" This suggest that the decision to commit suicide isn't made for oneself alone, but rather to relieve a burden felt to be shared with others.

"for 6" This imply that the act is seen as benefiting a small group of people (possibly six) by removing what the individual perceives as their own negative influence or burden on these people.

"for none" This interpreted as the belief that, in the end, it brings a resolution where the individual feels their suffering and the perceived burden on others ceases, resulting in an ultimate state of 'none' an end to the pain for everyone involved

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"Not for one" that the act of suicide is not solely about the individual who is contemplating it. It suggests that the decision encompasses more than just the individual's suffering.

"for 6" the individual believes their suicide will have a significant impact on six other people, potentially alleviating perceived burdens or problems for them.

"for none" ultimately, suicide will lead to a state where there is no suffering for anyone involved, as the person's own pain and the perceived negative impact on others would end
 
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timetodie24

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hello -

this is a classic symptom of schizophrenia called "thought insertion". Other similar symptoms are "thought broadcasting" (others can hear your thoughts) and "thought withdrawal" (somebody can steal your thoughts). These are all "first rank" symptoms.
I have evidence that it's not delusions. Also did speak to MH professional this week, couldn't mention the 'thought insertion' as have to protect others. But she did write in notes no signs of psychosis or distorted thinking. So i must have no other signs of schizophrenia either.
defo not encoded in any way, and i dont think that it is ciphered.
maybe related to 160, or -1, 6, and 0. like in the way of a password.
Or maybe it is like something that isn't for individual use, but has to be used by 6 or nobody.

but what it surprised me is that you wrote 6 in number form specifically and it just kinda jumps out. if it was inserted in yor brain, how would you differenciate between six and 6? or im probably overthinking.
Hmm those have given me a few ideas to think about thankyou . Writing 6 rather than six was unintentional, not sure why I did that. But it's interesting you mention as like you say, I can't differentiate , i heard it not saw it . And I had been thinking about whether 'for' was actually '4/four' so ' not 46-41' .
"Not for one" This suggest that the decision to commit suicide isn't made for oneself alone, but rather to relieve a burden felt to be shared with others.

"for 6" This imply that the act is seen as benefiting a small group of people (possibly six) by removing what the individual perceives as their own negative influence or burden on these people.

"for none" This interpreted as the belief that, in the end, it brings a resolution where the individual feels their suffering and the perceived burden on others ceases, resulting in an ultimate state of 'none' an end to the pain for everyone involved

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"Not for one" that the act of suicide is not solely about the individual who is contemplating it. It suggests that the decision encompasses more than just the individual's suffering.

"for 6" the individual believes their suicide will have a significant impact on six other people, potentially alleviating perceived burdens or problems for them.

"for none" ultimately, suicide will lead to a state where there is no suffering for anyone involved, as the person's own pain and the perceived negative impact on others would end
This is interesting thank you. I had been considering about it relating to numbers of people. 6 could relate to my family. But what you say about it relating to impact on people is something I hadn't considered .
 
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I also agree with a previous poster that this sounds like schizophrenia.
I believe people can very rarely under very specific circumstances receive spiritual messages, but those usually come with a telepathic knowledge, and that knowledge is primary, words are just secondary, so they do not need deciphering. The knowledge is transferred, the words are secondary.
So I believe that messages that need deciphering and unclear and take control of our lives are due to a diseased mind, mainly schizophrenia.
I heard of people getting a very short, specific, precise, non-emotional message at the time of imminent deadly danger, and this has happened to people who otherwise never hear words, nor they are any way spiritual. And the words they heard had very clear meaning since they were instructions that had to be followed without a millisecond hesitation. So I think the spiritual realm rarely communicates, but when it does, it is short, precise, clear, and not up for interpretation. For this reason I firmly believe that if there are voices talking to us in mysterious unclear and complicated puzzles, it is a sign of a diseased mind.
 
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mellie5

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Hello -

you wrote "Also did speak to MH professional this week, couldn't mention the 'thought insertion' as have to protect others. But she did write in notes no signs of psychosis or distorted thinking"

Well yes, if you don't tell her these things and lie to her, she will write "no signs of psychosis"

A psychosis is a distorted perception of reality.

A delusion is an unshakeable belief in something, no matter what the evidence to the contrary.

As you have seen, thought insertion is a first-rank symptom of schizophrenia.

If your nose is stuffy and you have a temperature, you probably have a cold - but it could be something exotic like an infection that is making you leak cerebrospinal fluid, which is an emergency.

If you have thought insertion, it could be schizophrenia. You said it's true and you have evidence but for some reason you lie about it. Fine.

I am telling you that there is medication that can prevent thought insertion. I am not saying you have schizophrenia. I am not saying that you are not controlled by an entity.

Tell the doctor you have thought insertion.

The belief that not decyphering the message will lead to harm is btw an example of "magical thinking".

Again, I am not saying that you are not controlled. I am saying that there is medication that prevents you from being controlled.

Psychiatrists study a minimum of 10 years to become psychiatrists, why don't you tell someone with experience in thought insertion about this and all the other symptoms you might have? check the link I gave you, the negative signs of schizophrenia are somewhat similar to depression.

The medicine will stop the entity from controlling you. But if you have a delusion then you won't believe my statement even if you read the whole internet and 20 psychiatrists tell you. You have to tell them, take the medication and you will no longer be controlled.

Again, I am not saying this is not true, I am saying medicine can prevent you from being controlled.

Unfortunately untreated schizophrenia has mortality rate of about 20% by suicide.

as for your message:

not for one = -4*1 = -4
for 6 = 4*6 = 24
for none = 4*0 = 0

sum them up and you get 20

Paranoid schizophrenia in classified in the ICD-10 (international classification of diseases) under F20

The message is saying you have schizophrenia.

Please see a specialist and tell the truth, you will see how quickly the control will disappear.
 
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According to numerology

What does 160 mean in numerology?
The three-digit number "160" resonates with vibrations of wisdom, understanding and knowledge. The number is also a quester on a mission for more universal insight. For this number, seeing the truth is both a life mission and what drives it forwards — and its inner mission is never over. Its primary energy, which is notably wise — expresses a intuitive or curious feeling .
 
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timetodie24

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I also agree with a previous poster that this sounds like schizophrenia.
I believe people can very rarely under very specific circumstances receive spiritual messages, but those usually come with a telepathic knowledge, and that knowledge is primary, words are just secondary, so they do not need deciphering. The knowledge is transferred, the words are secondary.
So I believe that messages that need deciphering and unclear and take control of our lives are due to a diseased mind, mainly schizophrenia.
Interesting take. I'm not spiritual but I don't think it's that clear cut. Some people who describe spiritual experiences struggle to decipher what they mean.
But anyway it's not spiritual for me, this is not a ghost or some 'entity' that isn't really there. This is something real, living and evil
The medicine will stop the entity from controlling you. But if you have a delusion then you won't believe my statement even if you read the whole internet and 20 psychiatrists tell you. You have to tell them, take the medication and you will no longer be controlled.

Again, I am not saying this is not true, I am saying medicine can prevent you from being controlled.
e truth, you will see how quickly the control will disappear.
I appreciate you're trying to help and taking time. But clearly you don't believe me. Medicine for schizophrenia or other psychotic disorders, i.e antipsychotics, can stop or reduce hallucinations and delusions . It can't stop things that are truly happening.

What is a delusion to once person could be something someone else is really experiencing. For example, person A may be seeing shadows that aren't there and hearing voices that aren't there so start to believe someone is stalking them. Person B may genuinely have someone stalking them and have video evidence of this.

With antipsychotics, person A's hallucinations stop and they realise they're not being stalked. For person B, the meds do nothing as it is real and meds won't stop a stalker.
Meds can stop the belief of being controlled if it's not real but if it is real, they can't stop it .
It is real as i have tested my 'beliefs' so no med won't stop the mind control.
 
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timetodie24

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According to numerology

What does 160 mean in numerology?
The three-digit number "160" resonates with vibrations of wisdom, understanding and knowledge. The number is also a quester on a mission for more universal insight. For this number, seeing the truth is both a life mission and what drives it forwards — and its inner mission is never over. Its primary energy, which is notably wise — expresses a intuitive or curious feeling .
Hmm that's interesting thanks. That does relate to the need to work this out and protect people. Still very vague though so must be more for me to work out
 
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rozeske

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Doctors or specialists are not psychics. You can't be properly diagnosed and helped unless you tell them the full story. What is the purpose of seeing a specialist if you are not going to tell them about the mind control and the evidence you have collected?
 
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timetodie24

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Doctors or specialists are not psychics. You can't be properly diagnosed and helped unless you tell them the full story. What is the purpose of seeing a specialist if you are not going to tell them about the mind control and the evidence you have collected?
I know, I don't expect them to read my mind. I just mean I can't have been showing any other signs. People with schizophrenia are likely to be floridly psychotic in an acute episode which means they won't have the awareness to hide things and their behaviour will clearly be very unusual to everyone.
I did tell GP that something was controlling my mind, they put it down as anxiety and referred me to the MHP. So i don't think they understood what I was saying (it was rushed phonecall, I was stuttering and they were getting frustrated with me).
I did talk to MHP about some stuff, just not this. I was too anxious to as others lives are on the line. The problem is how this is all making me feel and that others are at risk. The problem is not my mind.
They didn't give me much chance to explain things either as they were too focused on anxiety and autism (they always blame everything on autism). They sent me so links on emotional regulation and recommended I try podcasts and TED talks. So clearly they agree I'm not unwell and aren't concerned. I told them other stuff, they even know I'm suicidal and self harm, just not messages. They can't help and I can't trust MHPs because of my previous experiences with them. And these failed appts. show evidence that I'm not meant to be heard as not meant to talk about it
 
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Sounds to me more like the opposite of 'one for all and all for one'. As in- don't do anything you don't want to for someone, six people, no one. That's my take for what it's worth.
 
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I know, I don't expect them to read my mind. I just mean I can't have been showing any other signs. People with schizophrenia are likely to be floridly psychotic in an acute episode which means they won't have the awareness to hide things and their behaviour will clearly be very unusual to everyone.
I did tell GP that something was controlling my mind, they put it down as anxiety and referred me to the MHP. So i don't think they understood what I was saying (it was rushed phonecall, I was stuttering and they were getting frustrated with me).
I did talk to MHP about some stuff, just not this. I was too anxious to as others lives are on the line. The problem is how this is all making me feel and that others are at risk. The problem is not my mind.
They didn't give me much chance to explain things either as they were too focused on anxiety and autism (they always blame everything on autism). They sent me so links on emotional regulation and recommended I try podcasts and TED talks. So clearly they agree I'm not unwell and aren't concerned. I told them other stuff, they even know I'm suicidal and self harm, just not messages. They can't help and I can't trust MHPs because of my previous experiences with them. And these failed appts. show evidence that I'm not meant to be heard as not meant to talk about it
First unless you are a specialist it would help if you stop diagnosing yourself or others regarding mental illnesses or defining what it should or shouldn't look like. leave that to the professionals. They are also inclined to misdiagnose you or put their focus elsewhere far from the actual issue if they are not given the full picture. When they don't know what really is going in your head they can recommend solutions that are of no use to you. It's not because they don't care, rather they are being mislead. They can't help if they don't know what you need help on. When you feel like you are being rushed before you had a chance to explain all your concerns, you should push to be heard and to voice your full concerns if you care about the wellbeing of others as much as you claim. No professional would dismiss you when not only your life's on the line it's also others lives that is now in danger.
 
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timetodie24

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Sounds to me more like the opposite of 'one for all and all for one'. As in- don't do anything you don't want to for someone, six people, no one. That's my take for what it's worth.
Thank you for your perspective. Everyones' interpretations has given me a lot to think about.
First unless you are a specialist it would help if you stop diagnosing yourself or others regarding mental illnesses or defining what it should or shouldn't look like. leave that to the professionals. They are also inclined to misdiagnose you or put their focus elsewhere far from the actual issue if they are not given the full picture. When they don't know what really is going in your head they can recommend solutions that are of no use to you. It's not because they don't care, rather they are being mislead. They can't help if they don't know what you need help on. When you feel like you are being rushed before you had a chance to explain all your concerns, you should push to be heard and to voice your full concerns if you care about the wellbeing of others as much as you claim. No professional would dismiss you when not only your life's on the line it's also others lives that is now in danger.
I've never claimed to diagnose myself or anyone else. I was simply describing the evidence that my 'presentation' doesn't match that described in literature or diagnostic manuals. I have undergrad and masters in psychology and experience/training in mental health from various charities I have volunteered for . So i'm not making stuff up and have knowledge from legit sources. It by no means makes me an expert and i would never claim to be able to assess/diagnose anyone. Yet many are trying to diagnose me on here which is misinformed and completely unethical. It's a suicide forum not a role-playing dr forum.

It's not as easy as pushing to be heard as speaking to people is extremely difficult due to my autism. More importantly i've been warned that disclosing to professionals or family/friends will put others in serious danger.

And professionals do dismiss . In the past, when I was suicidal but wasn't ready to ctb. I did tell professionals full ctb plan. They sent a youtube video on meditation and said see you in a week (despite it being past the date i disclosed). So i did go through with it and was very ill but survived (stupid method before i found SS) . That's common in uk so only thoughts of hurting others / them being in danger won't lead to support. But either way 'support' won't help, gaslighting and sedating me into ignoring the messages will only lead to many deaths.
 
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mellie5

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Hello -

you wrote that you have evidence that you are controlled by an entity and are sure of that and yet I don't believe you.

If you read all my replies to you, none of them say I don't believe you.

I am just telling you that there are chemical substances that prevent you from being controlled by an entity.

I never mentioned antipsychotic medication. I never mentioned in fact a single substance.

I am telling you that since a doctor knows about chemistry, he knows about substances that prevent you from being controlled from an outside entity.

If you take the substance, you have two outcomes: either it works or it doesn't. If it doesn't, things will stay as they are. If it works, then the entity will stop controlling you.

If the substance happens to be under the chemical classification of "antipsychotic" it doesn't mean it works only for psychoses or "hallucinations" as you wrote. In fact, there are many psychoses that are not schizophrenia, even severe psychotic depression.

Again:

a psychosis is a false perception of reality

a delusion is an unshakeable belief in something, no matter what the evidence

a hallucination is a perception in the absence of stimulus, perceived as real. These can be optical, auditory, tactile, gustatory or olfactory

schizophrenia is a disease, not a symptom

Aspirin is classified as "anti-inflammatory" but is used also in the prevention of heart disease even without an inflammation

hydroxyzine is classified as "anti-histaminic" but is also used to reduce anxiety and not only for people with allergies

olanzapine is classified as "anti-psychotic" but is also used to prevent entities from controlling minds

Not in one post I called you crazy, not in one post I said you are psychotic.

Being controlled by an entity, even with evidence, however, is often a symptom of schizophrenia and it would be better if it could be excluded

If I have a chest pain I would prefer that someone exclude a heart attack and maybe give me a painkiller

If an entity controlled my mind I would prefer that someone ruled out schizophrenia and maybe gave me an entity-blocking substance

Your brain works on chemistry and there are substances that will block the mind control.

You trust us here by telling us your symptoms, then do trust us when we all say don't lie to the doctor.

It looks like your belief is unshakeable, which as we saw above is not a good sign. You could tell the doctor about it and then tell us the doctor told me I don't have schizophrenia, but gave me something and now the entity no longer controls me. Why not try?
 
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timetodie24

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If an entity controlled my mind I would prefer that someone ruled out schizophrenia and maybe gave me an entity-blocking substance

Your brain works on chemistry and there are substances that will block the mind control.
doctor.

It looks like your belief is unshakeable, which as we saw above is not a good sign. You could tell the doctor about it and then tell us the doctor told me I don't have schizophrenia, but gave me something and now the entity no longer controls me. Why not try?
I appreciate your understanding and that you're trying to be helpful.
But there are no entity blocking substances. Medications can stop people having false beliefs (such as someone believing they are under mind control when evidence suggests not), they can't change reality if someone is under genuine mind control with evidence. I am being controlled by something real. Just like someone being controlled by a family member, no substance can block that.
All these substances could do is stop communication with the system/whatever is controlling me. Which would be very dangerous . So i can't risk that. If i'm right, people will die because I took the 'substance' so it's absolutely not a risk I can take . I can't tell a dr because they will want to medicate and stop the communication. Whatever the cause I know it seems abnormal to others which means there's a risk dr will want to 'treat' it . I must crack the code and save others before it's too late. I can't if dr/meds stop me
 
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timetodie24

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Thank you everyone who made suggestions about what the message could mean. It is really helpful and much appreciated. I haven't worked it out yet but at least have ideas now . Going to map it all out on paper. Have carved the message on my skin too as a reminder so I see it everyday as need to be thinking about it a lot, running out of time
 
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mellie5

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Why is it dangerous to block control from the entity?

You wrote "But there are no entity blocking substances". How do you know? Are you a professor of chemistry? Do you have a degree in chemistry? Are you a molecular biologist?

Carving messages on your skin suggests self-harm.

You wrote "If i'm right, people will die because I took the 'substance' so it's absolutely not a risk I can take"

This means there is a possibility that you are wrong.

Try completing the sentence "if I am wrong..."

But OK no matter what evidence you are right, correct? if you are so sure, the doctor can't do anything. So talk to him.

Why can't I be the entity and I'm telling you to be truthful to a doctor but you don't follow me?

Unfortunately by internet there is not much than one can do if you don't want to see a doctor. You decided that no substance on earth can defeat the entity and you don't want people who know about chemistry and physics help you.

Is the entity all-powerful? surely someone on earth knows how deal with such entities. Try to see an expert. I hope someone notices your behaviour before it affects others. CTBing under these conditions is not a good idea and it will cause much grief and harm among others in your family.
 
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Why is it dangerous to block control from the entity?

You wrote "But there are no entity blocking substances". How do you know? Are you a professor of chemistry? Do you have a degree in chemistry? Are you a molecular biologist?

Carving messages on your skin suggests self-harm.

You wrote "If i'm right, people will die because I took the 'substance' so it's absolutely not a risk I can take"

This means there is a possibility that you are wrong.

Try completing the sentence "if I am wrong..."

But OK no matter what evidence you are right, correct? if you are so sure, the doctor can't do anything. So talk to him.

Why can't I be the entity and I'm telling you to be truthful to a doctor but you don't follow me?

Unfortunately by internet there is not much than one can do if you don't want to see a doctor. You decided that no substance on earth can defeat the entity and you don't want people who know about chemistry and physics help you.

Is the entity all-powerful? surely someone on earth knows how deal with such entities. Try to see an expert. I hope someone notices your behaviour before it affects others. CTBing under these conditions is not a good idea and it will cause much grief and harm among others in your family.
I don't want help to stop the control or anything. Was just venting and seeing if anyone had any interpretations of the message I hadn't considered.
I want to ctb regardless and have long before messages. I just need to crack this first to make sure I get it right. If I follow whatever the message wants, it will save my family not cause harm, i know that for certain.


I wish you well and hope you find peace in whatever way. We'll agree to disagree about this or will go around in circles forever and I didn't want this to turn into argument xx
 
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mellie5

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ok no argument np :-)

my interpretation of the message above as you saw above is ICD code F20:

-4*1=-4
4*6=24
4*0=0
=======
sum: 20

why do you reject my interpretation? the entity can be telling you "go to a doctor, exclude schizophrenia so the world knows I am controlling you"

and look, now I am just asking bcs I want to know better and understand, you seem to have interesting ideas:

why are you "certain" that the message will not cause harm?

if you are being controlled by an entity, how can you be sure that your desire to CTB is actually yours and not something that the entity is making you think?

ok, you said you had these thoughts before the messages, but maybe your inner self changed its mind and the thoughts are now not yours, but the result of the entity's control.

I think here most people are in favour of CTB as a rational decision, but if there is an entity controlling you, then you are not under free will. And nobody here (imho) thinks someone or something has the right to kill other people and the entity might be doing this to you.

And just to be clear: in no part of this message I am doubting you and I am just asking questions.

It might be interesting if we knew of other messages you have received. Are there any?
 
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" Not for one, for 6, for none" is a message I've been given but I can't decode it. My time is running out and I'm wondering if the 6 is to the with date 6/6 ? But it could also mean many other things.

I think the message has something to do with my suicide and/or others coming to harm. I know I have to ctb before I harm others but not sure what these numbers and messages mean. As it may mean I have to do it on certain date and in a certain way in order to save others.

I know I sound crazy but it's a genuine message and I will be grateful to them if that message does mean I'm closer to ctb .
This person needs medical help! And no help to commit suicide.
@timetodie24 please reach out to a professional. This sounds like psychosis and it could be schizophrenia. I had psychosis and I have experience with it. I had similar symptoms.
Tell your story to a doctor or therapist. They will know what to do.
You will feel way better after taking proper medication. You will feel way clearer in your mind.
In such a state one should not commit suicide. Please don't do anything dangerous.

The feeling of mind control is a very clear symptom of psychosis. There is medication that can help you. If you talk to a doctor he will be able to help you.
Please reach out to one.
 
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ok no argument np :-)

my interpretation of the message above as you saw above is ICD code F20: why do you reject my interpretation? the entity can be telling you "go to a doctor, exclude schizophrenia so the world knows I am controlling you"

and look, now I am just asking bcs I want to know better and understand, you seem to have interesting ideas:

why are you "certain" that the message will not cause harm?
It might be interesting if we knew of other messages you have received. Are there any?
Not rejecting it . I added your sums to my notes thank you and I am considering that 20 could be a code . But 20 could mean many things so ICD seems a bit of a stretch.

I agree, it does want to cause harm. Someone will die because of it, whether that's me or someone else.
I receive a lot of messages. They set rules I have to follow to protect people such as cutting myself off from friends, not making future plans, codes, self-harm, keeping secrets etc. They tell me what will happen if I don't do what they say. They warn family/friends will get ill, injured or die. It has worked as i broke rules, people got ill but were saved once I followed rules again. A distant relative died suddenly and unexpectedly after I broke a rule again after warnings. Those in control told me it was my fault as should've been me. They also put violent thoughts/images in my head, warning they'll make me harm people if I don't obey. They talk to me and taunt me inside my head. They know deep down i'm evil. We have the same goal, my death, they just want to restore order because I should be long gone. They want to correct the glitch.
This person needs medical help! And no help to commit suicide.
@timetodie24 please reach out to a professional.
Thanks for your concern but multiple users have already tried to diagnose me. Already explained enough why it is not psychosis .
 
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