Decapitation by train, about suction. Could the speed of the train affect the method and make it not work as intended?

[iwantitalltoend]

The idea is to lay with my neck on the train tracks before the train comes and the wheels should decapitate me leading to a very fast death. It's an intercity train and the speed is around 100 km/hour. If there's enough space for my head to fit under the train the method should work but what bothers me is suction, I'm not sure if the speed of the train could make the method not work as intended, if the speed could either push me away from the tracks or suck me in before the wheels hit my neck, which could lead to a much more painful and brutal death and it wouldn't be as fast as decapitation, also it would be horrible if I fail and survive from that. I don't think 100 km/hour is that fast, sure it's fast but there are other trains in the world that travel at even higher speeds than that, at a few hundred km/hour even. People killed themselves like this before by decapitation from train, so it's not a new method and it can work, but it depends on the type and speed of the train, some of them used freight trains which are slower than an intercity train. I'm not sure if the method would work or not, if an intercity train with that speed as I mentioned would work. Could suction and the speed of the train be a problem?

 

[iwantitalltoend]

Does anyone know about this?

 

[DTA]

I don't know about that per se, but I've been in some very bad car wrecks and motorsports accidents.
At least for me the injuries didn't even hurt immediately. When my leg exploded in an accident, I looked down and saw the muscles and bone, but felt no pain due to (I guess) shock. It took about 20-30 minutes for pain to kick in.
That being the case, if one were to die before the shock wore off, they may never feel a thing.
You have to remember too that trains have a LOT of mass, so even moving a relatively low speed they will still have a great impact.

 

[Romanticize]

no, if yoy lay with your full weight on tracks, the air alone will not move you enough. its not that strong even for speeds far beyond 100km/h. It can move your hand if you will stick it out but won't move your body or head.

That said, train method is still risky, because you dont know how you will act, last second hesitation, nervousness, muscle twitch or survival instinct can result in grevious injury and potentially make you suffer and bedridden till your natural death.

 

[DTA]

I don't know about the suction aspect - Romanticize seems to know more about that.
But even a slow-moving train wheel will still completely flatten a coin placed on the track, so imagine what that would do to one's neck... I imagine faster speed would be preferable for a cleaner 'cut', so to speak.
I'm just saying if suction IS a thing, and you somehow got your body struck, it may not be that bad pain-wise, especially if it's a fast train. I saw the scene of a wreck once where a semi-truck struck a cow on the interstate. The cow looked like if a watermelon was struck by a sledgehammer! It died instantly. A train has much more mass than a semi.
I definitely understand your apprehension, though. I think the horrible effects of a failed attempt are a very common fear.

 

[iwantitalltoend]

no, if yoy lay with your full weight on tracks, the air alone will not move you enough. its not that strong even for speeds far beyond 100km/h. It can move your hand if you will stick it out but won't move your body or head.

That said, train method is still risky, because you dont know how you will act, last second hesitation, nervousness, muscle twitch or survival instinct can result in grevious injury and potentially make you suffer and bedridden till your natural death.

How do you know the air won't move me enough? I'm just curious if you read about this and got informations about this from somewhere. Also I don't have to lay with my full weight on the tracks, I only have to lay on my stomach with my neck on the tracks so that the wheels of the train can hit my neck and decapitate me. If they decapitate me then it's a very fast death. The position is similar to how you lay on your stomach on a bed for example, and you also stay with one side of your head on the pillow, that's how you would have to stay with your neck on the tracks for there to be enough space for your head to fit under the train, but it also depends on the type of train. If I do this method then I won't hesitate or move because of survival instinct, so if there's enough space for my head to fit under the train and the speed of the train won't cause any problems then the method should work. I was worried if the speed might affect the method and move me even just a bit, then the wheels might not decapitate me but injure me

 

[DTA]

If you lay as you described, I think you'd be fine. It would take a lot of air pressure to significantly move an adult human. I doubt a train would generate that much suction.
If it did move you somewhat from that position, you're either going to have your head crushed (instant death) or be cut in two around the ribs (near-instant death). To move you further would require tornado-force winds, which I doubt a train's suction would generate.
Honestly, if you're concerned about the pain aspect of failure you'd be best off finding a different method.

 

[iwantitalltoend]

If you lay as you described, I think you'd be fine. It would take a lot of air pressure to significantly move an adult human. I doubt a train would generate that much suction.
If it did move you somewhat from that position, you're either going to have your head crushed (instant death) or be cut in two around the ribs (near-instant death). To move you further would require tornado-force winds, which I doubt a train's suction would generate.
Honestly, if you're concerned about the pain aspect of failure you'd be best off finding a different method.

I understand, I thought about this method because if it works then it's a very fast death, but I don't know for sure if it will work, I don't know what I'll do

 

[DTA]

To be honest I've considered going by train myself. If there were only some tracks relatively nearby... Considered jumping in front of a semi like that cow I mentioned too.
I'm pretty sure it would be a quick death.
A thing you may also want to consider is the train's conductor. It might be hard on that person knowing they killed someone. You have to decide for yourself if that guilt is something you're willing to inflict on someone. If you're not okay with that, perhaps it's better to find a different method?

 

[Romanticize]

How do you know the air won't move me enough? I'm just curious if you read about this and got informations about this from somewhere. Also I don't have to lay with my full weight on the tracks, I only have to lay on my stomach with my neck on the tracks so that the wheels of the train can hit my neck and decapitate me. If they decapitate me then it's a very fast death. The position is similar to how you lay on your stomach on a bed for example, and you also stay with one side of your head on the pillow, that's how you would have to stay with your neck on the tracks for there to be enough space for your head to fit under the train, but it also depends on the type of train. If I do this method then I won't hesitate or move because of survival instinct, so if there's enough space for my head to fit under the train and the speed of the train won't cause any problems then the method should work. I was worried if the speed might affect the method and move me even just a bit, then the wheels might not decapitate me but injure me

Because of raw physics. Even at 300 km/h, a train will not move a person lying on the tracks before crushing them. There is no physical mechanism — the wheels run directly on the rails with almost no clearance, and if any part of the body (like the neck or torso) is touching the rail, the contact is instant and fatal. Aerodynamic forces (air pressure, suction) near the rails are negligible — most air flows over the top of the train, not at rail level. Even using extreme drag force calculations (F = ½ × ρ × A × v²), a flat body might experience at most ~2000 N, which is not enough to move 70–80 kg lying flat. More importantly, at 300 km/h the train covers 1 meter in just 12 milliseconds — there's no time for any force to act before the wheel hits. Additionally, there are countless of videos on gore sites of people being hit by trains, and the force to push them aside isn't ever enough, even when its a fragile old lady.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be so sure about "there will not be SI" because you will lay in a certain orientation, like on a pillow. No man, believe me, lying on tracks when you hear the train coming, and feel the vibrations through rails is nowhere near comparable to lying on your bed.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Trains stop all the time for all kinds of reasons. Why bother with a moving train when you could just lay your neck on the track right in front of a wheel of a stopped train freight car and then just wait for the train to start moving again?