Death is the best option for me because of politics and lack of community

[Pcgamer1]

Right now in the silicon valley I feel like its so hard to find friends. And politically things are getting really bad for trans people. Republicans are proposing anti trans laws at the federal level already. We have 2 states that are proposing to limit trans healthcare and make it way less accessible for trans people. I right now have to switch to diy hormones because there is a severe estrogen shortage. We also have the housing crisis which is exploding everywhere and is only going to get worse. My lease ends at the end of september and I'm nervous to find a new housing situation. I do have the option to renew my existing lease, but I'm scared my rent could go up and I don't really like my neighborhood. Overall death is the best option for me, things in the usa are only downhill from here. If i die then I don't have to be alive to witness the worst things to come in america

 

[wetrus]

hey, just to make it clear, this is a honest question k? if you feel any negative emotions when reading this please let me know so I can apologize!

have you ever considered switching countries? i've never been to the states, but i assume healthcare specially, is awful all-around, mostly because of cost (I assume).

I don't know about your financial situation, but you'd be surprised how far 10-20k will get you in some cheap countries (you can live for 1.5-5 years depending on the country. Healthcare isn't that costly either.

(I live in Brazil incase you're curious)

 

[Pcgamer1]

I have but realistically it will take at least a couple of years to immigrate to europe. And by then it will probably be too late. Trans healthcare in europe unfortunately is worse because they do a ridiculous amount of gatekeeping for trans healthcare. I have heard that in germany though if your already on hormones its just a matter of finding a doctor and they will continue your prescription. Brazil though it way worse for trans people. I don't know of many 3rd world countries that are known for being good for trans people, and also even if I have 10-20k saved up, I still need to find work down in that country, and wages there will be way lower.

 

[Zegers]

Moving would be a good idea, I'm not in good health but I would do it because basically i see my money evaporating and i have to spend like 20-50€ per day to live in this shitty place (EU)

well, it's not a shitty place, just don't like it much.

 

[summers]

@Pcgamer1 so you live in CA, literally the most liberal state in the union, where the governor said the state would be always support reproductive and LGBT rights, and you think shit is so bad. Seriously, take a trip to Iran and let me know what you think then.

Remember how some states allow for recreational use of marijuana, even though federally recreational use of marijuana is illegal. Do you think anything would be different in CA if federally some anti-trans laws went into effect.

But I guess if shit is so hopeless for you, at least you're at peace with your decision.

 

[wetrus]

I have but realistically it will take at least a couple of years to immigrate to europe. And by then it will probably be too late. Trans healthcare in europe unfortunately is worse because they do a ridiculous amount of gatekeeping for trans healthcare. I have heard that in germany though if your already on hormones its just a matter of finding a doctor and they will continue your prescription. Brazil though it way worse for trans people. I don't know of many 3rd world countries that are known for being good for trans people, and also even if I have 10-20k saved up, I still need to find work down in that country, and wages there will be way lower.

Have any of those anti-trans laws been implemented? Wouldnt it be near impossible for them to become actual laws? Considering how far we've come on the past decade or so, with the whole LGBTQ community rising like it never has before in history.

I wish you the best of luck, please don't stop looking for alternatives if you really feel like moving.

May CTB be truly your last option, you sound like you haven't lost all hope yet.

Godspeed <3

 

[Pcgamer1]

@Pcgamer1 so you live in CA, literally the most liberal state in the union, where the governor said the state would be always support reproductive and LGBT rights, and you think shit is so bad. Seriously, take a trip to Iran and let me know what you think then.

Remember how some states allow for recreational use of marijuana, even though federally recreational use of marijuana is illegal. Do you think anything would be different in CA if federally some anti-trans laws went into effect.

But I guess if shit is so hopeless for you, at least you're at peace with your decision.

Yeah thats true, I just don't know how effective the state of california will be when we have a republican president that bans abortion at a national level and bans trans healthcare. The supreme court has already said they're going to go after gay marriage next after they overturned roe v wade. So if the GOP tried to ban trans healthcare on a national level or even just bans insurance from covering it, then the supreme court will likely allow the law to stand. I do know that blue states as of now are some of the best places to be trans especially if your high income. But its very questionable if it stays that way with republicans at the federal level or just with a fascist supreme court.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I have but realistically it will take at least a couple of years to immigrate to europe. And by then it will probably be too late. Trans healthcare in europe unfortunately is worse because they do a ridiculous amount of gatekeeping for trans healthcare. I have heard that in germany though if your already on hormones its just a matter of finding a doctor and they will continue your prescription. Brazil though it way worse for trans people. I don't know of many 3rd world countries that are known for being good for trans people, and also even if I have 10-20k saved up, I still need to find work down in that country, and wages there will be way lower.

My nephew, whom I never talk to (not because he's gay), moved to the UK right away after graduating with his bachelor's degree with his (then) partner, and now husband, to escape the persecution here in the US. They lived there for many years and got their advanced degrees there. Now, they live in Canada and are doing quite well. You live in California, one of the most liberal states. Any federal law they try and enact to take away trans rights is going to have no effect on you in California. California will just codify into state law whatever protections you need. You live in an expensive state, but things are high all over. If you don't like your neighbors, try and move. Be careful self-medicating until things get straightened out, which they will. You do have options. I know things seem bad, at least right now. Taking yourself out doesn't fix anything. The problems will still be there. You can always stick around and help with the fight. The win may not be immediate, but you're on the right side of history, and will end up prevailing in the long run. I know that's not right now, as in immediately, but things worth fighting for seldom are.

 

[summers]

Yeah thats true, I just don't know how effective the state of california will be when we have a republican president that bans abortion at a national level and bans trans healthcare. The supreme court has already said they're going to go after gay marriage next after they overturned roe v wade. So if the GOP tried to ban trans healthcare on a national level or even just bans insurance from covering it, then the supreme court will likely allow the law to stand. I do know that blue states as of now are some of the best places to be trans especially if your high income. But its very questionable if it stays that way with republicans at the federal level or just with a fascist supreme court.

First, unless your ftm, you have zero to worry about with abortion. Seriously, lgbt people need to stop worrying about that shit and focusing on their own problems. I'm bi, but because I have a vasectomy, idgaf about about abortion tbh. I also don't care about gay marriage. There were civil unions in most states long before gay marriage was federalized.

Honestly, you live in SV, which means you probably have a great job, make decent money. Probably can travel, have fun, and do what you want. Ride out the good times, and let the politics play out. You're not going to find a better country to live in than the us anywhere.

 

[Hurt]

Unfortunately we live in a world where politicians take advantage from us the people who work. I can't live in a world like this. I don't want to experience this existence anymore.

 

[JealousOfTheElderly]

For housing can you move to SF? I heard there are good laws with rent control. You'll also have a lot of trans and health support. Or Portland or Seattle?

 

[summers]

For housing can you move to SF? I heard there are good laws with rent control. You'll also have a lot of trans and health support. Or Portland or Seattle?

Those are some of the most expensive cities in the country to move to. For Washington state, both Tacoma and north of Seattle, like Everett are way cheaper. If you stay in CA, San Diego is definitely cheaper especially the suburbs about 30 miles west of the city along i8.

Also, no one who's lived in CA with perfect weather and palm trees wants to move to rainy and depressing Oregon or Washington.

 

[FuneralCry]

This world is just so cruel and horrible. I'm sorry that you are in this situation. I cannot imagine how hard it must be. I hope that in whatever you do, you find relief from your suffering.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Nobody's going to take away your rights in California…

 

[Pcgamer1]

For housing can you move to SF? I heard there are good laws with rent control. You'll also have a lot of trans and health support. Or Portland or Seattle?

Sf is hard because I'm not strong enough to handle the hills there, I also work in the silicon valley, so I would need a car and my car is a stick which is hard to drive in sf. It would also cost too much money to commute everyday. I would need to find a job in sf. The other issues is that there's the whole car break in crisis. For Portland, possibly if I can get a remote job. Oregon has statewide rent control and despite rent increases in Portland it's still somewhat affordable.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Try being in the Silicon Valley as the other side, or even as a moderate. It makes me want to kill myself all the time knowing that my inherent ideals are on the wrong side of history and that I'm objectively evil for them.

I think you don't have much to worry about with the GOP as long as you stay in California since even if something becomes federally banned, it will still be legal within California unless some kind of conservative surge happens in this state which if they can't even recall our shitty governor means they're as good as doomed anyway.

 

[tilsleepcomes]

What about a move to Canada? The bigots are fewer here and even our right wing is left by American standards. I wonder if it would be hard, like too much red tape.

 

[summers]

What about a move to Canada? The bigots are fewer here and even our right wing is left by American standards. I wonder if it would be hard, like too much red tape.

Sorry, where are the palm trees in Canada. Also, as bad as taxes are in CA, they are world worse in Canada. I was in Ottawa, and I think the sales tax was around 12-14% can't get more regressive than that.

 

[tilsleepcomes]

Sorry, where are the palm trees in Canada. Also, as bad as taxes are in CA, they are world worse in Canada. I was in Ottawa, and I think the sales tax was around 12-14% can't get more regressive than that.

Was specifically in response to concerns over losing their needed health care for trans people.

Not only do we not restrict that kind of stuff here, but you don't have to pay insurance or worry about preexisting conditions.

Bit of a trade with the higher taxes, but just a thought.

 

[summers]

Was specifically in response to concerns over losing their needed health care for trans people.

Not only do we not restrict that kind of stuff here, but you don't have to pay insurance or worry about preexisting conditions.

Bit of a trade with the higher taxes, but just a thought.

I have not heard one good thing about the Canadian healthcare system. A good friend and ss member had to get a root canal. It took so long, the tooth got reinfected twice. When free healthcare is such shit that you could die from a tooth infection because it takes 6 months to get a 30 minute procedure, you may as well pay less in taxes, and pay for your own healthcare.

Additionally, the cost of apartments/housing in most Canadian cities relative to income is way higher than the US. You're basically paying a much higher percentage of your income for housing than you would in the US.

Also, you may not think it's a thing because you're used to the shit weather, but that drastic of a climate change could very well cause depression. Like I said, when you're used to palm trees and warm weather all year, and you move somewhere gray, cold, wet, and dreary it may not be good for your mental health.

Also, the Canadian government is fascist as hell. Look at how they treated peaceful protesters during the trucker protests. Government officials threatened to ruin these people's lives and careers because they disagreed with a government mandate. They also completely stripped gun rights away from people without giving them a change to vote or have a say in it. Trudeau is really looking to emulate his idol Mussolini.

 

[HelloAllYouPeople]

Hey same boat. I sure love living like a good chunk of the world wants me dead for being trans. I guess they win though since I'll eventually hang myself anyway.

 

[befree]

hey, just to make it clear, this is a honest question k? if you feel any negative emotions when reading this please let me know so I can apologize!

have you ever considered switching countries? i've never been to the states, but i assume healthcare specially, is awful all-around, mostly because of cost (I assume).

I don't know about your financial situation, but you'd be surprised how far 10-20k will get you in some cheap countries (you can live for 1.5-5 years depending on the country. Healthcare isn't that costly either.

(I live in Brazil incase you're curious)

There are not many good countries left. The new world order is being established everywhere. Prices for everything are exploding. Human rights and freedom are being restricted more and more. You can't just immigrate to any country. There are rules for immigration in every country.

 

[Pcgamer1]

What about a move to Canada? The bigots are fewer here and even our right wing is left by American standards. I wonder if it would be hard, like too much red tape.

Canada is just the usa but with single payer healthcare and slightly less insane politics. They have a very severe cost of living crisis. In their cheapest area (Calgary), a studio costs like 1400, and then there's the fact that you still need a car up there further driving up the cost of living. They also have insane sales taxes as well and lower wages. Moving to an area with a similar cost of living or even higher and lower wages is a receipt for disaster.

There are not many good countries left. The new world order is being established everywhere. Prices for everything are exploding. Human rights and freedom are being restricted more and more. You can't just immigrate to any country. There are rules for immigration in every country.

Yeah immigration is very hard, it would take at the VERY least 3 years to move to Europe assuming everything goes well, and by then it will probably be too late.