Death by kidney infection

[ThriveOrDie]

I had a roommate who said she knew a lady who died of a kidney infection because she refused treatment and chose palliative care. She had been dealing with recurring UTI's for many years. I have also been dealing with this issue. The first time I got a UTI, I didn't know (lack of typical or obvious symptoms) until the infection was in my kidneys and I almost died. My ER doctor lectured me about how it could have killed me. I started taking a supplement to prevent future infections. Anyway, the second time I got a UTI I had forgotten to take my supplement for two days. I was amazed at how fast the infection got bad and I went to Urgent Care. So my ctb plan is to die by just stopping my supplement and wait until symptoms are bad enough to be accepted as an ER patient and then refuse treatment. It will be a horrible way to die but at least my family will be able to say goodbye and maybe not feel as guilty as if I had taken SN. Will my plan work? What details do I need to consider?

 

[motel rooms]

So my ctb plan is to die by just stopping my supplement and wait until symptoms are bad enough to be accepted as an ER patient and then refuse treatment. It will be a horrible way to die but at least my family will be able to say goodbye and maybe not feel as guilty as if I had taken SN. Will my plan work? What details do I need to consider?

You really think your family will be fine with you refusing treatment?

 

[ThriveOrDie]

You really think your family will be fine with you refusing treatment?

My family doesn't really give a shit about me. My mom only cares about spending money and going on trips. And I don't think it matters unless they can prove I am not mentally capable of making the decision. We put my dad on palliative care and watched him die at home from cancer. That was earlier this year which delayed my ctb plans. My mom's mom also refused dialysis and died. So far my family has been pro medical freedom.

 

[motel rooms]

My family doesn't really give a shit about me.

But you said this:

at least my family will be able to say goodbye and maybe not feel as guilty as if I had taken SN.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

But you said this:

They will feel guilty they were such a shitty family. They know. I've been very vocal recently about the trauma they caused and they continue to be borderline abusive. Also, my BF ctb 3 yrs ago. It has been hell and I will probably never get over it. I want to soften the blow as much as I can. even though they suck they don't deserve to go through that.

I had a roommate who said she knew a lady who died of a kidney infection because she refused treatment and chose palliative care. She had been dealing with recurring UTI's for many years. I have also been dealing with this issue. The first time I got a UTI, I didn't know (lack of typical or obvious symptoms) until the infection was in my kidneys and I almost died. My ER doctor lectured me about how it could have killed me. I started taking a supplement to prevent future infections. Anyway, the second time I got a UTI I had forgotten to take my supplement for two days. I was amazed at how fast the infection got bad and I went to Urgent Care. So my ctb plan is to die by just stopping my supplement and wait until symptoms are bad enough to be accepted as an ER patient and then refuse treatment. It will be a horrible way to die but at least my family will be able to say goodbye and maybe not feel as guilty as if I had taken SN. Will my plan work? What details do I need to consider?

When I had the infection in my kidneys I had horrible vomiting. When I had nothing else to vomit, I started vomiting bile and could not even hold down water. And the abdominal pain was the worst pain I've ever had. They gave me morphine and fentanyl at the hospital and I was still in pain. What can I do to take the edge off the pain before I go to the ER if I am not able to even hold down water? Anyone with medical background?

 

[UpandDownPrincess]

Wondering what country you are in. Most doctors and hospitals I've worked with would take this case to a judge rather than let someone pass from something so easily curable.

You have a better shot at sepsis killing you if the bladder infection is bad enough. That could happen in just a few days. Waiting for your kidneys to quit could take quite a bit longer.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

Wondering what country you are in. Most doctors and hospitals I've worked with would take this case to a judge rather than let someone pass from something so easily curable.

You have a better shot at sepsis killing you if the bladder infection is bad enough. That could happen in just a few days. Waiting for your kidneys to quit could take quite a bit longer.

I'm in the USA. I know someone who died this way but they were in a state that is not pro-life. IDK if there was any legal case involved. I'm in a pro-life state so it sounds like I might just have to die at home with no access to IV pain meds. All I care about is dying at this point.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

Does anyone have any experience taking medications via enema? Is that feasible to control pain and maybe hasten death or put me in a coma until I die? I have some hydrocodone, ambien and cyclobenzapine.

 

[Chiisai]

Isnt kidney infection painful?

 

[ThriveOrDie]

Isnt kidney infection painful?

Very. I just want to die and minimize trauma for family. We buried my dad 9 months ago.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

They will feel guilty they were such a shitty family. They know. I've been very vocal recently about the trauma they caused and they continue to be borderline abusive. Also, my BF ctb 3 yrs ago. It has been hell and I will probably never get over it. I want to soften the blow as much as I can. even though they suck they don't deserve to go through that.

Yeah that's relatable, those weren't mutually exclusive things, because abusive, neglectful families come in all shapes and sizes. Some of them will care & abuse in toxic ways. I'm pretty sure all of my family would visit me on my death-bed even though... :(
I suppose they'll have to come to my funeral instead.

OP, I'm staying away from forum but just want to say I'm really sad that you have to die in such a horrible way. I wish I knew all the answers. I hope you find peace.

Kidney infection is very painful.

 

[Dysgenic Pup]

That's how my mother died.

 

[seaweaves]

Re: legal stuff above: while it's obviously true that laws and practices differ place to place, forcing continued treatment on someone without explicit informed consent is pretty hard to do without good evidence undermining their competence, and many hospitals don't want to spend legal resources (time, people, money) to continue care in such cases given the USAs general approach to healthcare. There's a lot more nuance needed beyond my brief comment of course, (emergency care consent practices can differ especially, since you have plans to visit an ER), but just wanted to add this note that forced treatment continuance is relatively uncommon in the USA scheme of things, even if there are exceptions regularly happening

 

[Chiisai]

Very. I just want to die and minimize trauma for family. We buried my dad 9 months ago.

Hmmm... If that is where you find peace, so be it. I wish you well and the best outcome.

 

[cytokinestorm]

I'm considering this method as I know how to induce a kidney infection then it's just a case of refusing antibiotics. I have had a kidney infection before and it is painful, but not as painful as gallbladder or pancreatic pain.

Vomiting and nausea can be controlled with anti emetics and hopefully they'd give pain relief.

 

[Whole-Ad]

I tried this back in April. I got a UTI while waiting for my SN to arrive and just put up with the symptoms for about 3 weeks, unfortunately the UTI just cleared up itself without spreading to kidneys. Is there a way to make sure it doesn't clear up on its own? Looking back I don't know if I could go through it again, but you know, just in case. My SN then arrived and the police found it in my car and now I've been in a psych ward for 8 months. So this is a method that I could use. I don't really get UTIs, that was the first one I'd ever had.

EDIT:
Just to add I'm like 99% sure I got the UTI through not drinking enough water as I was so ready to die that I gave up eating and drinking.

 

[cytokinestorm]

I tried this back in April. I got a UTI while waiting for my SN to arrive and just put up with the symptoms for about 3 weeks, unfortunately the UTI just cleared up itself without spreading to kidneys. Is there a way to make sure it doesn't clear up on its own? Looking back I don't know if I could go through it again, but you know, just in case. My SN then arrived and the police found it in my car and now I've been in a psych ward for 8 months. So this is a method that I could use. I don't really get UTIs, that was the first one I'd ever had.

EDIT:
Just to add I'm like 99% sure I got the UTI through not drinking enough water as I was so ready to die that I gave up eating and drinking.

I'm prone to them anyway so all I have to do is drink fresh orange juice and that's it. I then drink an alkaline cystitis treatment and the infection goes up to the kidneys. I suspect I have permanent bladder colonisation though.

You can infect yourself with e coli easily enough.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

I tried this back in April. I got a UTI while waiting for my SN to arrive and just put up with the symptoms for about 3 weeks, unfortunately the UTI just cleared up itself without spreading to kidneys. Is there a way to make sure it doesn't clear up on its own? Looking back I don't know if I could go through it again, but you know, just in case. My SN then arrived and the police found it in my car and now I've been in a psych ward for 8 months. So this is a method that I could use. I don't really get UTIs, that was the first one I'd ever had.

EDIT:
Just to add I'm like 99% sure I got the UTI through not drinking enough water as I was so ready to die that I gave up eating and drinking.

IDK why my kidney infection advanced so quickly. I didn't have any symptoms of UTI until after the kidney infection had set in. I was just all of the sudden puking my guts out and couldn't hold down water. There was a time when I got really dehydrated from sweating to death marching in a wool band uniform in hot weather. All I had to drink after was soda and I had horrible kidney pain the next day. That was in high school and I had recurring bouts of that over the years. I suspect there was some kidney damage.

I'm prone to them anyway so all I have to do is drink fresh orange juice and that's it. I then drink an alkaline cystitis treatment and the infection goes up to the kidneys. I suspect I have permanent bladder colonisation though.

You can infect yourself with e coli easily enough.

I've heard it's an antibiotic resistant ecoli from chicken eggs that is causing most of the recurring UTI. I think my BF infected me. He had poor hygiene and ate a lot of eggs. I am a little OCD and had never had any issues with UTI until I started being intimate with him. He CTB three years ago and left me with the gift of having a way out...hopefully peacefully if I can get drugs at the hospital.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

For those of you who believe in God…is my ctb method considered suicide? I wouldn't say my dad committed suicide when he decided to stop cancer treatments and go on hospice. I wouldn't say my grandma committed suicide when she refused dialysis. How do you think God views it? It is inevitable that I will die this way as the supply chain continues to break down because I will not be able to get the supplements I need to prevent infection. I want to go before things break down so much and hospitals are so overwhelmed that I can't get drugs to make it more peaceful.

Also, does anyone have any experience with having their credit cards shut off? I'm wondering how long it will take before my cards get shut off. I won't be able to pay my bills this month and I am timing my ctb for after my cards get shut off.