Death by Hypothermia

[Lawliet]

Hi everyone. New member long time attempted. I had the idea to do helium death but it seems unreliable. Considering hypothermia. Taking a cold shower then going outside in the middle of the night. Problem is it will only be 44 degrees Fahrenheit. Should I wait for a colder night? I really want to die ASAP. I've read quite a lot about it but need feedback.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

hi, this will only have a chance of working with well below sub-zero temperatures.
not reliable even then, if someone sees you etc

 

[Lawliet]

hi, this will only have a chance of working with well below sub-zero temperatures.
not reliable even then, if someone sees you etc

Fuck. I appreciate it.

 

[Deleted member 94]

Fuck. I appreciate it.

I did an excerise once part of job club which former army personnel developed a test for survival it listed items salvaged after plane crash like , newspapers, knife, fire lighter, compass, map etc and asked for people to list which was important.

The question at hand was to stay put or try to make to nearest town.

I was the only one who asked for map and compass not letting on my real reasoning, the whether was cold and I was hoping to find a cave and die from the cold. Fully knowing I won't survive to nearest town not that I would be heading there, heading opposite way.

Nobody in the group wanted the map or compass besides me go figure.

 

[suicideisgood]

Actually if you jump into a lake/sea that's less than 15°C you'll eventually die of hypothermia

 

[nitroautnz]

Yes but it will be a very unpleasant death ! Helium is tempered with oxygen but not nitrogen maybe you can use this method instead

 

[Lawliet]

Actually if you jump into a lake/sea that's less than 15°C you'll eventually die of hypothermia

Unfortunately the closest body of water is a river and that seems sketchy.

Yes but it will be a very unpleasant death ! Helium is tempered with oxygen but not nitrogen maybe you can use this method instead

Unfortunately I no longer have access to the helium

 

[TAW122]

Yeah hypothermia is a crapshoot when it comes to the environment. I too, have entertained this method before, but it would be if in the rare event that I am unable to CTB with what I have that I resort to it. This is because it takes extremely cold temperatures (like well below freezing), no interruption or intervention from bystanders & samaritans, and also your physical health condition (whether you already have pre-existing conditions or completely healthy) and general health. In short, it's not really as reliable as it is not instant, you may end up fighting your SI (Survival Instinct), and there is risk of being "saved" or intervened against.

 

[Snowdrifts1212]

I'm glad you made this post, because I've thought about it too. I live somewhere that temperatures routinely get below -30 C over the winter, and it's quite easy to get to empty, peaceful outdoor places where the chances of someone finding me would be extremely low.

That said, to me, there are a lot of downsides with this as a CTB method.

One, even in extreme cold, it takes quite a long time to die of hypothermia on dry land -- we're talking potentially hours of gritting through a really unpleasant process. And because cold slows the metabolism so much, even people who initially appear quite dead can be revived with medical treatment after quite a long time of exposure, so your window to ensure you're not found has to be extremely long.

Two, if the attempt does fail (bystander intervention) but you've been exposed for a long time, there would be a risk of having such severe frostbite in your extremities or even your nose / face that you require amputations. So that kinda sucks in terms of potential negative impacts of a failed attempt -- waking up from a failed CTB without hands and feet wouldn't be pleasant.

Another risk would be that, unless you'd taken something to render yourself unconscious at the beginning, in the later stages of hypothermia people become quite disoriented and confused. They are not able to think rationally.

To me, this means two things: one, it might be a psychologically unpleasant experience, far moreso than some of the other methods. Two: this could mean that, despite wanting to CTB when you were in a rational state of mind, as the hypothermia progresses you might actually lose control of your actions and end up leaving your chosen area and running to a place where you might encounter a bystander who would intervene. The only way to avoid this would be to ensure that you were REALLY out in the middle of nowhere.

Thinking about it in my area, primarily the people who die of hypothermia (not to CTB) are people who are rendered unconscious outside due to intoxication of some kind. That's because otherwise they'd end up running around and showing signs of distress that would trigger intervention. So if you're seriously thinking about this, in my opinion it'd be worth thinking about combining it with something to render yourself unconscious at the beginning. But even then that seems like no guarantee and just overall not a great way to go.

A different thought: it would really, really suck, but if you do live in a very cold area and have access to extremely cold bodies of water, that would at least be a much faster process. Death in water temperatures around 0 C (freezing) generally happens within 15-20 minutes, and for some can happen more quickly due to cold water shock (which is different than hypothermia). If you didn't want to drown as you lose control of your limbs, you could wear a life vest at least to keep your head above water. Overall though, still seems an incredibly unpleasant method compared to other options.

 

[Ghost2211]

44 is not nearly cold enough. Wait till mid winter and go out in the snow in the woods if that's the desired plan. if you're found before you die you'll likely lose some of all fingers and toes.

 

[TheQ22]

It does NOT need to be below freezing at all.

 

[lonelygirl66]

This method is my chosen method. This should be easily achieved by way of booze and drugs. I hope to be unconscious by the time the cold hurts.

 

[TheQ22]

I'm also thinking of this as well. I am so fed up today I wish it was colder I'd be off.

 

[almost_dead]

Hi everyone. New member long time attempted. I had the idea to do helium death but it seems unreliable. Considering hypothermia. Taking a cold shower then going outside in the middle of the night. Problem is it will only be 44 degrees Fahrenheit. Should I wait for a colder night? I really want to die ASAP. I've read quite a lot about it but need feedback.

I have read somewhere that hypothermia is extremely painful upto a point , after which your body goes numb .

 

[grungeCat]

Well, it seems like pretty unpleasant death. Booze dilates the blood vessels near skin so body will lose its warmth quicker. Alcohol also lowers the feeling of cold, raises pain resistance and makes you less anxious so I think it comes in useful.

 

[Nelos]

I have read somewhere that hypothermia is extremely painful upto a point , after which your body goes numb .

It is extremely painful

 

[UpsidedownStar]

Hello. Hopefully someone can make use of this information I'm going to share.

1: Hypothermia can occur at any temperature below 60F in water, or 50F in the wind. Look up "water temperature hypothermia" to find more information on what to expect from different temperatures.

2: 44F, as mentioned in the OP, is technically enough for hypothermia to set in, though it will take around 1 to 3 hours to actually die from it, in the best circumstances. What matters at this rate is if you're in water/wet, and how much time you have on your hands.

3: A way to quicken the process of hypothermia while limiting discomfort at the same time is to get drunk. Alcohol is a vasodilator (it expands the blood vessels), which brings the blood from your vital organs closer to the surface of the skin, which in turn cools down faster. Some over-the-counter medications and even caffeine can achieve this affect, although to a lesser extent.

4: In my own experience, hypothermia is NOT VERY PAINFUL. The worst thing about it, in my multiple experiences over the past few Winters, is the wind blowing away any warmth I have, on top of resisting the urge to go back inside.

5: You WILL experience discomfort, and even a burning sensation depending on how far you are into the hypothermic process, but most of the pain will be mental. The discomfort ranges from mild to severe and stems from, well, being outside in the cold water and wind. It's not fun, but it's not impossible, either. The burning sensation is from your body getting too tired to continue vasoconstriction (tightening of the blood vessels to keep vital organs warm), and the gradual rush of blood to your extremities is a bit shocking and almost comforting.

6: You will eventually go numb during the process, starting from your extremities (fingers, face, toes) to your limbs and chest. You'll take more shallow breaths as your body and brain cool down.

7: Extreme coldness is not a requirement for hypothermia. Some may take the term "freezing to death" literally, in that you get frostbite - which occurs below the freezing point, is PAINFUL, as your skin and tissue begins to die. If you want to go this route, that's up to you. It doesn't usually get that cold over here where I'm at.

8: If you want to maximize your chances to CTB, you'll want to at LEAST be in a body of water for as long as you can handle. When you think you can't handle it anymore, you can get out of the water (don't dry off) and let the wind chill + loss of heat from the environment do the rest for you.

 

[TheQ22]

My thought on catching the bus initially (for looking like accidental purposes, for insurance purposes) were 1) CO in a tent - i.e look ike an idiot who was cold and took BBQ in tent for heat.

2) Obviously do it when it's really cold - then if CO doesn't get you, hypo will.

You wouldn't know since you'd be out from CO and the cold would do the rest.

Both are supposed to be peaceful and painless. I.e perfect.

Cold water reduces the time significantly, even being wet can have a dramatic effect.

But neither are 100% effective, nor are any methods.
PS - it's better when it isn't freezing (allegedly) since your extremeties don't freeze and so you don't get frost bite and need to have bits chopped off - should you survive.

So above zero but not too warm or cold is the perfect temperature.

Unless you dont care