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Intheo

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Jul 1, 2020
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Hi SS, it's been awhile. For the past several months I've been going through my worst crisis ever. I am constantly unsure if I'll make it to next year. I spend a good portion of my days absolutely wrecked with misery and my head constantly spins with questions about my existence, which I know isn't special here so I know you'd understand. I'm somebody who needs to move and do something or my thoughts will drown me, so I've been doing a lot, which on paper makes me sound like someone on their road to recovery. I distract myself with outdoor activities like hiking, surfing, road trips, and I'm meeting friends quite often. I'm pretty social, I drink and smoke socially quite often and in the process I made several new friends and met some women too.

So I met a girl who for the longest time I was sure had friendzoned me. I was very attracted to her but I didn't make any attempts to pursue her because I didn't want to be just be another guy who sees her as an object of conquest rather than a human being. I also didn't want to poison yet another person like I have before. She's also going through her own journey with depression (although probably not as severe as mine) so I thought what she really needs is a friend. We hung out a lot, talked a lot, and over time my feelings for her grew. I felt guilty for it because I felt like it would betray the friendship and at the same time I felt turmoil over not being honest. I thought about telling her that I got a job overseas and telling her how I feel before I "leave." In reality I would cbt.

One drunken night with her friends and my friends, I found out through her friend that she actually has had liked me for months. She the same through my drunk friends. We talked about it. I told her I liked her a lot but was afraid of getting into anything serious, and she concluded we could just see where this goes. We ended up spending the night together at her place. We spent the morning lying in bed in each other's arms. I couldn't believe it. That moment was one of the happiest ones I've had since this pandemic started, if not the happiest.

This may seem like a happy story but I've been stricken by anxiety and insecurity since that happy morning. I think I'm more emotionally involved and available than she is. Since we never clearly defined our relationship, I don't know what we are or if she is meeting other people or if I should be meeting other people. and I also find it silly at my age and experience that I am still going through this kind of emotional turmoil over a girl. Perhaps I haven't learned anything or grew. I've been distracting myself from myself with activities and a social life, but I guess I saw her as an even better distraction. I've been in a vulnerable state so maybe this wasn't the best time to get emotionally involved with someone. I don't even know why she even likes me beyond a platonic friendship. She's tall and beautiful and there are probably plenty of "better" guys she could get.

My insecurities gnaw at me. Perhaps I don't please her sexually. Maybe she doesn't like the choice of food I suggest. Maybe I'm too available and that puts her off. Or maybe because I said I don't want to get into anything she doesn't want to get too close to protect herself. We could openly talk about all of this but but I'm also afraid that will too much for her like I'm making a big deal out of what she considers to be trivial. I'm too afraid to be open, and I'm afraid of the fact that I'm afraid. My footing in this "relationship" feels just as uneasy as when I thought I was friendzoned.

It feels silly that I am this concerned over this as well considering I am also constantly mulling over ending my life. It's good that she is keeping her distance because the last thing I would want is to hurt her if she gets too attached to me and she finds out what I really am: a black hole.
I think this is sort of a defense mechanism of the ego. It may be desperately clutching at anything to give me a reason to stay alive. Perhaps that's why emotions for her are so strong. I I had relationships where I also invested myself emotionally too much too quickly and perhaps burdened my partners to make me happy. Not a foundation for a healthy relationship.

I wish I could be only focus on the moments; appreciate the moments I have with her when I'm with her and let go when it's time to go. I have given up on being happy so it's all I can get.
 
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antigone_iris

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For the past several months I've been going through my worst crisis ever. I am constantly unsure if I'll make it to next year. I spend a good portion of my days absolutely wrecked with misery and my head constantly spins with questions about my existence
Hey! I feel you. I'm in the same situation, so I can understand where you're coming from. You're a brave person for writing your feelings here and opening up. I'm not qualified to give advice, but I'll make a few comments on what you wrote, from a different perspective, if you don't mind.
So I met a girl who for the longest time I was sure had friendzoned me. I was very attracted to her but I didn't make any attempts to pursue her because I didn't want to be just be another guy who sees her as an object of conquest rather than a human being. I also didn't want to poison yet another person like I have before. She's also going through her own journey with depression (although probably not as severe as mine) so I thought what she really needs is a friend. We hung out a lot, talked a lot, and over time my feelings for her grew. I felt guilty for it because I felt like it would betray the friendship and at the same time I felt turmoil over not being honest.
I believe honesty is one of the pillars of a successful relationship. If she's also depressed, maybe you would understand and be there for each other, which I think is great. Mutual support and understanding are essential.
We talked about it. I told her I liked her a lot but was afraid of getting into anything serious, and she concluded we could just see where this goes.
That is fantastic! I'm happy you gave it a try.
I've been in a vulnerable state so maybe this wasn't the best time to get emotionally involved with someone. I don't even know why she even likes me beyond a platonic friendship. She's tall and beautiful and there are probably plenty of "better" guys she could get.

My insecurities gnaw at me.
It's OK to be vulnerable. It's part of being human. If you know you can trust her, I see no reason for not being emotionally open. If you two overcome obstacles together from the beginning, there are high chances your bond will be a strong one. Apparently, from what you wrote, she seems to be into you. I can see that insecurity might cause some trouble, so, personally, I'd work on that a little. The fact that she likes you back is a great sign. Please give yourself a chance, she gave you one, and now it's your turn to see how amazing you are.
We could openly talk about all of this
Yes, please do. Effective communication is very important. You also mentioned that the status of your relationship is undefined. If it's important for you to define your relationship, I think you have to talk openly about it and see if you two are on the same page.
It feels silly that I am this concerned over this as well considering I am also constantly mulling over ending my life. It's good that she is keeping her distance because the last thing I would want is to hurt her if she gets too attached to me and she finds out what I really am: a black hole.
I think this is sort of a defense mechanism of the ego.
It's not silly. Your feelings are valid. Fear is actually the big monster here and ego likes using it. Self-sabotage is another monster that might be standing in your way to happiness, and so is insecurity. I'm not an expert, but I can tell you from my own experience. To conclude, I suggest you give yourself and this relationship a chance. You are valuable, you are loved. Sending hugs :hug: :hug::heart:
 
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LittleJem

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Jul 3, 2019
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Hi, I bet she is feeling the same. Please remember she has liked you and grown close to you for months.
I hope you have already sent her a message to tell her you had a great time and something about seeing her again? As a woman, most of us like a text or a call after we've gone to bed with someone. I do understand how you feel, but try not to let it get in the way of you liking her and her liking you.
Ps it took me so long to realise my boyfriend likes me! But it helped that he told me
 
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Nov 17, 2020
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I would just do everything to not leave a single regret in my life knowing that I can leave when I want to tbh it may be uncomfortable in the moment but one moment of discomfort for the sake of being free of regret is better than the weight of regret and having to numb and suppress it. So I'd say go deep and ask yourself what you truly want to see happen, what you truly wouldn't regret doing regardless of the outcome and do your best to fulfill that then if for some reason it just can't work then....yeah you decide what you do then

Who knows maybe she wants to live with you and if that's not an option then to go to paradise with you but is just too afraid to seem clingy or weird or desperate or that you'd freak out .....
Just consider all possibilities no matter how out-there they are then make your decisions so as to not have anymore regrets

Anyway, good luck
 
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Intheo

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Jul 1, 2020
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Thanks guys for the support.
I've been having anxiety over the fact she isn't as emotionally nor physically available as I am. It's clear I like her more than she likes me and this is pretty evident by the fact she doesn't make that much time to meet me. Although when she is with me, she clearly seems to like me and I am quite happy, it feels like after that fateful night, nothing has changed. I didn't know where we were going but so far it hasn't gone anywhere. I needed to know we were so I decided to talk to her about it. Because maybe she didn't want anything more.

We had a good talk and I told her how much I like her. I'm not interested in meeting other people and would just like to spend more time with her. She likes me, but needs a lot of time. Like a lot more time to be able to open up. She even said she would be fine with me meeting other women but she herself isn't. I left the conversation feeling better about things but we still barely meet. I'm talking a few hours last week and literally one hour this week. Not enough time to have sex, dance, watch a movie, or cook together, much less go on a trip or something. We just talk a bit, make out a bit, and part. I wish I could be more okay with this but I do feel frustrated. I'm glad she's not clingy and possessive, but this is on the extreme opposite end.

I think I staked too much on this relationship and I expected a bit too much. I understand that she has her own path to walk. I still have rather strong feelings for her but I think I should let go a bit. I'll just focus on being the moment during the few moments I get with her.
 
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Intheo

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Jul 1, 2020
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If anybody is reading this, I would like some advice.
I think I need to honestly admit that I am hopelessly in love with this girl and that it has been causing a lot of anxiety and stress. She obviously doesn't feel the same way about me based on her behavior. She doesn't contact me much and barely makes time to meet me. We even talked about the issue (twice now) and she told me she just isn't in the right head space and she just doesn't feel like going out or meeting me a lot. But she doesn't have any ill feelings towards me and feels sorry that she isn't more available, meaning she is aware of the situation as well. You can say that she has her own issues and life, which is true, but I also think if you really like someone, you will make some effort. I feel like I've made almost all the effort in this barely a relationship.

I've been trying and trying. Waiting and waiting. Hoping slowly she'll like me more. But I'm getting tired. I'm stressed and anxious. I sometimes stay up nights thinking about it. Why isn't she meeting me more? Is she meeting someone else? Am I just a little side-project to everything else in her life? Am I so unimportant that she'll spend at most 3 hours a week with me but then stay up nights watching tv shows? Am I just a placeholder for when she finds someone better? I have lost a lot of sleep with these thoughts pounding my brain.

I never been in this situation before. I never had a girl sort of like me enough to meet me and do couple stuff sometimes, but be very unavailable otherwise. The thing is when she is with me, I do feel she likes me and she is affectionate and open, but I can also feel that she is pulling back a bit compared to me. She is much more reserved, either because of personality or she doesn't feel entirely comfortable with me. In comparison, I like to spill my soul and be vulnerable. This only makes it harder to quit her. It would be easier if she just didn't like me at all. She reels me in just enough to keep me hooked, whether she intends to or not.

What should I do?

I am wondering if I should just quit her completely. I have a couple ideas:
1. I think I should just quit her. Keep my distance from her and don't contact her, and since she doesn't seem to really contact me unless I contact her, I probably won't hear from her. Part of me thinks she wants this to happen because she doesn't have the stomach to cut it off herself. The hardest part of this is me feeling not so fucking terrible during the process. I'll just have to sit with the misery somehow.

2. I'm the kind of person who has to pour my heart out. Maybe I'll meet her again to tell her how I really feel. Tell her the truth that I'm in love with her and let the chips fall where they may. She will likely not reciprocate, so I will just leave it at that and have to slowly get over her and. Maybe meet other people if I even can. At this point I've done everything I could. If she wants to progress with me, she will have to make an effort but until then (or not at all), I will have to move on.

3. If I could flip a switch in my head and instantly change my perception that would be great. To see this for what it is and accept it. A sort of friends with benefits without so many benefits. Maybe I could just try not to care so much. Maybe I should adopt this attitude of : I'll meet her when I meet her, and in the meantime I will just live my own life and open myself up to meeting other women.
 
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Jul 15, 2020
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I am wondering if I should just quit her completely. I have a couple ideas:
1. I think I should just quit her. Keep my distance from her and don't contact her, and since she doesn't seem to really contact me unless I contact her, I probably won't hear from her. Part of me thinks she wants this to happen because she doesn't have the stomach to cut it off herself. The hardest part of this is me feeling not so fucking terrible during the process. I'll just have to sit with the misery somehow.

2. I'm the kind of person who has to pour my heart out. Maybe I'll meet her again to tell her how I really feel. Tell her the truth that I'm in love with her and let the chips fall where they may. She will likely not reciprocate, so I will just leave it at that and have to slowly get over her and. Maybe meet other people if I even can. At this point I've done everything I could. If she wants to progress with me, she will have to make an effort but until then (or not at all), I will have to move on.

3. If I could flip a switch in my head and instantly change my perception that would be great. To see this for what it is and accept it. A sort of friends with benefits without so many benefits. Maybe I could just try not to care so much. Maybe I should adopt this attitude of : I'll meet her when I meet her, and in the meantime I will just live my own life and open myself up to meeting other women.

I am in the same dilemma as you.
I unkindly quit the guy I was seeing because my I felt my depression and bi-polar wouldn't allow for something good to happen self-sabatoging myself. I thought maybe we could be friends with benefits but my investment in him was more than his in me so I felt it would be unbalanced. He was kind but I couldn't tell if he was using me because I am in a vulnerable position after my last mania/hospital stay and instability.

I wish I didn't fuck it up with him because I miss him. i don't expect marriage or happily ever afters but i was hoping for some companionship and intimacy. I miss his friendship more than anything.

I hope he calls or texts me after he's forgiven me for being so bipolar but I doubt it will happen.
 
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