Method Cylinder and bag.

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

If I opened a cylinder of nitrogen into a large plastic bag could I eliminate the need of a mask and just breath it in that way and die?

 

[Geesuicide]

I am also interested to know this and also how many litres should the bottle be. plus do I need a flowmeter or other fancy equipment?

 

[Geesuicide]

I am trying to randomly research but it is really difficult and confusing plus I don't have much time and I don't have much money, since all the money I had it was stolen by the fucker of my husband so I cannot I invest too much

 

[crova]

Please read Chapter 5 first:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-2NX0jVOjCrOJycMsy3KLXHMSGL3MSnV
Almost everything I needed was there.
the reason I came to this forum was to discuss technical details;

There are two or three threads these details are discussed very recently.

 

[Geesuicide]

Please read Chapter 5 first:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-2NX0jVOjCrOJycMsy3KLXHMSGL3MSnV
Almost everything I needed was there.
the reason I came to this forum was to discuss technical details;

There are two or three threads these details are discussed very recently.

thanks, that helps a lot!

 

[crova]

There is few of us here who research this method. It seems very peaceful but extremely quick - losing conscience comes in the blink of an eye. So there virtually is no time to make any corrections like: gas flow [slower/faster]how tight your bag sits on your neck, how you seat, is the bag
tight enough on your neck preventing air coming in - this is crucial in my opinion.

Mistake wit getting air into your exit bag results with brain damage. NO EXIT.
So every seemingly easy step must be well planned and executed. I know I'm too much paranoid about it. I just cant afford failure.

 

[Geesuicide]

There is few of us here who research this method. It seems very peaceful but extremely quick - losing conscience comes in the blink of an eye. So there virtually is no time to make any corrections like: gas flow [slower/faster]how tight your bag sits on your neck, how you seat, is the bag
tight enough on your neck preventing air coming in - this is crucial in my opinion.

Mistake wit getting air into your exit bag results with brain damage. NO EXIT.
So every seemingly easy step must be well planned and executed. I know I'm too much paranoid about it. I just cant afford failure.

After reading the chapter 5 I Found out What quantity nitrogen is suggested and it is a can of about 400 litres which cost about $800. I can only afford a 5 liter can c which will probably be enough for a brain damage

 

[crova]

8l nitrogen can cost £130 on Ebay [if you live in Europe]
Its 1,6.m3 of gas [1600l] more than enough.

 

[popo]

Ever looked at charcoal-burning suicide as a method? Pretty sure it works the same way as an exit bag but significantly cheaper which is likely my way of ctb-ing soon.

 

[Geesuicide]

8l nitrogen can cost £130 on Ebay [if you live in Europe]
Its 1,6.m3 of gas [1600l] more than enough.

really you think it's enough? wonder why the book suggest that much

 

[crova]

Book suggests 400l correct me if I remember wrongly.
Mine is 1600l.
With gas flow at 15lpm I have at least 1.5 hour of gas. I call it more than enough.

 

[crova]

Ever looked at charcoal-burning suicide as a method? Pretty sure it works the same way as an exit bag but significantly cheaper which is likely my way of ctb-ing soon.

Burning coal in an apartment? Messy. And smell will inevitably bring a lot of attention/action of my neighbors and landlord.
But it may work for some, depends on your circumstances.

 

[TheCrow]

There is few of us here who research this method. It seems very peaceful but extremely quick - losing conscience comes in the blink of an eye. So there virtually is no time to make any corrections like: gas flow [slower/faster]how tight your bag sits on your neck, how you seat, is the bag
tight enough on your neck preventing air coming in - this is crucial in my opinion.

Mistake wit getting air into your exit bag results with brain damage. NO EXIT.
So every seemingly easy step must be well planned and executed. I know I'm too much paranoid about it. I just cant afford failure.

We leave room for a *tiny* amount of air flow along the bottom, right?

 

[crova]

This is my major issue with exit bag - I haven't fully comprehend it yet!
No air should be allowed at all. No *tiny* amount. I will try to explain why.

With efficient flow of gas the bag is over pressured so the air cant get in.
Lower value could be too low to prevent air to be sucked in and cause CO2 reflex and ultimately failure.
You are unconscious after 10 second [roughly] but presence of O2 in your bag prevents quick death, but brain damage might already occurred.
Your gas tank will soon be depleted, but you are still alive.
Thats why PPE insist on having flow meter; they established 15lpm is sufficient enough.


Anyone with more knowledge in physics please correct me if Im wrong with the concept of over-pressure please.

 

[Geesuicide]

Book suggests 400l correct me if I remember wrongly.
Mine is 1600l.
With gas flow at 15lpm I have at least 1.5 hour of gas. I call it more than enough.

yes, you are correct. I was talking about what I could buy and doesn't seem to be enough in my case...

 

[Limbo]

really you think it's enough? wonder why the book suggest that much

Youre getting confused, it confused me at first too. A lot of tanks are labeled by litres, but what they mean is water capacity. It translates to a lot more litres in terms of gas.

 

[crova]

gas is compressed in the tank

 

[TheCrow]

This is my major issue with exit bag - I haven't fully comprehend it yet!
No air should be allowed at all. No *tiny* amount. I will try to explain why.

With efficient flow of gas the bag is over pressured so the air cant get in.
Lower value could be too low to prevent air to be sucked in and cause CO2 reflex and ultimately failure.
You are unconscious after 10 second [roughly] but presence of O2 in your bag prevents quick death, but brain damage might already occurred.
Your gas tank will soon be depleted, but you are still alive.
Thats why PPE insist on having flow meter; they established 15lpm is sufficient enough.


Anyone with more knowledge in physics please correct me if Im wrong with the concept of over-pressure please.

That makes sense, everything you said correlates with everything I've read. I think this is the part that throws me off:

 

[Geesuicide]

Burning coal in an apartment? Messy. And smell will inevitably bring a lot of attention/action of my neighbors and landlord.
But it may work for some, depends on your circumstances.

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We leave room for a *tiny* amount of air flow along the bottom, right?

Youre getting confused, it confused me at first too. A lot of tanks are labeled by litres, but what they mean is water capacity. It translates to a lot more litres in terms of gas.

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Youre getting confused, it confused me at first too. A lot of tanks are labeled by litres, but what they mean is water capacity. It translates to a lot more litres in terms of gas.

yes.you are very well right I'm getting confused I have Always had issues with physics measurements and so on. all I need to know is wether my 5 litre bottle is going to be enough or not . I might I be able to get 10 litre or 14 litre but is it enough?
thanks