Discussion Ctb young

[fkyou]

There's truly strength in in ctb young..teens to 23 olds.. people say young people don't know what they want wait till you grow up..but the more I grow up the harder it becomes the more I lose my self.my vision.i lose human standards for myself.and the limit i accept for what my life would be. I'm facing big problems I'd never accept as a healthy happy teenager young adult..but now you convince me that I have to live with them?... it's so easy emotionally to ctb (comparing to being older) when you are young and healthy with a strong clear mind.nobody can gaslight you to tolerate a shitty life..but that's all these adults been doing to me .I know they do it to calm me and save me from a mental breakdown but it downplayed real important problems for me and left me confused only to grow up and realize I was right in my worry..my gut was right and it's common Sense..but I'm nothing I've been as a teen.. these adult problems broke me mentally.

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

I'm also privy to this more pro-mortalist view...

And I declared that the dead,
who had already died,
are happier than the living,
who are still alive.
But better than both
is the one who has never been born,
who has not seen the evil
that is done under the sun.
- Ecclesiastes 4:2

 

[darkshadownice]

people say young people don't know what they want wait till you grow up

I especially hate that shit. Some people don't know what they want to be because they never asked TO BE here.

I agree with your post about ctb early on in life. Some people quickly realise life is miserable and pointless bullshit and check out early so they don't have to deal with all the baggage later down the line. At least compared to me who bought into the "life gets le better the older you get" spiel, which I only found out far too late that adults say it to cope with their own life, even if it is said with intent or is subconsciously said.

.I know they do it to calm me and save me from a mental breakdown but it downplayed real important problems for me and left me confused only to grow up and realize I was right in my worry..my gut was right and it's common Sense..but I'm nothing I've been as a teen.. these adult problems broke me mentally.

100% agree. I hit 25 last month and pretty much wanted to cry in my bed all night. My thoughts only rang "so this is what life is going to be like for the next 50 or so years? Paying bills, going to college to go to a job that I most likely will fucking hate, dealing with endless responsibilities, and zoning out when I'm by myself." I mean I see old people in their seniority still living life and I can only think "you have to have an iron will like no other, completely crushed by the weights and sufferings of life, or are beyond delusional to enjoy it." Although maybe I'm probably projecting my own feelings on others, as people are good with hiding their feelings and most people don't have their shit together. Other than that, I sure as hell can't understand the point of going on when clearly life itself has no intrinsic value or meaning behind it, we exist because...we exist, and that's it.

 

[fkyou]

I hit 25 last month and pretty much wanted to cry in my bed all night. My thoughts only rang "so this is what life is going to be like for the next 50 or so years? Paying bills, going to college to go to a job that I most likely will fucking hate, dealing with endless responsibilities, and zoning out when I'm by myself

Right!..im also hitting 25 next month..my feelings and thaughts is what's killing and eating me inside.. I can't live while I hate my life and how it went

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

no one can convince me there is an objective reason for why i have to live another minute in this hell. or to want to live another minute or to want to do anything at all. because there is no objective reason. nothing matters. life is meaningless suffering and extreme torture.

what will matter in 130 years ? in 1000 years ? in 10,000 years ? what will matter in a trillion years? nothing

extreme torture outweighs the garbage pleasurable meaningless addictions. the objective things are extreme suffering and extreme pain is bad and so must be avoided .

any fucker that says i can't kill myself asap , that fucker should have to do all my work , crap chores, to do lists, fix my problems. start with groceries , cleaning the whole damn place, take out trash in the cold 2 blocks in a large apartment complex, clean the toilet , every fucking day. i have to work 15 hours per day working a job and chores to do lists for no objective reason. i don't want to do anything . why ? why ? why ? there is no reason. I wouldn't want to be in this evil world if i were a healthy young billinaire ., i hate this evil imposition . i hate being a small animal. fuck everything

 

[FuneralCry]

I'd certainly personally prefer to cease existing sooner to escape from futile, unnecessary suffering but more than anything I wish I was never forced into this existence at all, I see existence as the most torturous, undesirable imposition that just causes endless amounts of cruelty and suffering, existence just feels like a mistake to me and I never would have chosen any of this. I'd never wish to be conscious in this existence at all under any circumstance, non-existence is always preferable for me than being burdened with this existence just waiting to die anyway, personally I see nothing desirable about prolonging suffering just to risk ending up in a situation of way worse torture.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I agree. I personally support the pro mortalist view that an earlier death is better than a later death for me. The earlier I die, the less I would suffer for in existence. If I died at 10 instead of at 20 or 40, me dying at 10 would be the better choice. Also, ugh, the whole argument of "you shouldn't ctb because you don't know what you want in life yet" is super annoying and I even see people here say this a lot.

I have never seen people here acknowledge at how not knowing what you want is irrelevant if you were to ctb as dead people do not have any desires for anything. Lets say that an 18 year old were to somehow magically find what they love in it at age 22. If they died before age 22, that isn't a bad thing because they no longer have a future to care about. It's only the living who can attest that them dying before 22 is bad but the person who is dead cannot attest that them dying at 22 is bad. It baffles me at how people fail to understand this simple logic. Of course ctb should be a personal choice so if that 18 year old wants to live, fair enough to them but I haven't yet received any valid counter arguments as for why them dying earlier is bad or why they should have to live any longer than they want to