CTB over the feelings of injustice in general?

[Beeko]

I have struggled with thoughts of CTB for awhile but noticed they tend to get way worse after something terrible happens either in the world or someone does something terrible. (The person usually doesn't even know I exist).


I have decided that the main factor of this is due to a strong sense of justice and that for some reason I cannot stand to live in the same existence as the person who did the terrible act.


I'm just curious as if someone feels the same as me or if I'm just trying to find a valid excuse to CTB?

 

[Georg]

I would say that going ctb just bc of all the shit that happens in this world is not a legit reason. Personal issues should be the only reasons to ctb, but thats just my opinion.

 

[Rational man]

The utopianism you describe is understandable and to a degree i have similar feelings. Tragically people will continue to starve and die needlessly due to corruption, incompetence, wars, etc. There's little we can do apart from look after our own. Even justice is corrupt at times.

I simply accepted dystopia and this helped me.

I wish you wellness.

 

[TAW122]

I can relate to this, I felt injustice for the majority of my life, just being with people, seeing others go through what I believe to be injustice and unjust treatment. I too, have been on the receiving end of injustice as well as being dismissed and gaslit over "it's all in your head" or "just your perception" and other similar dismissive, invalidating lines. Basically, anytime I try to raise attention to a slight or injustice, I'm either told that it isn't an injustice, I've lead a privileged life (far from the truth!), and/or I just read wrong (which is a lie).

To answer your question, any reason (or lack thereof) is valid for CTB and CTB is a personal decision for the individual and no one else because no one else lives in the shoes of another individual.

 

[Unsure and Useless]

While it's not a main factor behind my desire to CTB, knowing there's injustice in the world that will never be fixed is a reason behind it.

Personally, I think it's because it emphasizes how miserable life is. Not only is the world slowly dying due to pollution, but there are also people in power committing unjust acts yet never being punished for it. Superficiality is what matters the most as people harass others for not living up to unrealistic expectations. More and more of our time is being commodified by big corporations who don't care about us.

For some people who don't want to live in that life, it's only a matter of time until they start leaning towards CTB.

 

[FuneralCry]

Your feelings are very much valid and the fact that I despise this hellish world is certainly a reason as to why I wish for peaceful non existence so much. I hate the undeniable cruel nature of existence and how this world is filled with unnecessary suffering, the existence of life certainly is a tragedy with all of the unfairness.
Being aware of all the torment being experienced here does make me wish to die even more, and anyway suicide could never reason, it's an individual's decision when to leave. Life in itself is enough to justify suicide for me, and it's certainly true that both life itself and humans are the problem.

 

[Sovereign]

I completely understand the feelings you feel. The fact that the powerlessness of seeing the horrible nature of society and the world causes you to feel like the only thing to do to allow for peace is CTB is very understandable. The fact you feel this way is valid, and I've struggled with feelings of everything being out of control. It's thee worst. I hope you find some peace outside of suicide, but nevertheless, I hope your future will find you well, in life or in death.

 

[BlackWednesday]

I think being upset at the cruelty and suffering in the world is as valid a reason as any. There's many things wrong in the world that I am completely powerless to change. If I can't have a positive impact on the world why should stick around?

 

[thebusislatetonight]

I have felt the way that OP does for all of my life. The injustice, cruelty, and suffering in the world is one of my main reasons to ctb. The fact that people can be downright horrendous and still be without punishment/repercussions is intolerable to me. What kind of world is this? So much conflict, war, climate crisis, poverty, instability. Why? For some 1% of the people who can have all and keep the rest of world as their puppets. Frankly, it's disgusting.
I mean, it will never get better, will it? We have to live this way because the world is this way. This injustice trickles down to our everyday lives. The lives of the marginalised and the minorities, it's something we see in the world every fucking day. I'm so tired of this. I'm so tired of seeing the news of another rape, another hate crime, another shooting, another instance of corruption. It's unacceptable to me that we still have to be labelled as "committing" suicide when these crimes go unpunished. It's no wonder we want to fucking leave this awful world.

 

[liverhood]

I would say that going ctb just bc of all the shit that happens in this world is not a legit reason. Personal issues should be the only reasons to ctb, but thats just my opinion.

well, your opinion is wrong. suicide doesn't need to be caused by any "issues". in fact, suicide is the only solution to every problem, including things that might seem like small irrelevant nuisances

 

[Rational man]

You only have to look at corruption in politics, the spin, money grabbing, egocentric, power grabbing, vanity, megalomaniac butchery around the globe which has been documented since ancient times to realise that humans cannot change from the lure, glory and lust of' wonderful ' things. Even some church representatives have been caught too.

And yet these people preach to me about the sanctity of life whilst blindly ignoring the suffering amongst some people who want peace. CTB is of course a personal decision that is never ever taken lightly or impulsively.

 

[The Eeyorish One]

It's not necessarily the main reason I want to, but it is one of them. I interpret it as a sense of hopelessness, because we as a species are still so fucking cruel and awful even with all our collective knowledge. And that makes me not want to be around to be a part of it. Worst part is, I know these terrible things "trigger" me, but I also feel bad if I shut out all media/news because then I'm willfully being ignorant and just brushing aside others suffering so I can feel ok.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

I would say that going ctb just bc of all the shit that happens in this world is not a legit reason. Personal issues should be the only reasons to ctb, but thats just my opinion.

Well, it sort of becomes personal if it consistently affects your mood.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think it's most definitely there as at least a background reason at the minimum for a lot of people. Unless you are SO focussed on your own life, how can anyone look around and think this is a fair or just world? The worst of it is knowing that we ourselves likely cause suffering to other people and nature. Simply the guilt of knowing that isn't great to live with.

I think it can easily become more personal than that too. A company I once worked for promoted someone who I would say showed very sociopathic traits- they likely promoted them BECAUSE of those traits! They didn't mind doing the unpleasant tasks- disciplining people, giving people notice etc. I expect they even enjoyed the power.

It's pretty depressing to realise that on a grander scale- this world rewards people like that. People who can make those tough decisions because they likely have no empathy. They give them the high salaries in acknowledgement of the risks they take- because those risks define whether their employees get to keep their jobs. But what risk really is it if they don't give a shit about those employees?!! Maybe they'll end up losing their job too but I expect they realise they'll quickly get recruited by some other corrupt corporation to do their dirty work for them. How can anyone feel 'happy' to be in a world like that?

 

[Rational man]

I think it's most definitely there as at least a background reason at the minimum for a lot of people. Unless you are SO focussed on your own life, how can anyone look around and think this is a fair or just world? The worst of it is knowing that we ourselves likely cause suffering to other people and nature. Simply the guilt of knowing that isn't great to live with.

I think it can easily become more personal than that too. A company I once worked for promoted someone who I would say showed very sociopathic traits- they likely promoted them BECAUSE of those traits! They didn't mind doing the unpleasant tasks- disciplining people, giving people notice etc. I expect they even enjoyed the power.

It's pretty depressing to realise that on a grander scale- this world rewards people like that. People who can make those tough decisions because they likely have no empathy. They give them the high salaries in acknowledgement of the risks they take- because those risks define whether their employees get to keep their jobs. But what risk really is it if they don't give a shit about those employees?!! Maybe they'll end up losing their job too but I expect they realise they'll quickly get recruited by some other corrupt corporation to do their dirty work for them. How can anyone feel 'happy' to be in a world like that?

I too worked for an organisation who promoted someone who i think had psychopath traits. This man bullied and made life misery for many of us. Senior management knew this but were too scared to discipline him because of his mental health issues. Instead they accepted the ' bad apple' in the cart and many people left or went sick. One year later this man CTB but the damage was done. There's lip service everywhere, soundbiting galore and this demonstrates the falsehoods, insincerity of many people.

 

[Disaster]

So basically the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" mood? Yes, it is a thing.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I too worked for an organisation who promoted someone who i think had psychopath traits. This man bullied and made life misery for many of us. Senior management knew this but were too scared to discipline him because of his mental health issues. Instead they accepted the ' bad apple' in the cart and many people left or went sick. One year later this man CTB but the damage was done. There's lip service everywhere, soundbiting galore and this demonstrates the falsehoods, insincerity of many people.

It's actually frightening isn't it? Someone I know who worked as a teacher had a new head teacher come in and caused absolute uproar in the school. Most of the original staff left to get away from them. Finally, the governers stepped in and managed to call them out but in so doing- found that their previous school had basically paid them off and given them a glowing reference to get rid of them! It's quite incredible how bad eggs can rise to the top or thrive partly because people are afraid of them and everyone else just sucks up to them.

 

[freevoid]

I have struggled with thoughts of CTB for awhile but noticed they tend to get way worse after something terrible happens either in the world or someone does something terrible. (The person usually doesn't even know I exist).


I have decided that the main factor of this is due to a strong sense of justice and that for some reason I cannot stand to live in the same existence as the person who did the terrible act.


I'm just curious as if someone feels the same as me or if I'm just trying to find a valid excuse to CTB?

I realate to this a lot. Injustice just rips right through me and eats me up inside. It's too painful to experience constantly, and the disgust I feel at the lack of reparation is immense, and grows with each incident. To me this existence is rotten from the roots up, it rewards bullying and domination and heirarchy, all throughout nature.

 

[DiscT]

You only have to look at corruption in politics, the spin, money grabbing, egocentric, power grabbing, vanity, megalomaniac butchery around the globe which has been documented since ancient times to realise that humans cannot change from the lure, glory and lust of' wonderful ' things. Even some church representatives have been caught too.

And yet these people preach to me about the sanctity of life whilst blindly ignoring the suffering amongst some people who want peace. CTB is of course a personal decision that is never ever taken lightly or impulsively.

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