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Anon1337

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Oct 1, 2018
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CTB is now my only goal. Any hope I had of living a good life is gone. I deluded myself for years thinking I could actually live a normal life in this world.

Pro lifers, nothing got better. It has only got worse.

It's over.
 
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Death is my goal

Death is my goal

pathetic failure
Aug 25, 2022
474
same here, we meant to suffer.
 
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PracheenKaal_00!

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CTB is now my only goal. Any hope I had of living a good life is gone. I deluded myself for years thinking I could actually live a normal life in this world.

Pro lifers, nothing got better. It has only got worse.

It's over.
I can relate man. 🫂

Even I had hopes that I would be able to sort out my mental health issues and get to live normally like others. Live my life and achieve some milestones. Unfortunately, it's getting worse. I've seen the despicable side of people. I had hopes, I thought people would understand, big mistake. Continuing to suffer beyond a point makes one self exhausted.

At this point I am exhausted. I have given up. I've lost hopes. Despite taking help and trying various methods, it worked only temporarily. It's gotten a whole lot worse.

I hope you eventually find your peace.
 
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アホペンギン

アホペンギン

Jul 10, 2023
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We all feel this way 🫂
We just exist to suffer, unwanted suffering.
 
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Suicidal Ideation

Suicidal Ideation

burn my body, celebrate the afterglow
Jul 21, 2023
55
i am with you on this. i just no longer feel like being alive for anything.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
10,994
I'm sorry you have to go through this. Life is often so unfair and cruel. I hope find peace!
 
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LonelyKitten

LonelyKitten

Seeking one final escape
Aug 13, 2023
284
I feel you. Had so many hopes despite everything.

One by one, they all fall, like dominoes. Until a point of no return.

If nothing else, I hope your goal of peace is still attainable.
 
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Anon1337

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Oct 1, 2018
545
What are pro lifers doing to actually help us? If pro lifers want to help they should start taking action to change our lives. Pay for our therapy, pay debts, actually do something.
 
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befree

befree

Time to do more enjoyable things _____Goodbye_____
Mar 22, 2022
2,587
It´s always surprising when a moderator leaves.

Pay for our therapy, pay debts, actually do something.
I don´t believe that prolifers are responsible for solving the problems of the members of this forum. But society should respect the rights of people who want to die. And the politicians should create a legal framework for a self-determined, dignified and risk-free dying.

To avoid that so many people want to die because of problems caused by society and politicians, this world must be changed fundamentally.
Instead, this world is becoming more and more unfair and inhumane.
 
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Anon1337

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Oct 1, 2018
545
Now I understand why you asked me those questions by PM. Anyway, it´s always surprising when a moderator leaves.

Have a peaceful journey !

I don´t believe that prolifers are responsible for solving the problems of the members of this forum. But society should respect the rights of people who want to die. And the politicians should create a legal framework for a self-determined, dignified and risk-free dying.
This isn't goodbye, but I'm planning now.

Pro lifers are not responsible for solving our problems but if they want to actually help us they should take action to change our lives instead of repeating useless words.
 
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Unattainable666

Unattainable666

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2023
1,346
I'm sorry life has been so difficult. The pain of living can be so overwhelming. I understand. I'm older than most on the site. I kept thinking my life would get better, but it's done nothing than get worse. What a waste of my time attempting to live. I'll be ctb soon and look forward to not dealing with this shitty life
 
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020x

Suffering will end when the existence does.
Jul 6, 2023
249
Same. I don't do anything anymore except what I like, to distract myself at least.
 
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Anon1337

Mage
Oct 1, 2018
545
I can relate man. 🫂

Even I had hopes that I would be able to sort out my mental health issues and get to live normally like others. Live my life and achieve some milestones. Unfortunately, it's getting worse. I've seen the despicable side of people. I had hopes, I thought people would understand, big mistake. Continuing to suffer beyond a point makes one self exhausted.

At this point I am exhausted. I have given up. I've lost hopes. Despite taking help and trying various methods, it worked only temporarily. It's gotten a whole lot worse.

I hope you eventually find your peace.
I thought people would understand but I got the same responses every time. It is so isolating. I'm drawn to this forum because I know it's pointless talking people I know. Even therapy was a waste.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
37,501
The pro-life people just want to force suicidal people to suffer due to delusions and selfishness, they lack any compassion, I honestly find it replusive how there is such a thing as pro-life as none of us are even obligated to continue existing here, it's our life and our decision.
 
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Anon1337

Mage
Oct 1, 2018
545
When does it "get better"? The day before I die of old age?
 
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front of me

front of me

Experienced
Aug 3, 2023
289
I feel you, I am also at a point where I focus on my death my mind will never again deceive me with false hope
 
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Unattainable666

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2023
1,346
When does it "get better"? The day before I die of old age?
I'm 62 and it doesn't get better. My life has gotten worse. I wish I had ctb years ago and not had to live the shitty life I've had. It wasn't worth it.
 
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LonelyKitten

LonelyKitten

Seeking one final escape
Aug 13, 2023
284
What are pro lifers doing to actually help us? If pro lifers want to help they should start taking action to change our lives. Pay for our therapy, pay debts, actually do something.
That's something that irks me a lot. We get told a million times, please don't do it, "seek help", talk to a "professional".
What if you know the type of help needed isn't out there? Or that with or without help, the situation is hopeless?
Try to explain it, you'll never get through. It feels like they don't really listen.
As if your lived experience, that you know best, doesn't matter. What's wrong with making your own, independent decision about your life?

When you give in to the pleas and take lackluster/useless help, and it doesn't improve anything, you're the only one left with still being miserable.
Now just worse, with more time, energy and effort wasted.
If they don't care or don't know what to do, I wish they'd just say so. Don't keep tripping us into suffering on and on.

I've found some rare gems before, some NGOs in the States that offered tangible, real assistance toward longer term improvement, rather than just talking.
I think the best type of help is the kind that allows you to help yourself.
That sort of assistance is rare though, and often unpredictable. So without reaching a good core life of your own, it's all the same in the end.
 
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PracheenKaal_00!

Student
Aug 22, 2023
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The pro-life people just want to force suicidal people to suffer due to delusions and selfishness, they lack any compassion, I honestly find it replusive how there is such a thing as pro-life as none of us are even obligated to continue existing here, it's our life and our decision.
I can relate to ya.

I really wish (And I literally mean it) euthanasia would be legal. It's just pointless to expect people to live when they don't want to.
I strongly believe that we should be able to choose our destiny. Why should we continue suffering, just because of their delusion. It is truly our life and our decision.

By allowing a person to end their life in a dignified manner, that is true compassion. By forcing the person to continue living, they are essentially torturing them. That is not compassion.

If we want to CTB, we should be able to do so without being stopped, involuntarily forced into treatment, hospitalization. By denying the person the right to decide their destiny (i.e. when they want to end their life in a dignified manner without suffering etc.), the person's individuality, autonomy, choice and decision making is not respected. They are being forced to live and continue suffering just because others do not understand what the other person is going through / cannot accept their point of view / delusion etc. It's just so irritating.

Unfortunately, even in the present scenario, in certain countries, attempt to suicide is a crime.

I really hope in the future, people can choose their destiny in a dignified manner.
I thought people would understand but I got the same responses every time. It is so isolating. I'm drawn to this forum because I know it's pointless talking people I know. Even therapy was a waste.
I can relate man. I truly can.

At least in this site, we can truly share how we feel, what we wanna say, and what we wanna do, without risking being dismissed, forced to get help, face involuntary hospitalization.
I really wished we all could discuss the topic of suicide in this manner outside. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening in the near future.
It's just irritating when they keep giving the same type of response multiple times. Also, therapy does not work for everyone. It's just pointless to expect people to continue suffering and to live when they don't wanna.

What I've learnt is that people will never understand. My biggest mistake was that I had hopes that people would truly understand. I regret having that hope. Also, from what I've understood after all these years is that people will not accept our (i.e. suicidal people's, this site's people's etc.) point of view, because:
1. They cannot come to terms / accept our choices.
2. Delusion, they believe that everyone shares their viewpoints on life.
3. General societal message, i.e. they believe that life is always worth living etc.
4. Everything will work out in the end, I'm sorry to say this. Not everything works for everyone. Also, therapy does not work for all. It's jut pointless to expect people to continue living when they don't want to anymore.

To add an additional point. If we tell people how we are truly feeling, we get mocked, bullied, dismissed etc. If we ask for help, we are ignored. When we wanna commit suicide, they act like they care. This is just so irritating.
Also, why expect others to continue suffering when they don't wanna. It's just forced imprisonment (In the sense expecting them to live, no matter what etc.) at this point.
It´s always surprising when a moderator leaves.


I don´t believe that prolifers are responsible for solving the problems of the members of this forum. But society should respect the rights of people who want to die. And the politicians should create a legal framework for a self-determined, dignified and risk-free dying.

To avoid that so many people want to die because of problems caused by society and politicians, this world must be changed fundamentally.
Instead, this world is becoming more and more unfair and inhumane.
Exactly, I wholeheartedly agree with this!. 🫂
 
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dialogos

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Jul 5, 2023
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What are pro lifers doing to actually help us? If pro lifers want to help they should start taking action to change our lives. Pay for our therapy, pay debts, actually do something.
If I have a belief and wish other people to believe the same, then I must make sacrifices to backup my belief with action. There are prolifers who talk but don't do the walk of practical help. I did meet one who sent me cold hard cash when I needed it. It wasn't much, just a hundred USD but I appreciated it because she backed her words with action and she wasn't well off herself. I wish there were more of her.
 
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Quinton Coldwater

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Aug 22, 2023
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What are pro lifers doing to actually help us? If pro lifers want to help they should start taking action to change our lives. Pay for our therapy, pay debts, actually do something.
I agree if you wanna talk my PM is open
 
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day

Global Mod
Jun 24, 2023
642
Sorry the world has brought you to such a point OP.. I often think likewise about the topic. I'm past the "live life" phase and onto my journey of non-existence.
 
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Threads like this are what I'm here for, discussions like this where people can share how they truly feel. I'm sorry you feel that way OP, I don't take stock in "life getting better" either, it's just a way to cope with how problematic things can be in order to keep one just enough to stay above the surface.
To avoid that so many people want to die because of problems caused by society and politicians, this world must be changed fundamentally.
Instead, this world is becoming more and more unfair and inhumane.
I couldn't agree more with you befree, things are getting worse and treatment between people is getting more and more tense.
 
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