CTB as a virgin?

[NatalLiminality]

I'm an incel and I want to CTB but I don't want to die as a virgin. I also don't want to sleep with a prostitute and I'm totally afraid of even talking to girls.
Do you think it's noble to CTB as a virgin or should you try to have some kind of experience first?

 

[Suicidebydeath]

I don't know about noble. If you're an incel, then you're a guy, right? (girls prefer a different term).

I changed my mind about advocating it mid-post. If you sleep with someone and then kill yourself, it doesn't matter who it is, prostitute or not. That's going to hurt them really bad. And I'm not disparaging SW at all here, they have big hearts.

I wouldn't worry about dying as a virgin tbh. It is what it is. It's definitely not worth making another person feel terrible grief. Imagine how bad it'd feel if you slept with someone and they killed themselves afterwards.

Feels a bit like a bait post ngl. NYT and so on

I agree with the below poster, if you're legit incel, just start talking respectfully to girls. That's better advice than "just shower bro" that y'all meme about.

 

[NatalLiminality]

I don't know about noble. If you're an incel, then you're a guy, right? (girls prefer a different term). Go ahead and have the experience before you die imho.

You're right I'm a male but I can't find any girls willing and prostitutes scare me.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

First ask yourself why you're an incel. Is it really solely because of your looks or can your career and/or personality fill in those gaps? If they don't, do you really want to improve in those aspects just to score? Only you know the answers to these questions so only you know if indeed it really is worth it. As a fellow incel myself, I'm aware that I'll never even be able to improve in either of those aspects and even if I did I'm inevitably going to sabotage myself anyway so what's the point. I don't even have enough money for the escort at this point.

You on the other hand, maybe you really are attractive enough just not for the people you'd be attracted to. This in itself can be a dilemma but does not necessarily quite make you an incel. Not being able to talk to girls doesn't quite make you an incel either, it just makes you shy. If the idea of talking to a girl you like makes you feel afraid then consider the fear of being alone for the rest of your life just because you convinced yourself that it wasn't worth talking to this one person. I'm not able to properly judge whether that's more terrifying for you or not but if you're willing to CTB over it then at least consider it. It wouldn't really be noble unless you think your loneliness is actually going to be dangerous in which case maybe it is the way to go but it's really not my call. It's yours.

 

[NatalLiminality]

First ask yourself why you're an incel. Is it really solely because of your looks or can your career and/or personality fill in those gaps? If they don't, do you really want to improve in those aspects just to score? Only you know the answers to these questions so only you know if indeed it really is worth it. As a fellow incel myself, I'm aware that I'll never even be able to improve in either of those aspects and even if I did I'm inevitably going to sabotage myself anyway so what's the point. I don't even have enough money for the escort at this point.

You on the other hand, maybe you really are attractive enough just not for the people you'd be attracted to. This in itself can be a dilemma but does not necessarily quite make you an incel. Not being able to talk to girls doesn't quite make you an incel either, it just makes you shy. If the idea of talking to a girl you like makes you feel afraid then consider the fear of being alone for the rest of your life just because you convinced yourself that it wasn't worth talking to this one person. I'm not able to properly judge whether that's more terrifying for you or not but if you're willing to CTB over it then at least consider it. It wouldn't really be noble unless you think your loneliness is actually going to be dangerous in which case maybe it is the way to go but it's really not my call. It's yours.

I'm literally 1/10 in looks and manlet

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I'm literally 1/10 in looks and manlet

Plenty of people like that can still pull decent partners usually because they are rich and/or fill some other kind of personal or emotional niche that the woman is craving in a partner but I get it if you don't think you can compete there either. The matter of your CTB is still something you should know the answer to by yourself since it's not a decision to be made lightly…

 

[Snake of Eden]

I dont see much a difference to ctb as a virgin or not. Sex is overrated in my opinion unless you are hypersexual sex crazed person. Maybe you will miss out on intimacy but thats another play field

 

[NatalLiminality]

Plenty of people like that can still pull decent partners usually because they are rich and/or fill some other kind of personal or emotional niche that the woman is craving in a partner but I get it if you don't think you can compete there either. The matter of your CTB is still something you should know the answer to by yourself since it's not a decision to be made lightly…

Personality really doesn't matter to most people. It's a matter of biology

I dont see much a difference to ctb as a virgin or not. Sex is overrated in my opinion unless you are hypersexual sex crazed person. Maybe you will miss out on intimacy but thats another play field

I want to at least see what it's like

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Personality really doesn't matter to most people. It's a matter of biology

Biology actually made women more picky in that respect. Unlike with men they tend to care about even more things than just looks. Looks definitely help for first impressions but even men who have them would still be passed over if say they had no job, no future, no skills, no sense of hygiene, no confidence, etc. All that is an even tougher hill to climb than just looking good.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

I dont see much a difference to ctb as a virgin or not. Sex is overrated in my opinion unless you are hypersexual sex crazed person. Maybe you will miss out on intimacy but thats another play field

I was waiting for someone else to post this because of the potential bait. Sex for sure is overrated, incel culture is going to talk about it like its the be and end all for sure. It's overrated even for hypersexual people. Of course, the overrated part is just my opinion.

 

[NatalLiminality]

Biology actually made women more picky in that respect. Unlike with men they tend to care about even more things than just looks. Looks definitely help for first impressions but even men who have them would still be passed over if say they had no job, no future, no skills, no sense of hygiene, no confidence, etc. All that is an even tougher hill to climb than just looking good.

I don't believe you

I was waiting for someone else to post this because of the potential bait. Sex for sure is overrated, incel culture is going to talk about it like its the be and end all for sure. It's overrated even for hypersexual people. Of course, the overrated part is just my opinion.

You've had it so it makes sense you don't care about it as much.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

I'm hyper sexual and have probably had hundreds of partners in my life . If I had to estimate 80 percent of those were free and 20 percent were paid. It's enjoyable in the moment but it gets very dull and eventually sort of becomes a routine. As I type this I've actually declined sexual partners today just so I could post here and research CTB


Bear in mind Marilyn Monroe likely died of CTB by barbiturates (class of drug same as N). If one of the most hypersexualized beings ever to exist died of CTB then you should be able to as well with comfort

Another thing: with prostitutes it's often better than casual sex because they are working for it. Some of them absolutely suck and you end up feeling it was a waste of money but when you find one that's good you will want to go back.

 

[NatalLiminality]

I'm hyper sexual and have probably had hundreds of partners in my life . It's enjoyable in the moment but it gets very dull and eventually sort of becomes a routine. As I type this I've actually declined sexual partners today just so I could post here and CTB


Bear in mind Marilyn Monroe likely died of CTB by barbiturates (class of drug same as N). If one of the most hypersexualized beings ever to exist died of CTB then you should be able to as well with comfort

Another thing: with prostitutes it's often better than casual sex because they are working for it. Some of them absolutely suck and you end up feeling it was a waste of money but when you find one that's good you will want to go back.

Are you male or female?

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Male

Are you male or female?

 

[NatalLiminality]

Male

I see.

 

[Auto Immunity After]

Personality really doesn't matter to most people. It's a matter of biology

I want to at least see what it's like

How is it that you have been on this site for 1 week yet you know how to reply to and separate different parts of a post from a previous member? The NYT article mentions incels several times and here you are posting about this seemingly just to see what responses you get. I do not believe one word of this.

 

[NatalLiminality]

How is it that you have been on this site for 1 week yet you know how to reply to and separate different parts of a post from a previous member? The NYT article mentions incels several times and here you are posting about this seemingly just to see what responses you get. I do not believe one word of this.

I've been off and on with incels dot is for like 4 years.

Also, it's just Xenforo.

 

[Sanva]

i don't think that's the question you should be asking yourself. incel culture is very toxic. not to sound like a total normie but i recommend you try to change your outlook on life. most incels focus their life on this one goal of getting laid or getting their perfect virgin housewife fantasy girl or whatever. and then you only talk to and surround yourself with those guys with the same views and that's the only opinion you ever hear.

life doesn't have to be that way. I know plenty of unattractive guys who have girlfriends, simply because they're nice and respectful and have good hygiene. before you ctb or anything try getting out of any weird incel communities you're in and just try viewing women as people. we're not some crazy complicated higher beings. we're just people and every girl is different from the other.

I'm mainly saying that because i feel like if you subscribe to the incel view of the world things are gonna look pretty shit no matter what. and personally i just think you shouldn't ctb before you've tried out everything you could have tried out. then again, I'm not an incel and my life is still shit.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

How is it that you have been on this site for 1 week yet you know how to reply to and separate different parts of a post from a previous member? The NYT article mentions incels several times and here you are posting about this seemingly just to see what responses you get. I do not believe one word of this.

It does kind of come across as honeypotting to see who on this site actually identifies as an incel.

Too bad they only got me. I'm a pretty horrid example of one because I've been told I actually look alright and yet I'm still a soon to be 28 year old virgin myself. For any other incels who are watching: looks clearly aren't enough.

 

[Auto Immunity After]

It does kind of come across as honeypotting to see who on this site actually identifies as an incel.

Too bad they only got me. I'm a pretty horrid example of one because I've been told I actually look alright and yet I'm still a soon to be 28 year old virgin myself. For any other incels who are watching: looks clearly aren't enough.

I am in no way calling you out or anyone who may consider themselves to be part of this group. I simply dont believe the OP is a lagit poster at all.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

I am in no way calling you out or anyone who may consider themselves to be part of this group. I simply dont believe the OP is a lagit poster at all.

No worries. I kind of agree, and I apologize if it seemed otherwise.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

When it was immediately asked whether a self-identified hypersexual person was male or female and the posts following that, I laughed, ngl. My sense of humour is weird though.

I didn't laugh but I did think: what does it matter in the big scheme of things ? Whether someone is hyper sexual male or female , there is someone here telling you they are on the opposite end of your life experience and they feel exactly the same way that CTB is a valid life choice

 

[aprilshowers]

Assuming the poster isn't NYT, I don't see why you would want to lose your virginity right before death anyways. It seems dishonest to go your whole life without that sensuality but then rush headlong into it before the end. No disrespect to people that want to, but I just don't get it.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Go for 2 in one combo: get the prostitute girl and take enough viagra that you'll surely die. There are so many media reports online of idiot guys who take too much viagra and die

 

[BeautifulMosaics]

Assuming the poster isn't NYT, I don't see why you would want to lose your virginity right before death anyways. It seems dishonest to go your whole life without that sensuality but then rush headlong into it before the end. No disrespect to people that want to, but I just don't get it.

I don't get "dishonest" or why you don't get it tbh.. Most of the time people have issues which stop them from getting out into the world and developing relationships to grow into sex and intimacy with other people. Because of how sex is praised and how people are naturally inclined to physically desire sex, we naturally want to at least experience it once before we die.

 

[lonerclown666]

Im a virgin too i will die virgin im now okay with that i cant forget a girl that i like and other girls dont want me to talk to them

 

[Versailles]

I'm an incel and I want to CTB but I don't want to die as a virgin. I also don't want to sleep with a prostitute and I'm totally afraid of even talking to girls.
Do you think it's noble to CTB as a virgin or should you try to have some kind of experience first?

I do not think there is any difference if you do it with a prostitute than if you do it with a partner (Unless you like to do things without a condom), I resort to prostitutes frequently because I take it for granted that it will be difficult for me to find a partner and I do not see Much difference.

Assuming the poster isn't NYT, I don't see why you would want to lose your virginity right before death anyways. It seems dishonest to go your whole life without that sensuality but then rush headlong into it before the end. No disrespect to people that want to, but I just don't get it.

Well I want to sleep with 5 girls at the same time before CTB, haha

 

[WonderingSoul]

I don't it should matter that much. I'm a virgin too, but I'm not focused on sex that much.

 

[ikadasui]

It would of been nice I guess to try, but escape is my one and only concern now and that takes full priority over and other meager pleasure

 

[angelhealing]

I'm a virgin too but I dont want to use a prostitute. I think it's unethical to pay to use another person's body.
Dying as a virgin doesn't really bother me, it seems immature to me that someone wants to rush and have sex with a random stranger just so they don't die a virgin.
And if I somehow found a loving long-term partner to have sex with I probably wouldn't want to kill myself.