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Butterflyfree

Butterflyfree

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Oct 10, 2021
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As my time gets closer for my fur babies and I to board the ship to the undying lands, I try to imagine what the last week leading up to it will be like? The last few days? I wanted to wait until the Holidays were over and the New year had passed. What will the night before and the day of be like for me? What should I do? Like I'm thinking just keeping to my same regular schedule as I am a creature of habit and prone to extreme anxiety if my schedule gets thrown off. There's really nothing special that I want to do as I'm physically unable to do anything anyway even if I wanted to. So I'm thinking just my regular daily schedule and try to focus as much as I can on my fur babies and getting them ready for their journey first then mine right after. It's excruciatingly painful to think about and imagine but the alternative is so much worse.
 
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Close the world, Open the next.
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Fur babies, like dogs/cats and stuff?
 
Chinaski

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Can l ask why you are killing your "fur babies" as well? I'm not sure what species of animal you are referring to but they didn't choose death and this constitutes animal abuse.
 
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FuneralCry

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Just wanting some peace
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I wish you the best. When the time comes to leave, I hope you find peace. I think before I ctb I will not do anything special as well, there is nothing left for me here and there is nothing I want to do anyway.
 
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dustbiter

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hewwo one and all :3
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Can l ask why you are killing your "fur babies" as well? I'm not sure what species of animal you are referring to but they didn't choose death and this constitutes animal abuse.

not op, but i think some ppl opt to ctb w their pets bc they dont have anywhere/anyone to give them to. no one to take them and no shelters w openings and whatnot.
i think the logic is that if theyre just going 2 end up dying in a kill shelter, or abandoned to the elements, then best to give them a euthanasia at home! thats what i gather anyway •3•
 
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not op, but i think some ppl opt to ctb w their pets bc they dont have anywhere/anyone to give them to. no one to take them and no shelters w openings and whatnot.
i think the logic is that if theyre just going 2 end up dying in a kill shelter, or abandoned to the elements, then best to give them a euthanasia at home! thats what i gather anyway •3•
Strongly disagree, hurting animals is not "pro choice", it's not cute or romantic, it's someone cruelly determining the fate of what they consider to be a lesser species for their own selfish reasons and I'm very uncomfortable with people considering this to be an acceptable addendum to suicide.
 
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rationaldeath

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Strongly disagree, hurting animals is not "pro choice", it's not cute or romantic, it's someone cruelly determining the fate of what they consider to be a lesser species for their own selfish reasons and I'm very uncomfortable with people considering this to be an acceptable addendum to suicide.
If the animals were to die without any suffering would you still consider it a bad thing? If so, do you believe it is wrong because the animals do not have a choice in the matter?
 
Chinaski

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If the animals were to die without any suffering would you still consider it a bad thing? If so, do you believe it is wrong because the animals do not have a choice in the matter?
I think there has to be a legitimate reason for euthanising an animal which goes beyond "I want them to travel with me on my journey" or similar flowery shit. Animals are living creatures, pets are not livestock but family members imo, they are not our objects to dispose of when convenient. Domestic pets are often loving, loyal, devoted and ask for little in return, they deserve better than to have their lives extinguished by their owners for essentially selfish reasons.
 
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dustbiter

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Strongly disagree, hurting animals is not "pro choice", it's not cute or romantic, it's someone cruelly determining the fate of what they consider to be a lesser species for their own selfish reasons and I'm very uncomfortable with people considering this to be an acceptable addendum to suicide.
huh ._.? i dont think anyone said it was pro choice, cute, or romantic. im confused :3~

also, i mean, dont we do that anyway like all the time ._.? we kill animals so we can eat them, because there isnt enough room for them, bc they get in the way of stuff we want like land for farming and building, and just for fun sometimes like w big game hunting!

if the pet is going to get killed anyway in a shelter, then i think the thought process is that at least they can die in a familiar setting w familiar ppl.

EDIT: i am not saying i would do this personally btw, if that was unclear uwu
 
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huh ._.? i dont think anyone said it was pro choice, cute, or romantic. im confused :3~

also, i mean, dont we do that anyway like all the time ._.? we kill animals so we can eat them, because there isnt enough room for them, bc they get in the way of stuff we want like land for farming and building, and just for fun sometimes like w big game hunting!

if the pet is going to get killed anyway in a shelter, then i think the thought process is that at least they can die in a familiar setting w familiar ppl.

EDIT: i am not saying i would do this personally btw, if that was unclear uwu
I guess this depends on your personal experience with pets, I've had pets (dogs and cats) most of my life and it's frankly not something l personally could defend, based on my attachments to my own pets. I may have a different view had l worked in an abbatoir for twenty years, but imo no animals should be needlessly killed in a ctb just as no person should be physically harmed. The animal cannot *choose*, and it should not suffer at the hands of the owner to whom it is devoted.
 
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Butterflyfree

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Can l ask why you are killing your "fur babies" as well? I'm not sure what species of animal you are referring to but they didn't choose death and this constitutes animal abuse.
Excuse me you judgemental jerk, It doesn't constitute as abuse when a mobile vet has approved it and is coming to my home to euthanize them. They are old and not healthy. Go judge someone else's situation you know nothing about.
not op, but i think some ppl opt to ctb w their pets bc they dont have anywhere/anyone to give them to. no one to take them and no shelters w openings and whatnot.
i think the logic is that if theyre just going 2 end up dying in a kill shelter, or abandoned to the elements, then best to give them a euthanasia at home! thats what i gather anyway •3•
Thank you for understanding, my dog and cat are my heart and soul. They are both older and not in good health. They have been with me since they were born. The vet is coming to euthanize them and then I will follow later that evening.
If the animals were to die without any suffering would you still consider it a bad thing? If so, do you believe it is wrong because the animals do not have a choice in the matter?
I know that if they could speak they would tell me this is what they want.
My post is about the approach of the end of my life on this earth, the days immediately leading up to it and the day of. I would like to keep it on topic please.
 
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Chinaski

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Excuse me you judgemental jerk, It doesn't constitute as abuse when a mobile vet has approved it and is coming to my home to euthanize them. They are old and not healthy. Go judge someone else's situation you know nothing about.
Yeah l do have a negative view on those who harm animals for their own selfish reasons, fair play to you for not bludgeoning them with a rolling pin though.
 
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Butterflyfree

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I guess this depends on your personal experience with pets, I've had pets (dogs and cats) most of my life and it's frankly not something l personally could defend, based on my attachments to my own pets. I may have a different view had l worked in an abbatoir for twenty years, but imo no animals should be needlessly killed in a ctb just as no person should be physically harmed. The animal cannot *choose*, and it should not suffer at the hands of the owner to whom it is devoted.
Again, judgement and assumptions. They are being euthanized by the mobile vet coming to my home, not with my CTB method. They are older with health problems and would suffer horribly without me. They are my heart and soul and have been with me since their births we have been velcrod together. It would be like taking them from heaven and putting them in hell. If they could speak they would tell me they don't want to be orphaned and left behind like that to suffer. Most people would choose to just toss them into a shelter so they wouldn't have to deal with this or make this decision. That doesn't mean that's the right thing to do.
Yeah l do have a negative view on those who harm animals for their own selfish reasons, fair play to you for not bludgeoning them with a rolling pin though.
Hmmm so what would you do with your old, unhealthy pets?
 
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Zzzzz

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May you and your fur babies find peace in the undying lands.
 
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Strongly disagree, hurting animals is not "pro choice", it's not cute or romantic, it's someone cruelly determining the fate of what they consider to be a lesser species for their own selfish reasons and I'm very uncomfortable with people considering this to be an acceptable addendum to suicide.
@Chinaski, please let us try not to be judgmental. As long as her pets are put down painlessly, I do not see a problem with her decision. Moreover, we do not know the situation of her pets, i.e., age, illnesses, etc. I believe she is doing the responsible thing.
 
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I think there has to be a legitimate reason for euthanising an animal which goes beyond "I want them to travel with me on my journey" or similar flowery shit. Animals are living creatures, pets are not livestock but family members imo, they are not our objects to dispose of when convenient. Domestic pets are often loving, loyal, devoted and ask for little in return, they deserve better than to have their lives extinguished by their owners for essentially selfish reasons.
@Chinaski is not old age and bad health a legitimate enough reason? Would you keep your pets lives going even when they are old and sickly just for your own selfish reasons to keep them with you?
 
Chinaski

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@Chinaski, please let us try not to be judgmental. As long as her pets are put down painlessly, I do not see a problem with her decision. Moreover, we do not know the situation of her pets, i.e., age, illnesses, etc. I believe she is doing the responsible thing.
Tbf two animals are going to be killed in order to facilitate someone's ctb and if I'm honest I'll always feel uncomfortable when that happens (has happened here before) , the fact they're "old and not healthy" strikes me as something of an afterthought and isn't the primary reason for their death - but at least they're going peacefully, in other cases they haven't.
@Chinaski is not old age and bad health a legitimate enough reason? Would you keep your pets lives going even when they are old and sickly just for your own selfish reasons to keep them with you?
No, now you're spinning the yarn back and it's unconvincing. You are killing them in order to facilitate your own ctb, that's your choice l guess, but don't overdo the "actually I'm doing the kindest thing, in fact it's YOU who is selfish by NOT KILLING ANIMALS" thing, there's no need, it's not as if l can talk you out of it.
 
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avoid_slow_death

avoid_slow_death

Ready to embrace the peaceful bliss of the void.
Feb 4, 2020
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So terribly sorry it's come to this for you. I hate that you have to do what you have to do, but, considering the circumstances, I understand your decision. Tried answering your PM earlier, but the chat side of the side is lagging so badly I had a ton of trouble doing so. Hopefully it will get fixed soon. Hugs to you and the fur furs. Will speak to you later if the problem is fixed.
 
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Tbf two animals are going to be killed in order to facilitate someone's ctb and if I'm honest I'll always feel uncomfortable when that happens (has happened here before) , the fact they're "old and not healthy" strikes me as something of an afterthought and isn't the primary reason for their death - but at least they're going peacefully, in other cases they haven't.

No, now you're spinning the yarn back and it's unconvincing. You are killing them in order to facilitate your own ctb, that's your choice l guess, but don't overdo the "actually I'm doing the kindest thing, in fact it's YOU who is selfish by NOT KILLING ANIMALS" thing, there's no need, it's not as if l can talk you out of it.

Tbf two animals are going to be killed in order to facilitate someone's ctb and if I'm honest I'll always feel uncomfortable when that happens (has happened here before) , the fact they're "old and not healthy" strikes me as something of an afterthought and isn't the primary reason for their death - but at least they're going peacefully, in other cases they haven't.

No, now you're spinning the yarn back and it's unconvincing. You are killing them in order to facilitate your own ctb, that's your choice l guess, but don't overdo the "actually I'm doing the kindest thing, in fact it's YOU who is selfish by NOT KILLING ANIMALS" thing, there's no need, it's not as if l can talk you out of it.
@Chinaski if it's any consolation to you the time was getting near for them to have to go because of their health. I am going because they are going and I don't want to live in this world without them anymore then they would want to be here without me. Please stop assuming.
 
Chinaski

Chinaski

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@Chinaski if it's any consolation to you the time was getting near for them to have to go because of their health. I am going because they are going and I don't want to live in this world without them anymore then they would want to be here without me. Please stop assuming.
Fair enough. I hope it's peaceful for all parties.
 
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Butterflyfree

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Fair enough. I hope it's peaceful for all parties.
@Chinaski sorry I called you a jerk :( it's just that this is such a painful and difficult time for me. I am suffering greatly.
 
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I can only imagine, if you go through with your plans I hope you won't suffer any longer. If it isn't the right time then that's ok too. All the best love, I'm sorry
 
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