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noname223

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The link is not working. The name of the video is Nick Schou and Ben Collins: "Contemporary and Classic Conspiracy Theories" by Pitzer College
Now the link is working.

I watched this lecture on conspiracy theories because I wanted to learn more about how US intelligence services influence media outlets.

The takes by Ben Collins can also be found in mass media. It was nothing new.

I found more interesting what Nick Schou had to say. He had a collegue (a journalist) who commited suicide after getting discredited and attacked by major news outlets. His collegue reported about connections between the CIA and Nicaraguan caretells. He says most journalists have no clue what they are talking about when they report on a story on secret matters (to 80%). They are dependent too much on the sources and are thus in a conflict of interest. They have to maintain their relation with higher ups and at the same time they have no access to the full reporting. Of course he alludes that people wanted to destroy the life of his collegue for his honest reporting. There were too powerful people involved and mainstream media was complicit in ruining his life. And it is of course a chilling effect if something this horrible happens after an investigative reporting.

There is a scientist/listener in the room who criticized Ben Collins. Everything journalists do is creating narratives with no substance. There are is a small minority who is brave but only part-time.

Always follow the money.
 
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I tried to listen to it, but it was really boring~ then, I realized that I was literally being tricked into watching a college lecture~ >_< so I stopped~ :)
He does make a good point about the side that's being out of power tending to be the one that makes conspiracy theories, altho I doubt that that's always true~ at least with stuff like JFK and Epstein certainly~ and well, some right wingers were still theorizing conspiracies about Covid and 9/11, even when they were in power~ I think he should phrase it more as that one has to be discontent with the state of things to create one~
 
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"All warfare is based on deception."
- Sun Tzu


Just anecdotes, I went on a trip with one of the Hearst granddaughters.
I also have previously worked around government at a couple points in my career… (think I spoke of this in more detail on other threads)
I know one of the former CEO's of NPR.
There was also a different family that I have a connection to… they owned a media empire in America for generations before selling it in the '90's for billions.



Even when the FOMC or the Secretary of Commerce or USTR speaks, it's just credible threats. There are a lot of narratives. Wall Street loves, commentators love narratives it's just a fancy word for a story. They want a story. And stories are very powerful. People buy into them and they act accordingly. But a lot of narratives are false.

The media was supposed to be the unwritten fourth branch of government that would report on what the others were doing and act as a counterbalance. But today they are the unofficial PR wing of the DoD.
A lot of times you hear, "according to officials."

The news is also a business. Media companies used to have less opinion moderating but then they realized they could monetize the news instead of taking a loss on it and making up for it in other areas like entertainment or advertising. Fear sells, hyperbole sells, flash sells. Eyes on screens.

What do you think Voice of America and Radio Free Europe and all those variations are? It's the US government's official funded foreign news source. It's a rather obscure website type thing most people don't look for. It's primarily directed towards the international consumer. I think you said you've read this?

You would be surprised by how powerful but also how incompetent the entire apparatus is…

But yellow journalism also isn't new.


@noname223

The CIA was an early investor in Facebook (InQTel). Not a conspiracy nor a theory.


Also look up credible threat theory, it applies to a lot to economic policy and international relations, etc
 
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The newspapers that have always had a national interest have liaisons so that they can work with the CIA and the State Department and they do each other's bidding.
We live in managed reality. We're all in some version of the Truman Show.



There's an entire hidden world of national security. Basically the fourth branch of government created in response to 9/11.

Probably but they're so entrenched with conspiracy and classified information that I don't think the public will ever truly know for sure—and so we're all left to speculate.