Cons of using charcoal(CO) in car method

[Bpdboii]

There are alot of cons in this method. The car can catch the fire due to burning charcoal. The fumes and smell will make you uncomfortable. Most importantly, if the charcoal amount is not sufficient or it won't burn properly to make sufficient percentage of CO in air (<1%), and you wake up, it is possible that you have the brain damage.

 

[noonetoo]

If we wake up with brain damage, will that delete memories?

 

[Wreck-it-Riley]

If we wake up with brain damage, will that delete memories?

Honestly, probably not. its more like you just cant put thoughts together. nothing makes sense anymore. Memories are easier than normal thinking after, it could trap you in them

 

[noonetoo]

You think it'll be better in a motel room?

 

[JimFord99]

If we wake up with brain damage, will that delete memories?

Not necessarily. The memories may remain.

 

[noonetoo]

How will the car catch fire

 

[JimFord99]

How will the car catch fire

Only if you ignite the fuel tank. Gimme fuel, gimme fire, gimme that which I desire, ooh!
Metallica's Fuel.

love you.

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

Not sure if you're a smoker, but if so then you are more susceptible to CO poisoning. If that helps. A motel would be better for privacy and because you could seal the bathroom with tape and leave a note on the door so nobody opens it without knowing there's poison gas inside. You can also sit in the bathtub then to try to stay comfortable.

 

[Sensei]

Good points. It's not my number one method, but I have considered it. Maybe some of the cons can be countered?

The car can catch the fire due to burning charcoal.

Never thought of this before. The question is, how quickly can it catch fire? If it catches fire after you have lost consciousness it shouldn't matter.

The fumes and smell will make you uncomfortable.

Perhaps the fumes and smells are easier to tolerate if you are drunk? Of course, being drunk increases the risk of a botched attempt, but how difficult can it be to put a lighter on a disposable grill even if you're drunk?

Most importantly, if the charcoal amount is not sufficient or it won't burn properly to make sufficient percentage of CO in air (<1%), and you wake up, it is possible that you have the brain damage.

This is no doubt the scariest con. Maybe many grills can be used? Of course, there's limited space in a car. Even if many grills are used, there are still no garantuees that a sufficient number of them will burn properly.

 

[APharmaDestroyedLife]

I have had to "tools" to do this for about a year now. What I cant figure out is the fail rate, why it happens, and the wide opinion on how long to burn, what color should they be, how much to use, how to ignite. Etc etc etc... it seems the Chinese and Japanese have figured out how to make this work with fairly high reliability, I think maybe we over complicate it. Lots of people died without using a chimney starter or waiting X amount of time. It could all come down to random chance on combustion... I really wish I had more answers and more certainty in this method. The Chinese sure seem to have it figured out. I've also come to think for some of us maybe it requires multiple exposures like 2 or 3 nights in a row. I know of a now "at rest" x-member of this forum tried for what I think is 3 nights before they finally ctb.

There are some of us that can just take more toxins I guess... there was a story of 2 roommates in Australia who brought their hibatchi into their apartment for heat. 1 of them died, the other was found days later and suffered severe brain damage and had to have an arm amputated.... that's when I decided this is probably not a chance I want to take.

The other side you hear are of people who woke up just feeling out of it and with flu like symptoms... The current data I have does not give me enough confidence to rely on this method. With the way my 44 years on this planet has treated me, I would be the one hooked up to life support trapped in my own mind but in full paralysis

 

[CaptainT]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-failed-with-co-method-last-night.25448/

The car won't catch fire as you're bringing in the coals once the flames have stopped.

You're putting the coals in a tray/bucket on bricks or above a water trough so heat danger is minimal.

There should be no smoke. Remember you're bringing in the coals after the smoke and flames have finished outside.

Disposable bbqs smell due to charcoal being impregnated with firelighters but I found a bucket of briquettes had no smell to them at all. Next day the car was fine.

But your last concern is indeed a real concern, and the biggest danger of the CO method. My attempt failed two weeks ago and I'm feeling foggy, slower, headaches etc.

What's more concerning is that harsher side effects can kick in 4-5 weeks after the attempt, as the neurological impact is delayed in 40% of survivors.

Still debating whether to try this again as the actual experience wasn't bad, just the waking up from it!

 

[DeepSleep]

My attempt failed two weeks ago and I'm feeling foggy, slower, headaches etc.

Has your perception of life and death changed since? Are you more "OK" with it and less fearful?
You popped Valium and vodka to ram down your fear. Maybe this has attributed to your impaired judgement
and your actions?
Not sleeping for 48 hours before the attempt might be a better "knockout" option. Makes you naturally woozy.

 

[Farmmaa]

There are alot of cons in this method. The car can catch the fire due to burning charcoal. The fumes and smell will make you uncomfortable. Most importantly, if the charcoal amount is not sufficient or it won't burn properly to make sufficient percentage of CO in air (<1%), and you wake up, it is possible that you have the brain damage.

All methods have cons and all methods can fail.
I'm pretty sure this is the method for me.

There is no way your car is going to catch fire if you prepare properly. There are many materials you can put under the bucket of coals to prevent it from contacting anything combustible. Bricks, ceramic tiles, baking sheets, turkey roasters, etc. You are not bringing flames in to the vehicle. Briquettes burn at a lower heat than lump charcoal.
I have a small SUV so have plenty of flat cargo area to set everything up safely.

There should be no fumes, smoke or smell... none. You light them outside and let them burn until they are grey/white and no longer 'burning'. CO is odorlesss.

Make sure you use enough charcoal... problem solved.
If using approximately 1 kg of charcoal, there is more than enough to produce enough CO after 20 minutes to leave you unconscious in minutes.