Combining N/sleeping pills and SN?

[Itsbeenalongtime]

So I have my SN, I think I'm going to be able to get it down me. I'm just not looking forward to the wait that comes with it and nausea. Then I had the bright idea of taking N with SN? I could afford it but its something I only want to splurge on if I'm definitely using it! My fear with N is not being able to drink enough for it to be 100% certain and effective due to its chemical taste and my sensitive taste buds. But maybe if I take SN then try to drink as much N as possible right after, then at best I die from N nice and peacefully, at worst I get to take a nap while my SN takes effect. Do you think this would work? Is there anything that could go wrong from combining the 2? My other idea is stealing sleeping pills from a family member and scoffing the lot, there isn't enough for it to be lethal but I'd probably get to sleep through the SN setting in. Pills would be zolpidem and amitriptyline (a benzodiazipine and a tricyclic antidepressant if that matters). I previously had a big OD on those pills so they are kept in a medicine safe (which I stole the key to and made a copy of a couple years ago hehe), but I feel confident using them.

Does anyone see any problems with my ideas? Or have recommendations. Please don't have a go at me for asking. It's not a set plan it's just a query and I want to work out if my experience could be improved

Edit: so using both would likely increase my chances to vomit- noted. Do you think the sleeping pulls could still be an option, just to get through SN setting in? Not N

 

[Lost Magic]

Nobody has ever suggested combining them and if you want the truth, it sounds silly. I had SN before I got N. SN is now a backup but If I drink the N successfully I won't need SN. I will take metoclopramide, 2 propranolol, one benzo and one sleeping tablet before the event in order to reduce sickness and survival instinct. Please rethink this. One of these methods is enough, if you follow the proper protocols. A strong mouthwash, like Benzydamine Mouthwash, should help numb your mouth and tongue btw.

 

[katagiri83]

Not a good idea at all to combine N + SN, you can easily vomit out the N together with SN which could leave you in a worse place then now. Reconsider your proposal to reduce potential harm.

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

Nobody has ever suggested combining them and if you want the truth, it sounds silly. I had SN before I got N. SN is now a backup but If I drink the N successfully I won't need it. I will take 2 propranolol, one benzo and one sleeping tablet before the event in order to reduce survival instinct. Please rethink this. One of these methods is enough, if you follow the proper protocols.

I dont see how it sounds silly, unless there I'd going to be some sort of reaction between the 2 that reduces effectiveness. But that's why I'm asking.
I honestly would love to just use N I'd I could but I don't know if I could drink it as I gag easily at tastes I don't like, especially alcohol. I cant afford to drink some and not finish, i would be found before i fully recovered, have my N taken, get sectioned.
I also don't think it's unreasonable to not want to feel sick have headaches and turn blue for up to a few hours. Sleeping through it seems like a much better experience to me!
If it increases the chances of my success or the peacefulness of my exit then I would do it

Not a good idea at all to combine N + SN, you can easily vomit out the N together with SN which could leave you in a worse place then now. Reconsider your proposal to reduce potential harm.

This makes sense, if I used SN and sleeping pills do you think that would be an issue? When I took them before I wasn't at all sick and I took a lot, way more than I would be taking under this circumstance

 

[Lost Magic]

I dont see how it sounds silly, unless there I'd going to be some sort of reaction between the 2 that reduces effectiveness. But that's why I'm asking.
I honestly would love to just use N I'd I could but I don't know if I could drink it as I gag easily at tastes I don't like, especially alcohol. I cant afford to drink some and not finish, i would be found before i fully recovered, have my N taken, get sectioned.
I also don't think it's unreasonable to not want to feel sick have headaches and turn blue for up to a few hours. Sleeping through it seems like a much better experience to me!
If it increases the chances of my success or the peacefulness of my exit then I would do it

smh, did you read my post properly. I said you should do one method and stick with it. You are overcomplicating this whole thing but it's your choice.

 

[Graytaichi]

Its silly. U might throw up with the N and SN. This two interact w one another forgive me if im wrong.

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

smh, did you read my post properly. I said you should do one method and stick with it. You are overcomplicating this whole thing but it's your choice.

I did read it, it just sounded dismissive and didn't really explain why. The other poster elaborated about increasing chances to vomit. Which makes sense to me as why it could be a bad idea as I know both can trigger it.
I'm not trying to dull SI, I just hate discomfort and and mouthwash won't dull my gag reflex enough unfortunately.

 

[Lost Magic]

I did read it, it just sounded dismissive and didn't really explain why. The other poster elaborated about increasing chances to vomit. Which makes sense to me as why it could be a bad idea as I know both can trigger it.
I'm not trying to dull SI, I just hate discomfort and and mouthwash won't dull my gag reflex unfortunately.

No method is full proof but I believe I explained pretty sufficiently that one method is 'enough'. If you have problems consuming the liquids then maybe you should rethink, well pretty much everything about this.

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

No method is full proof but I believe I explained pretty sufficiently that one method is 'enough'. If you have problems consuming the liquids then maybe you should rethink, well pretty much everything about this.

Its not liquids but specific tastes. I can do salty but ethanol/strong chemical is a no

Yes one method should be enough. But many of us here fear failure so I don't think it's wrong to seek a way of being more certain of success. I'm happy to be corrected if an idea is bad as I don't want to fail. I just don't want to feel talked down at, sorry if that wasn't the vibe you were trying to project but it's what I felt

 

[Lost Magic]

Its not liquids but specific tastes. I can do salty but ethanol/strong chemical is a no

then SN should be enough. I have never heard anybody talk about combining SN and Nembutal. It just sounds extreme and unnecessary.

 

[katagiri83]

So… it's bad idea simply because you will purposefully increase the chance of vomiting by at least two-fold or more (as compared to either method n it's own), thus sabotaging both methods. I'm only commenting so you'll realize the danger of such combination.

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

So… it's bad idea simply because you will purposefully increase the chance of vomiting by at least two-fold or more (as compared to either method n it's own), thus sabotaging both methods. I'm only commenting so you'll realize the danger of such combination.

Yup dw I already got that, my post was not a certain plan but an asking "is this feasible" I put an edit at the bottom of my original post already

 

[Graytaichi]

Yup dw I already got that, my post was not a certain plan but an asking "is this feasible" I put an edit at the bottom of my original post already

So envious you got the 2 most highly slought after items.

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

So envious you got the 2 most highly slought after items.

I dont actually have N, I just could afford it if I wanted to so it's on the cards... my issue would be swallowing it! :D SN was pretty easy to find with a little searching

 

[Lost Magic]

I dont actually have N, I just could afford it if I wanted to so it's on the cards... my issue would be swallowing it! :D SN was pretty easy to find with a little searching

tbh swallowing both substances can lead to vomiting anyway, that is why you need an anti-emetic like metoclopramide or domperidone

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

tbh swallowing both substances can lead to vomiting anyway, that is why you need an anti-emetic like metoclopramide or domperidone

Yep my sn kit is all ready at least. I was just seeing if N was worth it too. Or if I could take sleeping pills after my SN to make the process more peaceful

 

[Graytaichi]

If u have good ae . SN is fine too , its extremely toxic.

 

[Lost Magic]

Yep my sn kit is all ready at least. I was just seeing if N was worth it too. Or if I could take sleeping pills after my SN to make the process more peaceful

Well, like I said one method is enough. I would have went with the SN protocol if I wasn't fortunate enough to acquire N. However, I will take the necessary pills beforehand to make the passing more peaceful.

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

If u have good ae . SN is fine too , its extremely toxic.

I know, I have ae and SN. Thinking of getting a backup SN too and testing both. It would just be nice to skip the wait time for SN by sleeping if I could (not with N ofc if its gonna make me vomit)

Well, like I said one method is enough. I would have went with the SN protocol if I wasn't fortunate enough to acquire N. However, I will take the necessary pills beforehand to make the passing more peaceful.

I honestly wish I could just get N and inject it but that isn't practical either

 

[Lost Magic]

I know, I have ae and SN. Thinking of getting a backup SN too and testing both. It would just be nice to skip the wait time for SN by sleeping if I could (not with N ofc if its gonna make me vomit)

I take it you have read the protocol for taking SN through Stan's guide or the Peaceful Pill Handbook? It is recommend to have a backup glass handy, if you vomit the first one. I'm glad you have the anti-emetic because it is a requirement, not a luxury. Remember, One method is enough (in my opinion).

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

I take it you have read the protocol for taking SN through Stan's guide or the Peaceful Pill Handbook? They also recommend having a backup glass handy, if you vomit the first one. I'm glad you have the anti-emetic because it is a requirement, not a luxury. Remember, One method is enough.

Yup, I have my ppeh and a physical one I got before I found this forum, I am reading threads ect. I wouldn't go through with something unless I was sure i was doing it correctly and had a good chance of success.

If I didn't want to be sure about stuff I wouldn't have posted this thread!

 

[Lost Magic]

Yup, I have my ppeh and a physical one I got before I found this forum, I am reading threads ect. I wouldn't go through with something unless I was sure i was doing it correctly and had a good chance of success.

If I didn't want to be sure about stuff I wouldn't have posted this thread!

Actually, you weren't sure about it or you wouldn't have asked about the need to combine the methods. If you were sure, you would stick with one tried and tested method. Anyway, good luck in whatever you decide to do. Just try not to overcomplicate this stuff.

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

Actually, you weren't sure about it or you wouldn't have asked about the need to combine the methods. If you were sure, you would stick with one tried and tested method. Anyway, good luck in whatever you decide to do. Just try not to overcomplicate this stuff.

Yeah I wasn't sure and wanted to be sure.... so I asked? Lol

Why so condescending? We all come here for support not to be made to feel like shit

 

[Lost Magic]

Yeah I wasn't sure and wanted to be sure.... so I asked? Lol

Why so condescending? We all come here for support not to be made to feel like shit

It's just my blunt demeanour. If you feel like shit, that was not my intent. If I didn't offer support, I wouldn't have replied. I think I not only provided support but gave you good advice tbh and so did everybody else. But at the end of the day, you either take it or do your own thing.

 

[balshoi77]

Actually, you weren't sure about it or you wouldn't have asked about the need to combine the methods. If you were sure, you would stick with one tried and tested method. Anyway, good luck in whatever you decide to do. Just try not to overcomplicate this stuff.

In case you vomit some of the N, the advice is to abort. Unless you have some glasses of SN ready for backup you just take that and hopefully fall asleep from the small N that's still in your body and die from the SN.

It's not a bad idea combining methods.