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I have 1g if china white coming in the mail soon. Does it need to mixed with citric acid to be inected IV and for sure OD? Or does it need to be heated? I have a syringe pump to push it all for me in a certain amount of time, but want to make sure I don't waste any of it's dose by not preparing it properly. Anyone who uses this stuff on here? I know it's all probably different dosing but this is from the darkweb a well reviewed seller saying it's "600x synthetic china white" if that's helpful?
 
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I don't know but it might be the same reply as for f and h. It depends on the purity, body weight, etc.
Try to see how it is compared with f and h in the literature.
 
fastFWD

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just mix it with water and you'll be good to go. i don't really put much weight in the claims many sellers make afa 95%/100x/etc. many of the same sellers are operating under multiple different vendor names so even trying different vendors you might just be buying from the same vendor sometimes. there are some gems tho. i tried to order china white before and didn't get what i had hoped for but hope you got the good stuff friend.
 
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Citric acid or crushed up vitamin C tablets help H dissolve into the water. You want to slowly add just enough to fully dissolve the powder. That is usually more important with tar, whereas powder usually dissolves a little better on its own (depending on how it is cut).

Step by step instructions for cooking and shooting:
1) Add H to "dish" that you can heat from below (a spoon or a test tube works well).
2) Draw up some CLEAN water (distilled or at least sealed bottled) with your syringe.
3) Add just enough water to your "dish" to cook your product. For a full G, you probably need atleast 6ml of water. You can add more while heating if necessary.
4) Add citric acid. #4 powdered H doesn't need any citric, #3 requires about 15% citric, and tar needs about 30% citric in order to dissolve (0.3g for every 1g of H). China white should be fairly clean, so your mileage may vary.
5) Heat your "dish" from below, with a soft-flame lighter held 2-4 inches under it. You want the water to barely start bubbling. If you are using a spoon, place the handle on the counter, bowl hanging over the edge, and place a book or something on the handle of the spoon. Now you can heat it one-handed.
6) When it looks mostly dissolved, give it a quick stir with the needle of the syringe. You can shoot a little more water in there if necessary. Dissolve as much as you can, but the water will likely stay a little cloudy from whatever they cut the powder with.
7) Pull a small piece of cotton off of a cotton ball, "fluff" it a bit (make sure it is loose and not a solid wad of cotton) and toss it in the soup.
8) Draw the soup up into an empty syringe (can be the same one you used for water and stirring), making sure you are drawing it through the cotton. This filters out small particles, which can damage your veins.
9) Hold the syringe with the needle facing up, flick it near the bottom of the syringe a couple times, and then push just enough to get a tiny drop of liquid to come out of the needle. This gets any air bubbles out.
10) Tourniquet above injection site, smack your arm a couple times to make veins easier locate, and wipe your injection site with an alcohol or iodine wipe. Infections and abscesses SUCK if you survive.
11) Enter the vein at a shallow angle (syringe should be roughly 30 degree angle from your arm), so that you don't accidentally go through. You can make sure that you are in the vein by pulling back a little on back of the syringe, which should easily draw up a little blood.
12) Push your dose, then remove the tourniquet. If using a syringe pump, you will have IV style tubing, and will need to remove the tourniquet right after inserting the needle and taping it in place.

You may need a higher than average volume of liquid for your setup, because the tubing on a pump would need to be flushed. Never used a pump myself, But I think a 10ml syringe is about right for a full G.
 
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Citric acid or crushed up vitamin C tablets help H dissolve into the water. You want to slowly add just enough to fully dissolve the powder. That is usually more important with tar, whereas powder usually dissolves a little better on its own (depending on how it is cut).

Step by step instructions for cooking and shooting:
1) Add H to "dish" that you can heat from below (a spoon or a test tube works well).
2) Draw up some CLEAN water (distilled or at least sealed bottled) with your syringe.
3) Add just enough water to your "dish" to cook your product. For a full G, you probably need atleast 6ml of water. You can add more while heating if necessary.
4) Add citric acid. #4 powdered H doesn't need any citric, #3 requires about 15% citric, and tar needs about 30% citric in order to dissolve (0.3g for every 1g of H). China white should be fairly clean, so your mileage may vary.
5) Heat your "dish" from below, with a soft-flame lighter held 2-4 inches under it. You want the water to barely start bubbling. If you are using a spoon, place the handle on the counter, bowl hanging over the edge, and place a book or something on the handle of the spoon. Now you can heat it one-handed.
6) When it looks mostly dissolved, give it a quick stir with the needle of the syringe. You can shoot a little more water in there if necessary. Dissolve as much as you can, but the water will likely stay a little cloudy from whatever they cut the powder with.
7) Pull a small piece of cotton off of a cotton ball, "fluff" it a bit (make sure it is loose and not a solid wad of cotton) and toss it in the soup.
8) Draw the soup up into an empty syringe (can be the same one you used for water and stirring), making sure you are drawing it through the cotton. This filters out small particles, which can damage your veins.
9) Hold the syringe with the needle facing up, flick it near the bottom of the syringe a couple times, and then push just enough to get a tiny drop of liquid to come out of the needle. This gets any air bubbles out.
10) Tourniquet above injection site, smack your arm a couple times to make veins easier locate, and wipe your injection site with an alcohol or iodine wipe. Infections and abscesses SUCK if you survive.
11) Enter the vein at a shallow angle (syringe should be roughly 30 degree angle from your arm), so that you don't accidentally go through. You can make sure that you are in the vein by pulling back a little on back of the syringe, which should easily draw up a little blood.
12) Push your dose, then remove the tourniquet. If using a syringe pump, you will have IV style tubing, and will need to remove the tourniquet right after inserting the needle and taping it in place.

You may need a higher than average volume of liquid for your setup, because the tubing on a pump would need to be flushed. Never used a pump myself, But I think a 10ml syringe is about right for a full G.
thank you so much for this <33
 
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Citric acid or crushed up vitamin C tablets help H dissolve into the water. You want to slowly add just enough to fully dissolve the powder. That is usually more important with tar, whereas powder usually dissolves a little better on its own (depending on how it is cut).

Step by step instructions for cooking and shooting:
1) Add H to "dish" that you can heat from below (a spoon or a test tube works well).
2) Draw up some CLEAN water (distilled or at least sealed bottled) with your syringe.
3) Add just enough water to your "dish" to cook your product. For a full G, you probably need atleast 6ml of water. You can add more while heating if necessary.
4) Add citric acid. #4 powdered H doesn't need any citric, #3 requires about 15% citric, and tar needs about 30% citric in order to dissolve (0.3g for every 1g of H). China white should be fairly clean, so your mileage may vary.
5) Heat your "dish" from below, with a soft-flame lighter held 2-4 inches under it. You want the water to barely start bubbling. If you are using a spoon, place the handle on the counter, bowl hanging over the edge, and place a book or something on the handle of the spoon. Now you can heat it one-handed.
6) When it looks mostly dissolved, give it a quick stir with the needle of the syringe. You can shoot a little more water in there if necessary. Dissolve as much as you can, but the water will likely stay a little cloudy from whatever they cut the powder with.
7) Pull a small piece of cotton off of a cotton ball, "fluff" it a bit (make sure it is loose and not a solid wad of cotton) and toss it in the soup.
8) Draw the soup up into an empty syringe (can be the same one you used for water and stirring), making sure you are drawing it through the cotton. This filters out small particles, which can damage your veins.
9) Hold the syringe with the needle facing up, flick it near the bottom of the syringe a couple times, and then push just enough to get a tiny drop of liquid to come out of the needle. This gets any air bubbles out.
10) Tourniquet above injection site, smack your arm a couple times to make veins easier locate, and wipe your injection site with an alcohol or iodine wipe. Infections and abscesses SUCK if you survive.
11) Enter the vein at a shallow angle (syringe should be roughly 30 degree angle from your arm), so that you don't accidentally go through. You can make sure that you are in the vein by pulling back a little on back of the syringe, which should easily draw up a little blood.
12) Push your dose, then remove the tourniquet. If using a syringe pump, you will have IV style tubing, and will need to remove the tourniquet right after inserting the needle and taping it in place.

You may need a higher than average volume of liquid for your setup, because the tubing on a pump would need to be flushed. Never used a pump myself, But I think a 10ml syringe is about right for a full G.
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Citric acid or crushed up vitamin C tablets help H dissolve into the water. You want to slowly add just enough to fully dissolve the powder. That is usually more important with tar, whereas powder usually dissolves a little better on its own (depending on how it is cut).

Step by step instructions for cooking and shooting:
1) Add H to "dish" that you can heat from below (a spoon or a test tube works well).
2) Draw up some CLEAN water (distilled or at least sealed bottled) with your syringe.
3) Add just enough water to your "dish" to cook your product. For a full G, you probably need atleast 6ml of water. You can add more while heating if necessary.
4) Add citric acid. #4 powdered H doesn't need any citric, #3 requires about 15% citric, and tar needs about 30% citric in order to dissolve (0.3g for every 1g of H). China white should be fairly clean, so your mileage may vary.
5) Heat your "dish" from below, with a soft-flame lighter held 2-4 inches under it. You want the water to barely start bubbling. If you are using a spoon, place the handle on the counter, bowl hanging over the edge, and place a book or something on the handle of the spoon. Now you can heat it one-handed.
6) When it looks mostly dissolved, give it a quick stir with the needle of the syringe. You can shoot a little more water in there if necessary. Dissolve as much as you can, but the water will likely stay a little cloudy from whatever they cut the powder with.
7) Pull a small piece of cotton off of a cotton ball, "fluff" it a bit (make sure it is loose and not a solid wad of cotton) and toss it in the soup.
8) Draw the soup up into an empty syringe (can be the same one you used for water and stirring), making sure you are drawing it through the cotton. This filters out small particles, which can damage your veins.
9) Hold the syringe with the needle facing up, flick it near the bottom of the syringe a couple times, and then push just enough to get a tiny drop of liquid to come out of the needle. This gets any air bubbles out.
10) Tourniquet above injection site, smack your arm a couple times to make veins easier locate, and wipe your injection site with an alcohol or iodine wipe. Infections and abscesses SUCK if you survive.
11) Enter the vein at a shallow angle (syringe should be roughly 30 degree angle from your arm), so that you don't accidentally go through. You can make sure that you are in the vein by pulling back a little on back of the syringe, which should easily draw up a little blood.
12) Push your dose, then remove the tourniquet. If using a syringe pump, you will have IV style tubing, and will need to remove the tourniquet right after inserting the needle and taping it in place.

You may need a higher than average volume of liquid for your setup, because the tubing on a pump would need to be flushed. Never used a pump myself, But I think a 10ml syringe is about right for a full G.
So the point of both the hearing and +/- addition of citric acid isn't for activation of the product only to aid in dissolving moreso? And if after mixing the white powder with water it dissolves on its own these steps aren't needed? Or is there potential with certain product variations of some chemicals and potency being negatively affected by being heated/burned off?
 
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LiesAndLigatures

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Nov 8, 2020
143
So the point of both the hearing and +/- addition of citric acid isn't for activation of the product only to aid in dissolving moreso? And if after mixing the white powder with water it dissolves on its own these steps aren't needed? Or is there potential with certain product variations of some chemicals and potency being negatively affected by being heated/burned off?
Correct, heating and citric acid are both just for aiding in dissolving the product. Almost a decade ago, the #4 Afghan H that I was using would dissolve in warm water with only a little stirring. If you actually cook the hit (aggressively boiling or any amount of smoke or steam coming off of the dish), you are just wasting product. H and F will both turn to liquid and start to vaporize at high heats (that is how you smoke foils), so make sure to only heat it enough to help the product dissolve.
 
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Citric acid or crushed up vitamin C tablets help H dissolve into the water. You want to slowly add just enough to fully dissolve the powder. That is usually more important with tar, whereas powder usually dissolves a little better on its own (depending on how it is cut).

Step by step instructions for cooking and shooting:
1) Add H to "dish" that you can heat from below (a spoon or a test tube works well).
2) Draw up some CLEAN water (distilled or at least sealed bottled) with your syringe.
3) Add just enough water to your "dish" to cook your product. For a full G, you probably need atleast 6ml of water. You can add more while heating if necessary.
4) Add citric acid. #4 powdered H doesn't need any citric, #3 requires about 15% citric, and tar needs about 30% citric in order to dissolve (0.3g for every 1g of H). China white should be fairly clean, so your mileage may vary.
5) Heat your "dish" from below, with a soft-flame lighter held 2-4 inches under it. You want the water to barely start bubbling. If you are using a spoon, place the handle on the counter, bowl hanging over the edge, and place a book or something on the handle of the spoon. Now you can heat it one-handed.
6) When it looks mostly dissolved, give it a quick stir with the needle of the syringe. You can shoot a little more water in there if necessary. Dissolve as much as you can, but the water will likely stay a little cloudy from whatever they cut the powder with.
7) Pull a small piece of cotton off of a cotton ball, "fluff" it a bit (make sure it is loose and not a solid wad of cotton) and toss it in the soup.
8) Draw the soup up into an empty syringe (can be the same one you used for water and stirring), making sure you are drawing it through the cotton. This filters out small particles, which can damage your veins.
9) Hold the syringe with the needle facing up, flick it near the bottom of the syringe a couple times, and then push just enough to get a tiny drop of liquid to come out of the needle. This gets any air bubbles out.
10) Tourniquet above injection site, smack your arm a couple times to make veins easier locate, and wipe your injection site with an alcohol or iodine wipe. Infections and abscesses SUCK if you survive.
11) Enter the vein at a shallow angle (syringe should be roughly 30 degree angle from your arm), so that you don't accidentally go through. You can make sure that you are in the vein by pulling back a little on back of the syringe, which should easily draw up a little blood.
12) Push your dose, then remove the tourniquet. If using a syringe pump, you will have IV style tubing, and will need to remove the tourniquet right after inserting the needle and taping it in place.

You may need a higher than average volume of liquid for your setup, because the tubing on a pump would need to be flushed. Never used a pump myself, But I think a 10ml syringe is about right for a full G.
How many ml do you think is possible to push without a syringe pump?
 
LiesAndLigatures

LiesAndLigatures

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How many ml do you think is possible to push without a syringe pump?
Really depends how it is cut (solubility in water can vary by a lot), but more than a lethal dose. A very tight tourniquet will let you push a much bigger dose than straight shooting, since it won't smack until you release the tourniquet. Most people stick to a 1-2ml syringe, since they are easy to find (insulin syringes work GREAT for getting high).

No idea how much you could manually push before you drop. Especially since, unlike real pharmaceuticals, it is impossible to know the purity or actual drug composition. "600x China White" could very well end up being mostly powdered RC benzos with some zines mixed in for the opioid high. Could be pure fentanyl. Or lactose powder with just a little bit of potent RC opioids. There are too many variables for a solid answer. But even a 1ml syringe can be filled with enough *pure* heroin for a >90% chance of death.
 

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