Method charcoal carbon monoxide poisoning questions

[drugfiend]

hi folks,

I am curious as to what brand/type of charcoal would be best to ensure the quickest amount of carbon monoxide release inside of an enclosed car. first, would an enclosed car work? and second, what kind of charcoal would work the best? and third, what type of ligher fluid and lighter should be used? I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't find much info on it, but I'm curious as to the type or brand of charcoal that would release a lot of carbon monoxide in an enclosed space. any contributions are very much appreciated. thank you.

 

[GodChallengesMe]

Any charcoal will do honestly. Pick a brand that is reputable to ensure there're no unnecessary additives and carbon content is up there with the international standards.

It's a matter of quantity though. I'd estimate that in around 9 cubic meters of volume 4-5 kg of charcoal is needed. More than that will produce too much heat that might become unbearable.

Ensure burning all the charcoal at the same time to avoid different CO production rates and ensure you burn them evenly. You move the burning coals when they're glowing red and emit little to no smoke. They'll be very hot and the enclosed room temperature gets elevated too quickly so be wary of that.

Once you bring the containers inside the room, you don't have to wait outside in order for CO to rise up first. You go inside immediately and just sit or lie down comfortably. You will get the dizziness gradually and become very sleepy. I'd suggest doing this when your natural sleeping cycle is kicking in. This will hasten the sleeping process a lot.

Unless somehow you wake up from this and not die, you won't even realize anything, not even the process of falling asleep, it's that silent. But, if you do wake up, expect intense headaches, vomiting, paralysis of the lower body, severe lack of energy even for simple movements, terrible vertigo, metallic sounds in the ear and hearing muffling, severe dehydration, chest tightness with a burning feeling, racing heart and the sense of impending doom.

On top of the symptoms mentioned above, there're also risks of severe, multiple organ damage syndrome, including the brain. Long term outcomes are very random if surviving that severe poisoning. Although, if you somehow wake up and not die, expect that the symptoms will subside eventually with oxygen treatment. The chance to wake up from severe poisoning is too low but still there. That's when things become too complicated and blurry in terms of long term outcomes of survival.

This is the most peaceful death one can imagine if doing everything correctly and you don't wake up. If you don't wake up, you won't feel anything, eons shall pass and your sensing will be zero. I woke up from 12 hours of deep sleep or induced coma it brought. Couldn't even comprehend how much time I was unconscious. It was momentary falling asleep and waking up from my perspective, although 12 hours have been passed in reality. That's how silent it is.

 

[drugfiend]

Any charcoal will do honestly. Pick a brand that is reputable to ensure there're no unnecessary additives and carbon content is up there with the international standards.

It's a matter of quantity though. I'd estimate that in around 9 cubic meters of volume 4-5 kg of charcoal is needed. More than that will produce too much heat that might become unbearable.

Ensure burning all the charcoal at the same time to avoid different CO production rates and ensure you burn them evenly. You move the burning coals when they're glowing red and emit little to no smoke. They'll be very hot and the enclosed room temperature gets elevated too quickly so be wary of that.

Once you bring the containers inside the room, you don't have to wait outside in order for CO to rise up first. You go inside immediately and just sit or lie down comfortably. You will get the dizziness gradually and become very sleepy. I'd suggest doing this when your natural sleeping cycle is kicking in. This will hasten the sleeping process a lot.

Unless somehow you wake up from this and not die, you won't even realize anything, not even the process of falling asleep, it's that silent. But, if you do wake up, expect intense headaches, vomiting, paralysis of the lower body, severe lack of energy even for simple movements, terrible vertigo, metallic sounds in the ear and hearing muffling, severe dehydration, chest tightness with a burning feeling, racing heart and the sense of impending doom.

On top of the symptoms mentioned above, there're also risks of severe, multiple organ damage syndrome, including the brain. Long term outcomes are very random if surviving that severe poisoning. Although, if you somehow wake up and not die, expect that the symptoms will subside eventually with oxygen treatment. The chance to wake up from severe poisoning is too low but still there. That's when things become too complicated and blurry in terms of long term outcomes of survival.

This is the most peaceful death one can imagine if doing everything correctly and you don't wake up. Unless you wake up, you won't feel anything, eons shall pass and your sensing will be zero. I woke up from 12 hours of deep sleep or induced coma it brought. Couldn't even comprehend how much time I was unconscious. It was momentary falling asleep and waking up from my perspective, although 12 hours have been passed in reality. That's how silent it is.

thank you. very informative. one last question. is a car enough to keep the carbon monoxide from escaping? say, an early 2010s model toyota corolla with the windows rolled up and the car off?
also, to make sure it's a controlled burn, would you need to make sure the charcoal is in a metal pan? I do not want to burn to death.

 

[GodChallengesMe]

thank you. very informative. one last question. is a car enough to keep the carbon monoxide from escaping? say, an early 2010s model toyota corolla with the windows rolled up and the car off?
also, to make sure it's a controlled burn, would you need to make sure the charcoal is in a metal pan? I do not want to burn to death.

Never owned a car so I can't say anything about it.

Metal containers is the way to go in the bathroom where there's a concrete floor that can't be burned. IDK how to manage that in the car though. From what I've heard, they use bricks and a pan with water to avoid burning. I wouldn't do this in a car for this particular reason, it's too dangerous and unpredictable, you might burn alive or post mortem.

If you somehow can do this in a small bathroom, it would be more safer. By the time someone comes to check your welfare, the CO production will be closer to 0 and the remaining CO in the bathroom will go away momentarily when they open the door. Of course you should put the notice on the door that says there's a CO source inside in order for them to ventilate the home first before opening the door.

 

[drugfiend]

Never owned a car so I can't say anything about it.

Metal containers is the way to go in the bathroom where there's a concrete floor that can't be burned. IDK how to manage that in the car though. From what I've heard, they use bricks and a pan with water to avoid burning. I wouldn't do this in a car for this particular reason, it's too dangerous and unpredictable, you might burn alive or post mortem.

If you somehow can do this in a small bathroom, it would be more safer. By the time someone comes to check your welfare, the CO production will be closer to 0 and the remaining CO in the bathroom will go away momentarily when they open the door. Of course you should put the notice on the door that says there's a CO source inside in order for them to ventilate the home first before opening the door.

this is just impossible for me. I have 6 roommates so I'm never alone, and I don't want any of them to get hurt in the process. my car would be the ideal location and I know of a place where I would not be found. I have enough benzos to put me asleep and keep me asleep, but only enough for one attempt. if it fails, I'm fucked. though I am pretty much set on this method. why do I always hear about people dying from CO poisoning on accident, yet when I read threads about it on here, there are so many failures? I need this method to work. sure, I can obtain a shotgun, and shoot myself in my car, but holy shit I don't want to die that way. that is a last resort personally. I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing. I have the charcoal necessary, benzos and booze to put me to sleep, and a metal bucket to keep the car from burning (hopefully). I really need to figure out why all these other attempts failed.

 

[kurgan]

this is just impossible for me. I have 6 roommates so I'm never alone, and I don't want any of them to get hurt in the process. my car would be the ideal location and I know of a place where I would not be found. I have enough benzos to put me asleep and keep me asleep, but only enough for one attempt. if it fails, I'm fucked. though I am pretty much set on this method. why do I always hear about people dying from CO poisoning on accident, yet when I read threads about it on here, there are so many failures? I need this method to work. sure, I can obtain a shotgun, and shoot myself in my car, but holy shit I don't want to die that way. that is a last resort personally. I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing. I have the charcoal necessary, benzos and booze to put me to sleep, and a metal bucket to keep the car from burning (hopefully). I really need to figure out why all these other attempts failed.

Have you gone through the the whole CO megathread?

 

[drugfiend]

Have you gone through the the whole CO megathread?

I have. charcoal seems to be my best option on my budget. I unfortunately don't have enough for a high quality carbon monoxide detector, though. so it seems like I'm just going to be hoping for the highest concentration of CO without actually knowing how much will be inside of my car. some of the failed attempts sounded downright miserable, but I still need to try. I'm not afraid of death, but I sure am afraid of living with those awful side effects. I'm hoping all goes well.

 

[kurgan]

I have. charcoal seems to be my best option on my budget. I unfortunately don't have enough for a high quality carbon monoxide detector, though. so it seems like I'm just going to be hoping for the highest concentration of CO without actually knowing how much will be inside of my car. some of the failed attempts sounded downright miserable, but I still need to try. I'm not afraid of death, but I sure am afraid of living with those awful side effects. I'm hoping all goes well.

Did you see the chap who tested in his car and got concentration to near 10,000ppm?

 

[Live_Life55]

Any charcoal will do honestly. Pick a brand that is reputable to ensure there're no unnecessary additives and carbon content is up there with the international standards.

It's a matter of quantity though. I'd estimate that in around 9 cubic meters of volume 4-5 kg of charcoal is needed. More than that will produce too much heat that might become unbearable.

Ensure burning all the charcoal at the same time to avoid different CO production rates and ensure you burn them evenly. You move the burning coals when they're glowing red and emit little to no smoke. They'll be very hot and the enclosed room temperature gets elevated too quickly so be wary of that.

Once you bring the containers inside the room, you don't have to wait outside in order for CO to rise up first. You go inside immediately and just sit or lie down comfortably. You will get the dizziness gradually and become very sleepy. I'd suggest doing this when your natural sleeping cycle is kicking in. This will hasten the sleeping process a lot.

Unless somehow you wake up from this and not die, you won't even realize anything, not even the process of falling asleep, it's that silent. But, if you do wake up, expect intense headaches, vomiting, paralysis of the lower body, severe lack of energy even for simple movements, terrible vertigo, metallic sounds in the ear and hearing muffling, severe dehydration, chest tightness with a burning feeling, racing heart and the sense of impending doom.

On top of the symptoms mentioned above, there're also risks of severe, multiple organ damage syndrome, including the brain. Long term outcomes are very random if surviving that severe poisoning. Although, if you somehow wake up and not die, expect that the symptoms will subside eventually with oxygen treatment. The chance to wake up from severe poisoning is too low but still there. That's when things become too complicated and blurry in terms of long term outcomes of survival.

This is the most peaceful death one can imagine if doing everything correctly and you don't wake up. If you don't wake up, you won't feel anything, eons shall pass and your sensing will be zero. I woke up from 12 hours of deep sleep or induced coma it brought. Couldn't even comprehend how much time I was unconscious. It was momentary falling asleep and waking up from my perspective, although 12 hours have been passed in reality. That's how silent it is.

Is there no way to do this awake? I have severe insomnia and benzo paradoxical reactions so can't take them anymore.


Did you said you tried this and woke up in coma?

 

[GodChallengesMe]

Is there no way to do this awake? I have severe insomnia and benzo paradoxical reactions so can't take them anymore.


Did you said you tried this and woke up in coma?

You should do this awake, with alert mind, not when you're drunk or heavily sedated with drugs. Alertness is needed not to mess up something during preparation.

No, I didn't wake up in coma, you don't wake up in coma in general. I was put asleep by the gas but didn't die and woke up after 12 hours.

Regarding insomnia, CO will knock you out no matter your insomnia level. It chemically suffocates your brain and depresses its activity. It might take a bit longer but in the end, if there's enough CO, you will drift off into deep sleep and then die. Well, you should die as it's a highly lethal gas with many accidental deaths reported around the world, especially in the winter time period.

 

[Live_Life55]

You should do this awake, with alert mind, not when you're drunk or heavily sedated with drugs. Alertness is needed not to mess up something during preparation.

No, I didn't wake up in coma, you don't wake up in coma in general. I was put asleep by the gas but didn't die and woke up after 12 hours.

Regarding insomnia, CO will knock you out no matter your insomnia level. It chemically suffocates your brain and depresses its activity. It might take a bit longer but in the end, if there's enough CO, you will drift off into deep sleep and then die. Well, you should die as it's a highly lethal gas with many accidental deaths reported around the world, especially in the winter time period

Why did you wake up 12 hours later? Did it not work?

I'm saying I will want to do the whole process sober IF I did it. You said I could panic and feel a sense of doom? How long will that go for.

 

[BradGuy123]

Once you bring the containers inside the room, you don't have to wait outside in order for CO to rise up first. You go inside immediately and just sit or lie down comfortably. You will get the dizziness gradually and become very sleepy. I'd suggest doing this when your natural sleeping cycle is kicking in. This will hasten the sleeping process a lot.

1. Do you have to wait for the smoke to die down? I saw somewhere that if you right in you'd start coughing.
2. Is there a risk of fire? If someone doesn't live in a single family home a fire could endanger others.

 

[GodChallengesMe]

Why did you wake up 12 hours later? Did it not work?

I'm saying I will want to do the whole process sober IF I did it. You said I could panic and feel a sense of doom? How long will that go for.

Yes, apparently, it failed or quantum suicide is real. IDK what happened, but I woke up with intense CO poisoning symptoms after 12 hours of being dead. I say being dead because I was completely senseless before being woken up. It was oblivion but not eternal.

I do recommend that you keep yourself sober up until you bring the containers with smoldering coals inside the prepared room and lock yourself up. Then, when you sit comfortably there, you can smoke and drink moderately to relax. CO buildup will do its job and make you dizzy so you won't be waiting too long for sleep to come. The moment you fall asleep that's it. You shouldn't wake up if the room holds the CO well and nobody comes to save you.

Honestly, I don't know what to believe anymore. While it's true that you can never experience death, there might not be eternal oblivion and you might wake up momentarily and never find nonexistence, which, ironically, you can never experience to begin with.

I hope we get liberated at last and find ourselves in completely different realities, where we're not given suffering by default and where we can build ourselves from scratch, mentally and physically, both. It's insane if there's no reset of this all and we end up continuing in the same circumstances after each death event. Quantum suicide is fundamentally flawed in that regard. There should be a reset, aka rebirth.

Sorry for my metaphysical ramblings but I'm really that confused and question the death itself if it's real or not.

1. Do you have to wait for the smoke to die down? I saw somewhere that if you right in you'd start coughing.
2. Is there a risk of fire? If someone doesn't live in a single family home a fire could endanger others.

Yes, you should wait for the smoke to die down almost completely before bringing the coals inside the enclosed room.

There's a risk of fire if you place the container with smoldering coals on a carpet for example. You should only place it unprotected on a concrete floor inside the bathroom. Otherwise, you have to use a large pot with water inside as a stand in order to avoid burning the floor.

 

[Live_Life55]

Yes, apparently, it failed or quantum suicide is real. IDK what happened, but I woke up with intense CO poisoning symptoms after 12 hours of being dead. I say being dead because I was completely senseless before being woken up. It was oblivion but not eternal.

I do recommend that you keep yourself sober up until you bring the containers with smoldering coals inside the prepared room and lock yourself up. Then, when you sit comfortably there, you can smoke and drink moderately to relax. CO buildup will do its job and make you dizzy so you won't be waiting too long for sleep to come. The moment you fall asleep that's it. You shouldn't wake up if the room holds the CO well and nobody comes to save you.

Honestly, I don't know what to believe anymore. While it's true that you can never experience death, there might not be eternal oblivion and you might wake up momentarily and never find nonexistence, which, ironically, you can never experience to begin with.

I hope we get liberated at last and find ourselves in completely different realities, where we're not given suffering by default and where we can build ourselves from scratch, mentally and physically, both. It's insane if there's no reset of this all and we end up continuing in the same circumstances after each death event. Quantum suicide is fundamentally flawed in that regard. There should be a reset, aka rebirth.

Sorry for my metaphysical ramblings but I'm really that confused and question the death itself if it's real or not.

Yes, you should wait for the smoke to die down almost completely before bringing the coals inside the enclosed room.

There's a risk of fire if you place the container with smoldering coals on a carpet for example. You should only place it unprotected on a concrete floor inside the bathroom. Otherwise, you have to use a large pot with water inside as a stand in order to avoid burning the floor.

Don't believe in the quantum immortality. Using a gun would change your mind. But you wouldn't be aware of it.

 

[GodChallengesMe]

Don't believe in the quantum immortality. Using a gun would change your mind. But you wouldn't be aware of it.

I bet something will happen when you pull the trigger rather than nothing.

 

[Live_Life55]

I bet something will happen when you pull the trigger rather than nothing.

Instant void. Worst case scenario you are a vegetable in the hospital. Then I guess quantum immortality exists in a cruel way

 

[GodChallengesMe]

Instant void. Worst case scenario you are a vegetable in the hospital. Then I guess quantum immortality exists in a cruel way

Void can't be experienced so no matter if there's instant void or not, you will simply skip that part entirely like I skipped the total unconsciousness of 12 hours and woke up momentarily from my point of view. I was lying there for 12 hours objectively, if there was someone in the home they would verify the length of time I was knocked out but from my POV, that time was skipped entirely. I see death like that. You pull the trigger, blow your brain out and electricity goes off, you won't even hear the sound of shooting, let alone feel the bullet in your head. From your POV, you will skip the void instantaneously. I can't tell what might happen next but I guess you will simply continue feeling the existence of inner self or awareness of some sort. The awareness of being in general.

One of the notorious figures in theoretical physics was asked what does he believe happens after death and he answered that something always happens. What he meant is that existence is always there and physical processes are always running, maybe in endless cycles of inflation and deflation of the universes.

I do agree with him that there's no such thing as nothingness because there is always something rather than nothing. If it was otherwise, we wouldn't be here to ask these questions in the first place.

Just think about it.