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woxihuanni

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I am happy that she is alive.Stop saying she is a troll.Its really disrespectful to a person who has gone through hell.People come here for support not for your skepticism.If you doubt her , just scroll down to other posts there are plenty out there.

Is this a reply to me in misunderstanding? Because I am saying the same thing as you are.
 
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epic

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I wast replying to you. I agree with you 100%:hug:
 
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PaYo

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so she failed. Kaczuszko, czekamy na jakies informacje.
1Jak sie czulas po tabletkach?
2 Czy ktos cie znalazl?
3 Trafilas do szpitala?
4 Grozi ci wariatkowo?
5 Jak sie czujesz?
 
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Time is irrelevant

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Realistically shouldn't this thread be closed now? where are the mods? Close the thread and let the girl rest from her ordeal instead of everyone chatting about her! If/when she is ready she will contact those who mean somthing to her.

Just my thoughts.
 
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bea1974

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I see that you did not manage to catch your bus despite all your efforts. I hope this has not made your life even worse, as it sometimes can. I am thinking of you, and wish you all the best.
 
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bluesky1972-2019

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Happy if she is still with us. Be nice to know what happened. I wish her well whatever the answer is.
 
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She is in A&E and I don't know if she will even want to say what's going on or just let the accusations be and be pushed over the edge even further as a result. I don't know what people think they are doing blaming someone for failing a suicide attempt. It's sickening.
For real. This forum is great but so many people jump at every chance they get to accuse others of trolling and it's pretty ridiculous. Especially in this case because it's not like this was Natalia's only post, in which case it might be understandable. But she's one of those members who posted a lot of really personal stuff and interacted with many members on a personal level. But if you got to know her and are unwilling to entertain the notion that she made a goodbye thread for attention you're naive?

I get that due to the nature of this forum and its demographic there are bound to be disingenuous posts once in a while but is it really necessary to disbelieve everyone and everything to the point where an oddly worded question/remark warrants an immediate accusation of trolling?
 
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oopswronglife

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Is there a reason people keep posting her actual name here? Seems like a massive privacy violation that can hurt her just to feel more personalized. I think mods should remove all references to her true given name personally. Even if she said it in public somewhere I missed that's not something one does when they are in the right state of mind and she should be protected with regard to PII.

Also let this be a lesson, again as it never seems to be learned through years and years of such forums, that both public "play by play" ctb and the ensuing drama isn't good for anyone. If one wants to not be alone it should be done in private chats or messages.
 
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She was online after 12 hours she said "goodbye" right?
 
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Only one person knows the truth so we are all speculating. For me personally I am massively conflicted on this subject as the whole event hit me hard emotionally and I am to this moment still dealing with it and can't personally make up my mind.

Is there a reason people keep posting her actual name here? Seems like a massive privacy violation that can hurt her just to feel more personalized. I think mods should remove all references to her true given name personally.

That is completely true, some people have sent me screenshots of her social media accounts (not for my stalking purposes) but they guessed I was pretty messed up by the whole event' and Natalie is not her real name so we can rest easy.

Also let this be a lesson, again as it never seems to be learned through years and years of such forums, that both public "play by play" ctb and the ensuing drama isn't good for anyone. If one wants to not be alone it should be done in private chats or messages

Again I am in conflict with do I agree or disagree. The amount of questions on the forum regarding 'Is it painless?', 'Does it work?' and a whole raft of others means that people are invested and want to know, its one of the reasons why we are here. SN is going to be my method so I can only speak on my behalf that I viewed it as an important source of information on the method as well as being with a virtual friend as she took her last steps. I will probably do the same with creating a goodbye thread primarily because I am going to do it alone, I want to be alone but as the same time I would love to have the human contact so the loneliness isn't there. I would also hopes that it serves as a useful piece of information to others, like what @Funkygibbon did as I found his thread both moving and informative.
 
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Only one person knows the truth so we are all speculating. For me personally I am massively conflicted on this subject as the whole event hit me hard emotionally and I am to this moment still dealing with it and can't personally make up my mind.



That is completely true, some people have sent me screenshots of her social media accounts (not for my stalking purposes) but they guessed I was pretty messed up by the whole event' and Natalie is not her real name so we can rest easy.



Again I am in conflict with do I agree or disagree. The amount of questions on the forum regarding 'Is it painless?', 'Does it work?' and a whole raft of others means that people are invested and want to know, its one of the reasons why we are here. SN is going to be my method so I can only speak on my behalf that I viewed it as an important source of information on the method as well as being with a virtual friend as she took her last steps. I will probably do the same with creating a goodbye thread primarily because I am going to do it alone, I want to be alone but as the same time I would love to have the human contact so the loneliness isn't there. I would also hopes that it serves as a useful piece of information to others, like what @Funkygibbon did as I found his thread both moving and informative.
Where can I pick up the @Funkygibbon thread?
 
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Stan

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Where can I pick up the @Funkygibbon thread?

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-almost-died.20817/
Realistically shouldn't this thread be closed now? where are the mods? Close the thread and let the girl rest from her ordeal instead of everyone chatting about her! If/when she is ready she will contact those who mean somthing to her.

Just my thoughts.
Completely agree
 
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Sending my prayers. Its okay to be scared. Please have a safe trip.
 
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bea1974

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I used the name she had given earlier in this thread. I've edited/removed that from my post now. Thanks for flagging that up, @oopswronglife, you are right about that of course.

I don't agree with your second paragraph, though, for the record.
She was online after 12 hours she said "goodbye" right?

Yes, from the hospital apparently. It seems she did not succeed in catching her bus this time.
 
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oopswronglife

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I don't agree with your second paragraph, though, for the record.

Nothing good comes from having it etched in a public forum. I have seen this happen repeatedly. It's drama porn some people claim is "instructional" but the same exact responses, emotions, drama, and outcomes happen each time. You also have it there for family and loved ones to see in the open and I find that cruel.
 
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wendydong1

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How did this thread from kum ba ya to so much drama...
 
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If someone is found dead in the UK sure there'd be some sort of press coverage. Dead bodies don't just turn up unless it is totally natural, then there would not be any press interest. Specially the local press. So I assume she is alive.
 
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oopswronglife

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How did this thread from kum ba ya to so much drama...

As I mentioned it happens over and over in forums like this. The long dramatic live posting of the attempt...the drama and emotions and discussion of loss....the wondering if they are gone, inaccurate rumors and wrong obituaries etc posted, and quite often the discovery they are not gone...sometimes failed..sometimes aborted...sometimes it was fake...more and more drama. Then families or loved ones show up after the death. People say what I am saying and suggest it be not allowed or kept to chat or PM and off the main boards. But the lesson is never learned.
 
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If someone is found dead in the UK sure there'd be some sort of press coverage. Dead bodies don't just turn up unless it is totally natural, then there would not be any press interest. Specially the local press. So I assume she is alive.
I live in North Devon so yes it would be headline news here as nothing ever happens!
 
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If someone is found dead in the UK sure there'd be some sort of press coverage. Dead bodies don't just turn up unless it is totally natural, then there would not be any press interest. Specially the local press. So I assume she is alive.
Kind of depends whether you live in a city, town or village. Bigger the place, less likely to report unless there is a particular story about it. And what I mean buy that, its a story that grabs attention or sells papers
 
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Well, yeah, you are right about this but the local press snatches any story to get some sort of attention. However, suicides are mostly kept quiet. However, if someone dies, word goes around.
 
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bluesky1972-2019

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Well, yeah, you are right about this but the local press snatches any story to get some sort of attention. However, suicides are mostly kept quiet. However, if someone dies, word goes around.
They don't like to publish articles on suicide. As unless there is a definite intention known or suicide note, the coroner has to deliver an open verdict.
 
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Stan

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It's drama porn some people claim is "instructional" but the same exact responses, emotions, drama, and outcomes happen each time.
I am really uncomfortable with those choice of words especially in light of what I wrote
 
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oopswronglife

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Jun 27, 2019
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I am really uncomfortable with those choice of words especially in light of what I wrote

I am sorry you feel that way. My opinion has been formed by seeing this scenario play out the same way with the same outcomes and same drama dozens of times over many years and forums. I am going to stop now as to not feed that drama...but my two pence officially is public CTB should not be allowed on forums. Any companionship and information to be relayed can be done in private channels with no loss of benefit.
 
Stan

Stan

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I am sorry you feel that way. My opinion has been formed by seeing this scenario play out the same way with the same outcomes and same drama dozens of times over many years and forums.
And that is fine, its your opinion. I have no right to say its right or wrong because it's your opinion, all I can do is respect it regardless of whether I agree with it or not. But its possible that you have made people feel like ghouls or having some form of fetish by being here, because to be honest, that's how you just made me feel and its not a great feeling. That is my opinion. This is my first time in any such forum so I do not have the same experiences as you and its been barely two weeks here for me. I have appreciated the fact you have said you are not continuing the conversation so we will leave it at that.
 
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bea1974

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I am sorry you feel that way. My opinion has been formed by seeing this scenario play out the same way with the same outcomes and same drama dozens of times over many years and forums. I am going to stop now as to not feed that drama...but my two pence officially is public CTB should not be allowed on forums. Any companionship and information to be relayed can be done in private channels with no loss of benefit.

Even if I agreed with you, I would still not think that this thread is an appropriate place to raise this issue/say these things.
 
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Even if I agreed with you, I would still not think that this thread is an appropriate place to raise this issue/say these things.
Agree, has gone a bit off-topic anyway. Be friendly to each other and stop this argument.
 
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oopswronglife

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Even if I agreed with you, I would still not think that this thread is an appropriate place to raise this issue/say these things.

I find that admonishment odd after all the other drama that's taken place. I think it's the perfect place as its extremely relevant and another time to learn this lesson. I have also repeatedly called for protection of her privacy which goes unworried about mostly. This entire thread is a mess and its not becaue of pointing that out. The thing about "arguing" is people claim it's the "other" doing it whilst continuing to stoke themselves and get THEIR opinion in.
 
GreyMonkey

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Aug 20, 2019
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The thing about "arguing" is people claim it's the "other" doing it whilst continuing to stoke themselves and get THEIR opinion in.

Uhuh...

I wonder if you are able to see your part in the drama from up there on that high horse?
 
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No one will ever know if some did a goodbye thread and decided not to go through with it and just left SS for their own well-being. People will assume you did actually commit suicide. I personally don't agree with the goodbye threads if when I go I'll just go. I certainly don't want someone high fiving me when I'm about to go.
 
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