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Somebodylied

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how do some people use carbon monoxide from there car to ctb?considering cars have catalytic converters, which pretty much gets rid of all the CO.
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Cats dont do that though. In an enclosed space it will absolutely build up.
 
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LADY007

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Someone please clear up this carbon monoxide from a car question. I have read about people passing this way just 2 years ago and they all could not have had very old cars without converters. Can a person still use this method with newer cars????
Cats dont do that though. In an enclosed space it will absolutely build up.


NextBusLeaving...Are you sure..regarding below question???
Someone please clear up this carbon monoxide from a car question. I have read about people passing this way just 2 years ago and they all could not have had very old cars without converters. Can a person still use this method with newer cars????
 
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NextBusLeaving

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They reduce emissions but given a long enough time they will build up. Combustion is combustion. Air goes in, gets burned, CO, NO, and other gases come out. That is my understanding.
 
ReallySillyOtter

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Cats dont do that though...

Cats, like most living things, do indeed produce traces of carbon monoxide as part of their normal metabolism. However I don't feel this would be an effective way to CTB.

Given, say, an average bathroom of 400 cubic feet, and an average feline size of 8 pounds, I calculate you'll need 1,249.35 cats to reach the CTB CO threshold of 8,000 ppm. It would be exceeding difficult to acquire so many cats, to say nothing of herding them into the bathroom and preventing fighting, mating, etc.

While CTBing via cat-produced carbon monoxide is theoretically possible, I believe you'll find much more realiable, peaceful methods in our resource section.

(I know @NextBusLeaving made a typo, but I couldn't resist running with a joke.)
 
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LADY007

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They reduce emissions but given a long enough time they will build up. Combustion is combustion. Air goes in, gets burned, CO, NO, and other gases come out. That is my understanding.
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Werewolf

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May 12, 2020
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They don't magically remove combustion gases, as the name suggest they convert them via oxidation and reduction to other, less harmful molecules, H2O for example.
This process is ofcourse not 100% efficient and almost 0% efficient when the converter is cold.
So yes it's definitely possible to ctb with a modern car, preferably with a cold engine. I wouldn't recommend a diesel though.
 
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LADY007

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Feb 25, 2020
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They don't magically remove combustion gases, as the name suggest they convert them via oxidation and reduction to other, less harmful molecules, H2O for example.
This process is ofcourse not 100% efficient and almost 0% efficient when the converter is cold.
So yes it's definitely possible to ctb with a modern car, preferably with a cold engine. I wouldn't recommend a diesel though.
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LetMeSleep4Ever

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Oct 12, 2019
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When I tried mine years ago, I put a water hose from the exhaust pipe going inside through the car window. The pipe melted. I heard though that in very heavy snow conditions you can die from it. Is there something you can place in the exhaust pipe to block it and divert it to go inside the car? Something that will not burn or melt.
 
Werewolf

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May 12, 2020
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When I tried mine years ago, I put a water hose from the exhaust pipe going inside through the car window. The pipe melted. I heard though that in very heavy snow conditions you can die from it. Is there something you can place in the exhaust pipe to block it and divert it to go inside the car? Something that will not burn or melt.

You can't really block the exhaust in that way. What happens is the snow builds up around and between the bottom of the car and the ground creating a seal as so the exhaust gases gets trapped and enters the car.
Fairly common in areas with a lot of snow. Most car manufacturers even state in the owners manual to remove all snow before starting the car in winter conditions.

However car exhausts contain a lot more nasty stuff than just CO and I'd imagine breathing it would become unbearable long before CO levels become fatal.
 
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LetMeSleep4Ever

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Oct 12, 2019
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oh I meant the water hose melted, not the pipe. I tried to put the water hose back but it was damaged and just kept slipping.
 
Lastsauce

Lastsauce

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Dec 22, 2019
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I heard though that in very heavy snow conditions you can die from it.
What happens is the snow builds up around and between the bottom of the car and the ground creating a seal as so the exhaust gases gets trapped and enters the car.
Freezing cold engine produces lots of CO and catalytic converter also needs to be very hot before it begins to oxidize CO to CO2.
People leave all the time their snowed in cars idling to heat the cabin while they clear the snow and get CO poisoning.
 
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LetMeSleep4Ever

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You can't really block the exhaust in that way. What happens is the snow builds up around and between the bottom of the car and the ground creating a seal as so the exhaust gases gets trapped and enters the car.
Fairly common in areas with a lot of snow. Most car manufacturers even state in the owners manual to remove all snow before starting the car in winter conditions.

However car exhausts contain a lot more nasty stuff than just CO and I'd imagine breathing it would become unbearable long before CO levels become fatal.
The news doesn't really get into the detail but I believed it worked for Conrad Roy, but his girlfriend, Michelle Carter talked him into it. Conrad did express a wish to get out of the car, but then she told him to stay in the car is how I understand it. And that's how she got into trouble.
 
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Hurt

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The news doesn't really get into the detail but I believed it worked for Conrad Roy, but his girlfriend, Michelle Carter talked him into it. Conrad did express a wish to get out of the car, but then she told him to stay in the car is how I understand it. And that's how she got into trouble.

I remember this case. That girl is so sick.
 
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LetMeSleep4Ever

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Oct 12, 2019
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I remember this case. That girl is so sick.
I disagree. She didn't do it for a sick pleasure. Her boyfriend has multiple times talked of suicide to her and asked her to help him.
 
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LetMeSleep4Ever

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Oct 12, 2019
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Yeah one little mistake on her part. And if I remember correctly she often told him to not suicide when he did feel suicidal. All those times already took an emotional toll on her.
 
yeh it's all gucci

yeh it's all gucci

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Cats, like most living things, do indeed produce traces of carbon monoxide as part of their normal metabolism. However I don't feel this would be an effective way to CTB.

Given, say, an average bathroom of 400 cubic feet, and an average feline size of 8 pounds, I calculate you'll need 1,249.35 cats to reach the CTB CO threshold of 8,000 ppm. It would be exceeding difficult to acquire so many cats, to say nothing of herding them into the bathroom and preventing fighting, mating, etc.

While CTBing via cat-produced carbon monoxide is theoretically possible, I believe you'll find much more realiable, peaceful methods in our resource section.

(I know @NextBusLeaving made a typo, but I couldn't resist running with a joke.)
I laughed way too much at this 😄 the visual of someone in a small bathroom with over 1200 cats is sending me.
 
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